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Purdue VS those guys with no legs left (I hope.)
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HoosierLars Mar 13 2016, 12:11 AM Post #31
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Very nice showing so far. Looking ahead to the NCAAs, I think we've played our way to the 3-line...barring a total disaster in tomorrow's game.
It will be really interesting to see Purdue's seed, especially if they win tomorrow. Though no fault of your own, obviously, you're in the B1G tournament championship game without a "quality" win in the process. If you would have beat Iowa and Indiana, on the way, that would have been infinitely better than beating Illinois and Michigan.

Also, I've always been under the impression that what you do in the final of the B1G tournament doesn't resonate in terms of seeding considering how close it is to Selection Sunday. Maybe they have contingent brackets depending on who wins. I obviously don't know, but I've always assumed, correct or not, that that game won't impact seeding one way or another, which isn't fair.
In the past, there have been years where the seeding committee has talked about having multiple brackets depending on the BTT final. However, I tend to doubt that, and am still bitter over the '09 5th seed. We managed to get to the S16, but then ran into the #1 overall seed, Uconn.
I don't remember that talk, but that's interesting. Of course, as your skepticism implies, who knows if that's legit.

As with most teams, Purdue occasionally shoots poorly from deep (although from I've seen, Mathias and Vince have been shooting the hell out of it lately) and turns it over too much. The only thing that consistently gives them problems, from my point of view, is a trapping, pressure defense in the backcourt. I'd assume most Purdue fans wouldn't want to be matched up with a full-court, pressure defensive type of team.
I had nightmares for awhile after that '11 VCU beat-down. The fact that they went on to the Final Four made it a little easier to get over.
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Very nice showing so far. Looking ahead to the NCAAs, I think we've played our way to the 3-line...barring a total disaster in tomorrow's game.
It will be really interesting to see Purdue's seed, especially if they win tomorrow. Though no fault of your own, obviously, you're in the B1G tournament championship game without a "quality" win in the process. If you would have beat Iowa and Indiana, on the way, that would have been infinitely better than beating Illinois and Michigan.

Also, I've always been under the impression that what you do in the final of the B1G tournament doesn't resonate in terms of seeding considering how close it is to Selection Sunday. Maybe they have contingent brackets depending on who wins. I obviously don't know, but I've always assumed, correct or not, that that game won't impact seeding one way or another, which isn't fair.
In the past, there have been years where the seeding committee has talked about having multiple brackets depending on the BTT final. However, I tend to doubt that, and am still bitter over the '09 5th seed. We managed to get to the S16, but then ran into the #1 overall seed, Uconn.
I don't remember that talk, but that's interesting. Of course, as your skepticism implies, who knows if that's legit.

As with most teams, Purdue occasionally shoots poorly from deep (although from I've seen, Mathias and Vince have been shooting the hell out of it lately) and turns it over too much. The only thing that consistently gives them problems, from my point of view, is a trapping, pressure defense in the backcourt. I'd assume most Purdue fans wouldn't want to be matched up with a full-court, pressure defensive type of team.
How many of those teams even exist? I can think of one major conference team that presses 40 minutes a game.
Agreed, although I wasn't talking about a 40-minute type team. No teams look like the Arkansas Razorbacks circa 1998. Iowa and Maryland don't press for 40 minutes and they caused Purdue fits when they went that route.

If Purdue can make it through the bracket playing teams that aren't comfortable pressing, I think they're in really, really good shape. I think we'd agree there.
I'd be more worried about a team like UNC who has major length. Iowa and Maryland pressed out of desperation and Purdue struggled with, but I think they'll be better at it going forward. That Maryland game was so weird, they just lost their minds for like 3 min.

Teams that can compete on the glass will give Purdue problems because that's where they make up possessions lost where they turn it over themselves and they also don't force many turnovers themselves.

I like Purdue's chances vs most teams when they don't give up turnovers that lead to lay ups on the other end.
The kind of team that could give Purdue a little bit of problem is Texas. They don't press as much as Shaka Smart's VCU teams, but they do throw it in the mix. Also, if Cameron Ridley is good to go (he played for the first time in almost four months in the Big 12 tournament -- although for just a couple of minutes) he gives them a big body (6'9", 285 pounds) who is a deceptively good athlete who is a plus rebounder and defender and could hold his own underneath against the big bodies of Purdue.
Meh, he's played 2 minutes since December 19th and their other bugs would get worked by Hammons and Haas. They also are 301st in tempo which would play into Purdue's hands. And Texas is a lousy rebounding team.
Never said they'd be favored to beat Purdue. But it's not like I took the route and said an ultra-talented team like UNC whom is going to be seeded ahead of Purdue as a team that would give Purdue trouble. I'm talking about teams that could potentially meet Purdue prior to the sweet sixteen....no North Carolinas in that group because of seeding. So looking at that grouping, you have to look at teams potentially seeded 5 or 6.

Texas right now is projecting around the 6 line. And that seeding is based on what they did with Riddle basically not being on their team -- anything they get from him in the tournament is gravy. If they don't get anything from him, they are still a six seed talented team....if they get anything of value from him, they are better than that. I don't have access to Pom's subscription service, so I'll reference BPI (and not the incredibly awful why-does-it-still-exist RPI). Texas has played SEVEN games against top ten BPI teams and has 4 wins against that group. They've played an amazing 17 games against top 50 BPI teams. There schedule is ranked 2 on BPI, 1 on Pom. And I don't know about you, but I wouldn't look forward to playing a Shaka Smart team come tournament time.

Purdue would be favored to beat Texas. But if I look at Texas and some other potential 6 seed type teams (like Baylor, Seton Hall, Notre Dame, and Dayton), Texas is the one I would least want to play.

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