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NM gay wedding ruling
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Real, if you had a lawn cutting service and had no openings on your schedule, should you be forced to cut someones lawn outside of your normal business hours because they ask for you to? Do you think just because you own a business you should be legally required to accept all business?
I guess I missed the part where the photographer said they were full. If that's the case then it is fine.

Or is this an analogy?
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Pretty sure under law you can do that.

There are Klan meetings correct?

And I didn't say it then because we hasn't got ridiculous and talking cook outs
yes there are, and there are also black panther meetings. So, you are saying that I can discriminate as long as I don't charge for it? That's seriously your reasoning? So, if the photographers stop charging for their photography service, then you would be OK with them excluding gays?
I am pretty sure if the photographers stopped charging then they wouldn't be a business so yes, I wouldn't care.

What is going to be the next ridiculous analogy?
no, the photographers would still be a business. Businesses offer free product/services all the time. So, are you saying that you would be Ok with denying free stuff to people based upon their race or sexual orientation? That seems even worse to me.....perhaps you should rethink your philosophy?
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Maybe I missed that business class where businesses succeed without capital.

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Maybe I missed that business class where businesses succeed without capital.

where did we start talking about capital?
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Maybe I missed that business class where businesses succeed without capital.

where did we start talking about capital?
How does one have a business without money coming in?
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Real, if you had a lawn cutting service and had no openings on your schedule, should you be forced to cut someones lawn outside of your normal business hours because they ask for you to? Do you think just because you own a business you should be legally required to accept all business?
I guess I missed the part where the photographer said they were full. If that's the case then it is fine.

Or is this an analogy?
Its not. If you have a business, you can certainly deny taking customers because you have no openings. You can deny customers because they are not willing to pay your price. You are not even obligated to charge the same amount for your service from two different customers. Aaron's point is just an extension of this. There are probably a million reasons why you can deny your services to a potential customer. Either the state is wrong saying you can not deny services because you do not want to work for a person, or you are wrong thinking you can deny services becauseof any of the myriad of possibilities that are 'OK' to deny services for. For example, should we allow movie theatres to be adult only even if the movie is PG or G?? Should we allow women only gyms?
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Should we allow women only gyms?
Very good point
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Maybe I missed that business class where businesses succeed without capital.

where did we start talking about capital?
How does one have a business without money coming in?
well, 1st of all, that's not "capital", so apparently you missed more than 1 business class. You are referring to "revenue", and I didn't say anything about having zero revenue coming in. Businesses offer promotional giveaways ALL THE TIME as a part of marketing or PR campaigns.
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And eel if you show a trend of charging a specific group more than others or hire a specific group more often you will get on trouble.

And please don't get into situations with nudity and sex as to groups. It's ridiculous
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Maybe I missed that business class where businesses succeed without capital.

where did we start talking about capital?
How does one have a business without money coming in?
well, 1st of all, that's not "capital", so apparently you missed more than 1 business class. You are referring to "revenue", and I didn't say anything about having zero revenue coming in. Businesses offer promotional giveaways ALL THE TIME as a part of marketing or PR campaigns.
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And eel if you show a trend of charging a specific group more than others or hire a specific group more often you will get on trouble.
Like the thousands of bars who run "ladies night" where women get in free and/or get free/discounted drinks?
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Maybe I missed that business class where businesses succeed without capital.

where did we start talking about capital?
How does one have a business without money coming in?
well, 1st of all, that's not "capital", so apparently you missed more than 1 business class. You are referring to "revenue", and I didn't say anything about having zero revenue coming in. Businesses offer promotional giveaways ALL THE TIME as a part of marketing or PR campaigns.
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your response to eel has nothing to do with this. I'm trying to figure out why you think it is OK for XYZ photography to offer free photography services to heterosexuals only. Somehow you don't define this as discrimination, which is very confusing.
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Ladies night. Been awhile since you have been out huh?

Most states have completely banned this an the others that promote them rarely offer any incentive.

Actually I don't know all but I know none that do
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Can you show where I said it is ok to offer free photography to heterosexuals only?
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Can you show where I said it is ok to offer free photography to heterosexuals only?
gladly, here is the link.

And here is exactly what was said.

I asked the following: So, if the photographers stop charging for their photography service, then you would be OK with them excluding gays?

You responded: I am pretty sure if the photographers stopped charging then they wouldn't be a business so yes, I wouldn't care.
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