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Indiana (6-6) v. Duke (7-5) Game Thread; December 26th, 2015: New Era Pinstripe Bowl
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dedicatedIUfan Dec 26 2015, 08:01 PM Post #16
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I actually thought it was good too. Kinda depends on the angle the refs had
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I think it was a good call. It definitively has to be inside if it goes over...I don't think it's clear that it's inside.

That angle makes it look inside. The live angle looked like it went over the top, even shading on the outside.
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An official is directly under the upright and has a perfect view. If over the upright the ball must clearly be inside the upright to be called good.

I had two of these (ball was about 3-4 inches outside the upright) in the same game this year. Laughed when on the way home while listening to a local scoreboard show, the host of the show happened to call the game on the radio that night. While talking to a caller he said something to the effect of "from the booth both looked good".
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Just add this to the list of ways we managed to lose games this year. Did you guys really think this game was going to be different? This team just cannot deal with success.

Just think about all of the times during this game when we had grabbed momentum and looked ready to take over the game. Up four and force a three and out, fumble a punt and give up the lead. Up four and in the red zone again, drop an easy TD and have to settle for a field goal. Get a big interception and return it to mid field, get called for two personal fouls and end up back inside our own ten. Even in OT, Duke's starting QB is out of the game so we may actually have a better chance to stop them if it goes another OT, so we miss a field goal and don't even give ourselves a chance.

This team just cannot come through at the most crucial moments of close games...ever.

I mean, when we scored that go ahead TD with about 4 minutes to go, I thought to myself..."Well, Duke has 34 points on the board somehow but they haven't put together one long drive the whole game. Here comes their first one." No doubt this game was either going OT or they'd score and win one a 2 point conversion. Once again, all we needed was one stop from our defense at the end of a game and once again it didn't happen. It never happens with this team.
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An official is directly under the upright and has a perfect view. If over the upright the ball must clearly be inside the upright to be called good.

I had two of these (ball was about 3-4 inches outside the upright) in the same game this year. Laughed when on the way home while listening to a local scoreboard show, the host of the show happened to call the game on the radio that night. While talking to a caller he said something to the effect of "from the booth both looked good".
I didn't know you were a referee. As someone who has refereed basketball games, what a thankless profession. Getting into coaching and away from that is something I think myself for every day, lol.
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I don't know seriously how anyone can view this and state that the call was correct. They certainly don't understand how parallax works. The viewing angle may make things look like they are closer or farther in this case, but they can NOT make them switch the order they are in. If that were the case, then the goal post would not look like it was extending straight upward.
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An official is directly under the upright and has a perfect view. If over the upright the ball must clearly be inside the upright to be called good.

I had two of these (ball was about 3-4 inches outside the upright) in the same game this year. Laughed when on the way home while listening to a local scoreboard show, the host of the show happened to call the game on the radio that night. While talking to a caller he said something to the effect of "from the booth both looked good".
The claim about the kick in this game isn't based on how it looked 'from the booth'.
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An official is directly under the upright and has a perfect view. If over the upright the ball must clearly be inside the upright to be called good.

I had two of these (ball was about 3-4 inches outside the upright) in the same game this year. Laughed when on the way home while listening to a local scoreboard show, the host of the show happened to call the game on the radio that night. While talking to a caller he said something to the effect of "from the booth both looked good".
I didn't know you were a referee. As someone who has refereed basketball games, what a thankless profession. Getting into coaching and away from that is something I think myself for every day, lol.
It is a thankless profession. Doesn't mean that if a call is incorrect it shouldn't be questioned. I've been an umpire in baseball and can tell you that not every call I made was correct.....it certainly is no consolation to the team that got the short end that the job was 'tough'.
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Congrats on another losing season :P


Tough break. One angle the ball looked a hair outside (the one from up and behind) and the other it looked a hair inside (the one from basically the goal post stand). Have to think the ref standing directly below the upright had the best view of anybody. Either way, Indiana showed themselves well in the game I thought.
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Refs once got this shit wrong even WITH replay, so let's not pretend they must have gotten it right here just because they have the best view.

[utube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asz-sof4UoU[/utube]

Good or no good, the ridiculousness is

1) That all scoring plays are reviewed, unless, ya know, someone kicks a field goal, like, super high and stuff.

2) NFL STILL does not use goaline/goal post technology like in tennis or soccer. I mean what the fuck, NFL?
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honestly thought this was some pic from the new star wars movie. didn't realize it was relevant to this thread till now.
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/12/26/10668058/duke-indiana-bowl-win-1960-pinstripe-bowl-final-score-recap

That kick is outside IMO.
“He’s always been a guy — maybe to a fault — he would always try to do what I said. That seems like something simple in coaching, but those are the guys I hang my hat on. We’ve had some guys in our program, we had a couple guys that felt I had a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. And they were right — I do have a bias towards E’Twaun Moore. I like guys that go to class, that are academic All-Americans, that come early, that stay late, that love the game of basketball. I am biased towards those guys. And I’m biased towards Rob Hummel. But I’m also biased towards their habits, their work ethic, and how they carry themselves."

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From that angle, I completely agree; I don't see how it could definitively be inside.

Also, Brum, I wasn't excusing poor officiating with my comment to JK. I was simply making small talk about being a referee, regardless of sport.
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An official is directly under the upright and has a perfect view. If over the upright the ball must clearly be inside the upright to be called good.

I had two of these (ball was about 3-4 inches outside the upright) in the same game this year. Laughed when on the way home while listening to a local scoreboard show, the host of the show happened to call the game on the radio that night. While talking to a caller he said something to the effect of "from the booth both looked good".
The claim about the kick in this game isn't based on how it looked 'from the booth'.
I realize that brum. I was just stating my experience from earlier this year.

There is only one spot where it can be determined if the ball was inside the upright or not and that is standing directly below it. You look straight up the post and watch the ball fly over, if you lose sight of the ball at all, it is not clearly inside the upright and therefore no good.

I don't like the result, but believe the official got it right.
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honestly thought this was some pic from the new star wars movie. didn't realize it was relevant to this thread till now.
In this pic, the ball has yet to get to the upright. Therefore appears to be inside and good.
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