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Section 8 Housing video
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sirbrianwilson Aug 23 2013, 12:11 PM Post #61
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if it was extremely common knowledge, it shouldn't be hard to produce some sort of statistical research that shows section-8 tenants abuse property more than non section-8.

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well, that's a completely false statement...the reason that there is no statistical research available is precisely because it is common knowledge...statistical research is unnecessary and thus not beneficial.
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Funny gifs, Brian, but it doesn't change the fact that you are 100% wrong here.
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Mr Gray Aug 23 2013, 12:17 PM Post #63
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cool gifs brian....I guess that's all you have left after being owned.
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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I'll keep it in mind that common knowledge needs no tests. How flat is the world again?

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Mr Gray Aug 23 2013, 12:27 PM Post #65
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I'll keep it in mind that common knowledge needs no tests. How flat is the world again?

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the common knowledge is derived from the landlords' years of direct experience....nothing like the flat earth where it was a perception based upon the unknown.
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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shouldn't be hard to find even one piece of evidence to support your claim outside of hear-say...

In our city, we have condemned 4 houses this year. All of them were occupied by the home owner.

I don't claim it's one way or another, but don't think there's a really big difference between the two groups. That's based on my interaction with property managers and what I have seen from folks that enforce these types of issues.

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Another example is a section 8 apartment complex about a mile from my apartment. VERY successful and clean. Why? Because the property manager is there EVERY day ensuring that his assets are protected.

There's no excuse for a lazy property manager.

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I do believe that typically section 8 housing does suffer more tenant damage, but the shoe 'don't need numbers, I know what I know' is an immensely weak argument.

I also believe that landlords are less likely to fix their tenants problems as quickly as they would in other housing....however, I'm not going to cite 'common knowledge' and make that to be more than it....it's a supposition, not a factual statement.
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I do believe that typically section 8 housing does suffer more tenant damage, but the shoe 'don't need numbers, I know what I know' is an immensely weak argument.

I also believe that landlords are less likely to fix their tenants problems as quickly as they would in other housing....however, I'm not going to cite 'common knowledge' and make that to be more than it....it's a supposition, not a factual statement.
Brum, one of my businesses is in daily contact with landlords and property damages. That would be like me aski g you to provide a research study which shows that high school kids are smart asses. It just isn't necessary for someone in your position.
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I do believe that typically section 8 housing does suffer more tenant damage, but the shoe 'don't need numbers, I know what I know' is an immensely weak argument.

I also believe that landlords are less likely to fix their tenants problems as quickly as they would in other housing....however, I'm not going to cite 'common knowledge' and make that to be more than it....it's a supposition, not a factual statement.
Brum, one of my businesses is in daily contact with landlords and property damages. That would be like me aski g you to provide a research study which shows that high school kids are smart asses. It just isn't necessary for someone in your position.
" high school kids are smart asses" HaHa, I'm going to have to see the link for that one...
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I do believe that typically section 8 housing does suffer more tenant damage, but the shoe 'don't need numbers, I know what I know' is an immensely weak argument.

I also believe that landlords are less likely to fix their tenants problems as quickly as they would in other housing....however, I'm not going to cite 'common knowledge' and make that to be more than it....it's a supposition, not a factual statement.
Brum, one of my businesses is in daily contact with landlords and property damages. That would be like me aski g you to provide a research study which shows that high school kids are smart asses. It just isn't necessary for someone in your position.
Except I wouldn't make a factual statement about high school students being smartasses. I'd make a statement of opinion. And I certain wouldn't cite 'common knowledge' of it. "Smart assness' isn't exactly a measurable quantity. House destruction is. And Anything that is common knowledge can be easily backed with proof.....that's why it's common knowledge.
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I do believe that typically section 8 housing does suffer more tenant damage, but the shoe 'don't need numbers, I know what I know' is an immensely weak argument.

I also believe that landlords are less likely to fix their tenants problems as quickly as they would in other housing....however, I'm not going to cite 'common knowledge' and make that to be more than it....it's a supposition, not a factual statement.
Brum, one of my businesses is in daily contact with landlords and property damages. That would be like me aski g you to provide a research study which shows that high school kids are smart asses. It just isn't necessary for someone in your position.
Except I wouldn't make a factual statement about high school students being smartasses. I'd make a statement of opinion. And I certain wouldn't cite 'common knowledge' of it. "Smart assness' isn't exactly a measurable quantity. House destruction is. And Anything that is common knowledge can be easily backed with proof.....that's why it's common knowledge.
Bullshit and you know it.
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It doesn't take a study to have a little common sense
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It doesn't take a study to have a little common sense
I guess that's my point. We could certainly define "smart ass" and then conduct a research study to determine the extent to which high school kids are smart asses vs the rest of the population. All that would do, however, is confirm what those in the teaching industry already know based on their years of experience and direct observation or.....common knowledge.
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The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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I do believe that typically section 8 housing does suffer more tenant damage, but the shoe 'don't need numbers, I know what I know' is an immensely weak argument.

I also believe that landlords are less likely to fix their tenants problems as quickly as they would in other housing....however, I'm not going to cite 'common knowledge' and make that to be more than it....it's a supposition, not a factual statement.
Brum, one of my businesses is in daily contact with landlords and property damages. That would be like me aski g you to provide a research study which shows that high school kids are smart asses. It just isn't necessary for someone in your position.
Except I wouldn't make a factual statement about high school students being smartasses. I'd make a statement of opinion. And I certain wouldn't cite 'common knowledge' of it. "Smart assness' isn't exactly a measurable quantity. House destruction is. And Anything that is common knowledge can be easily backed with proof.....that's why it's common knowledge.
Bullshit and you know it.
Believe it or not, not everyone is like you and assumes their opinion is fact. That is what is bullshit.
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