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Section 8 Housing video
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Mr Gray Aug 23 2013, 08:13 AM Post #31
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everyone should transition from section 8 to non section 8. they'll never have a bad tenant. if they have any doubts, this video (and the commentary in it) definitely proves that all gov't assisted housing leads to insane amounts of property damage.

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Are you denying that government assisted housing gets trashed and destroyed more often than non government housing?
Right next to my office is the local code enforcement office. I'd say that actual numbers wise, at least in our city, there's no distinct difference.

I'd love to see your percentages though...

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can't believe I missed this....Wow wow wow.....you are claiming that government housing tenants treat their residence with the same care as non government housing residents? You've said some crazy things, but if this is your claim I think it takes the cake!
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again, i'd love to see some facts on this one. I just don't see a big difference where I'm from. We're about to have the show horders come to town for a home owner that's on the verge of losing everything.

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again, i'd love to see some facts on this one. I just don't see a big difference where I'm from. We're about to have the show horders come to town for a home owner that's on the verge of losing everything.

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you need to branch out from your hippy oasis then brian...you seem to be missing large parts of reality
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i've lived in 6 states over the last 13 years on all corners of the nation. yes, there are section 8 ghettos, but there are also very run-down and unmaintained houses occupied by their owners.

I'd love to see some firm numbers.
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i've lived in 6 states over the last 13 years on all corners of the nation. yes, there are section 8 ghettos, but there are also very run-down and unmaintained houses occupied by their owners.

I'd love to see some firm numbers.
I don't know of any surveys, but perhaps you should go talk to a property manager who manages both types of properties. I don't expect you to actually do that because it may blow your fanciful perspective, but I ensure you that if you did, we would be on the same page.
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i've lived in 6 states over the last 13 years on all corners of the nation. yes, there are section 8 ghettos, but there are also very run-down and unmaintained houses occupied by their owners.

I'd love to see some firm numbers.
I don't know of any surveys, but perhaps you should go talk to a property manager who manages both types of properties. I don't expect you to actually do that because it may blow your fanciful perspective, but I ensure you that if you did, we would be on the same page.
My job makes me well acquainted with many building owners in our community that have tenants from all ends of the spectrum.

It sounds more like you might benefit from a conversation with these types of folks...or better yet, stop making assumptions without any evidence to back it up. That's called stereotyping.

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Brian he doesn't make assumptions
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Brian he doesn't make assumptions
Totally forgot. Sorry.
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i've lived in 6 states over the last 13 years on all corners of the nation. yes, there are section 8 ghettos, but there are also very run-down and unmaintained houses occupied by their owners.

I'd love to see some firm numbers.
I don't know of any surveys, but perhaps you should go talk to a property manager who manages both types of properties. I don't expect you to actually do that because it may blow your fanciful perspective, but I ensure you that if you did, we would be on the same page.
My job makes me well acquainted with many building owners in our community that have tenants from all ends of the spectrum.

It sounds more like you might benefit from a conversation with these types of folks...or better yet, stop making assumptions without any evidence to back it up. That's called stereotyping.

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LOL....I have talked to hundreds of them throughout the country myself, and indirectly (via a company that provides a service to them) thousands of them, and you consistently hear the same thing. That's not stereotyping at all. Why do you think landlords avoid section 8 when possible? It's not a discounted rent, and it's virtually guaranteed and on time every month? The same cannot be said for standard tenants, yet they are nearly always preferred to section 8.
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when you make an assertion, you need to back it up. When the video narrator walks around saying "this is what the government is doing to us" or whatever, it's ridiculous and completely stereotyping.

The reality is, any building owner worth a shit constantly checks on their properties to ensure they are being maintained. Poor tenants reside in all walks of life. The video guy really doesn't understand the concept of protecting his assets. The neglect to his building didn't happen over night.

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when you make an assertion, you need to back it up. When the video narrator walks around saying "this is what the government is doing to us" or whatever, it's ridiculous and completely stereotyping.

The reality is, any building owner worth a shit constantly checks on their properties to ensure they are being maintained. Poor tenants reside in all walks of life. The video guy really doesn't understand the concept of protecting his assets. The neglect to his building didn't happen over night.

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I'm not the video guy, and you didn't answer my question.
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I don't believe landlords avoid section 8 when possible because there's never a shortage of section 8 housing. Market trends would dictate a good business plan, in my opinion.

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You may know an exception to the rule, but so do i.

In reality, properties getting messed up (especially to that extent) is on the owner/property manager. They need to protect their assets a little better than that.

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I don't believe landlords avoid section 8 when possible because there's never a shortage of section 8 housing. Market trends would dictate a good business plan, in my opinion.

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hmm, so you think that if a landlord had to choose between standard vs section 8 tenants, that particular status would be irrelevant? If so I obviously disagree based on literally hundreds of landlords that I personally deal with all the time, but maybe they are all just bigots who hate the poor?
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I don't believe landlords avoid section 8 when possible because there's never a shortage of section 8 housing. Market trends would dictate a good business plan, in my opinion.

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hmm, so you think that if a landlord had to choose between standard vs section 8 tenants, that particular status would be irrelevant? If so I obviously disagree based on literally hundreds of landlords that I personally deal with all the time, but maybe they are all just bigots who hate the poor?
Did I wake up and all section 8 housing disappeared over night? There are hundreds of thousands of section 8 units in this country. maybe like 1 or 2 landlords own all of them...

Using logic, I'd guess that most landlords choose non-section 8 housing because the majority of tenants aren't section 8 tenants.

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