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Unions sick of ObamaCare
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Mr Gray Oct 30 2013, 01:51 PM Post #106
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BTW -- do you not even think about what a $54/month health insurance coverage is? You can be against the mandated coverage, but don't pretend that the 54 dollar coverage plan is covering jack.
Who gives a fuck. The purchaser was more than happy with it. Why does her plan, that she pays for, need to appease you?
This is a good question. If you don't go to the doctor much, are reasonably healthy, and just want to be covered in the case of a major illness, $54 used to do it. I had a plan for $48 plus an HSA and it suited me great.
Unless, of course, you had a major illness or injury...in which case you would then rely on others who did have insurance paying for your lack of insurance through increased rates.

BTW, $48 plus an HSA is not the same thing as a $48 policy.
If I had a major illness or injury under that scenario the insurance companies lose out on my particular policy...but the risk is low of that happening in the macro....which is how it works.
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IUCOLTFAN Oct 30 2013, 02:18 PM Post #107
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During Wednesday's congressional testimony, a heated exchange occurred between Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius over one of the still-unexploded controversies in the ObamaCare law: the fact that ObamaCare's so-called "robust" coverage is in reality your government forcing you to pay for coverage that includes expensive services millions will never need. Ellmers called Sebelius out specifically for forcing men to buy maternity coverage.


Ellmers: You also brought up the issue that when you were in Kansas [as health Commissioner and governor] that you fought against discriminatory issues… As far as [ObamaCare's] essential health benefits, correct me if I'm wrong: do men not have to buy maternity care?
Sebelius: Policies will cover maternity coverage. For the young and healthy, uh, under ythirty year-olds will have a choice also of a catastrophic plan that has no maternity coverage.
Ellmers: But men are required to purchase maternity coverage.
Sebelius: Well, an insurance policy has a series of benefits whether you use them or not…
Ellmers: And that is why health care premiums are increasing, because we are forcing them to buy things that they will never need. Thank you.
Sebelius: The individual policies cover families. Men often do need maternity care for their spouses and for their families, yes.
Ellmers: A single male, aged 32, does need maternity coverage. To the best of your knowledge, has a man ever delivered a baby?


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HoosierLars Oct 30 2013, 02:29 PM Post #108
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During Wednesday's congressional testimony, a heated exchange occurred between Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC) and Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius over one of the still-unexploded controversies in the ObamaCare law: the fact that ObamaCare's so-called "robust" coverage is in reality your government forcing you to pay for coverage that includes expensive services millions will never need. Ellmers called Sebelius out specifically for forcing men to buy maternity coverage.


Ellmers: You also brought up the issue that when you were in Kansas [as health Commissioner and governor] that you fought against discriminatory issues… As far as [ObamaCare's] essential health benefits, correct me if I'm wrong: do men not have to buy maternity care?
Sebelius: Policies will cover maternity coverage. For the young and healthy, uh, under ythirty year-olds will have a choice also of a catastrophic plan that has no maternity coverage.
Ellmers: But men are required to purchase maternity coverage.
Sebelius: Well, an insurance policy has a series of benefits whether you use them or not…
Ellmers: And that is why health care premiums are increasing, because we are forcing them to buy things that they will never need. Thank you.
Sebelius: The individual policies cover families. Men often do need maternity care for their spouses and for their families, yes.
Ellmers: A single male, aged 32, does need maternity coverage. To the best of your knowledge, has a man ever delivered a baby?


Sebelius: Yes, I have two.
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IUCOLTFAN Oct 31 2013, 09:30 AM Post #109
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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-navigator-hasnt-signed-anyone-because-its-too-expensive_765629.html

Al Jazeera reporting on the Obamacare fail?
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Colt, do you remember when I was critical of Obama when he decreed that even though ObamaCare cut $700B from Medicare, service would NOT be impacted? Dreach and others objected, and even the post VP debate "fact-checkers" objected. I called out the fact-checkers, and was criticized again. The fact that many liberals/progressives/leftists don't understand basic market forces helps explain their nonsensical positions on many issues.
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