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Topic Started: Apr 6 2016, 01:24 PM (2,716 Views)
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Mr Gray
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May 17 2016, 10:36 AM
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I think I've made my position pretty clear on how I believe schools should handle this, and it doesn't involve a blanket solution of "just let the kids use the other bathroom".
so you disagree with the President?
Isn't that what I just said? not directly. You used 32 words when one would have been fine. Ironically, you are actually closer to the people who you referred to as discriminatory than you are to the President and others who support this nonsense.
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rkl15
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May 17 2016, 11:17 AM
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I have to say I disagree with Mr President.
By using a Transgender bathroom every student in the school will know. It will just advertise the issue.
That will only increase the amount of Bullying that student will endure.
Kids can be cruel and no law or special bathroom is going to help the situation.
i don't think the President is calling for a "transgender bathroom" Maybe he isn't.
But, when a classmate that has been using the men's restroom for as long as you have known them suddenly starts using the ladies restroom???
Hello?? McFly??
Life sucks and is cruel.
I was teased to no end when I was in elementary and Jr. high because I am short. And my middle name is Kelly and because my last named is pronounced like Lush. (BTW, not even spelled close to that, those darn Germans!)
I don't remember anyone offering me elevator shoes, or changing my name.
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dreachon
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May 17 2016, 12:11 PM
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- Mr Gray
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I think I've made my position pretty clear on how I believe schools should handle this, and it doesn't involve a blanket solution of "just let the kids use the other bathroom".
so you disagree with the President?
Isn't that what I just said?
not directly. You used 32 words when one would have been fine. Ironically, you are actually closer to the people who you referred to as discriminatory than you are to the President and others who support this nonsense. Do explain my position of being closer to those who I view as discriminatory.
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Mr Gray
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May 17 2016, 12:16 PM
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I think I've made my position pretty clear on how I believe schools should handle this, and it doesn't involve a blanket solution of "just let the kids use the other bathroom".
so you disagree with the President?
Isn't that what I just said?
not directly. You used 32 words when one would have been fine. Ironically, you are actually closer to the people who you referred to as discriminatory than you are to the President and others who support this nonsense.
Do explain my position of being closer to those who I view as discriminatory. you don't agree with the Charlotte Law You think the Charlotte law was unnecessary you think that just letting people use the other bathroom isn't the solution - noted that you have specified children here, but I believe that you also feel that a non-trans person should just use the bathroom of their biological sex
The side that you think you agree with, actually disagrees with you on all 3 points. Watch out.....brian might assume he knows your heart and call you a anti-trans bigot.
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 The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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dreachon
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May 17 2016, 12:45 PM
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you don't agree with the Charlotte Law You think the Charlotte law was unnecessary you think that just letting people use the other bathroom isn't the solution - noted that you have specified children here, but I believe that you also feel that a non-trans person should just use the bathroom of their biological sex
The side that you think you agree with, actually disagrees with you on all 3 points. Watch out.....brian might assume he knows your heart and call you a anti-trans bigot. Correct: But important to note that while I think the Charlotte law was unnecessary, the law passed in response is what I am vehemently against. The Charlotte law was just putting into law something that was already inherently legal.
Pretty important to note that I'm only referring to school children here. Letting people use whatever bathroom they think is most appropriate at the time is exactly my opinion, and falls right in line with the LGBT community.
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May 17 2016, 12:48 PM
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you don't agree with the Charlotte Law You think the Charlotte law was unnecessary you think that just letting people use the other bathroom isn't the solution - noted that you have specified children here, but I believe that you also feel that a non-trans person should just use the bathroom of their biological sex
The side that you think you agree with, actually disagrees with you on all 3 points. Watch out.....brian might assume he knows your heart and call you a anti-trans bigot.
Correct: But important to note that while I think the Charlotte law was unnecessary, the law passed in response is what I am vehemently against. The Charlotte law was just putting into law something that was already inherently legal. Pretty important to note that I'm only referring to school children here. Letting people use whatever bathroom they think is most appropriate at the time is exactly my opinion, and falls right in line with the LGBT community. we've probably covered this to some degree, but how do you define "appropriate" in your statement.
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rkl15
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May 17 2016, 01:12 PM
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"Appropriate" is not a good word to use.
That word can and is different for each person.
What I find appropriate, you may not.
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dreachon
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May 17 2016, 01:52 PM
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you don't agree with the Charlotte Law You think the Charlotte law was unnecessary you think that just letting people use the other bathroom isn't the solution - noted that you have specified children here, but I believe that you also feel that a non-trans person should just use the bathroom of their biological sex
The side that you think you agree with, actually disagrees with you on all 3 points. Watch out.....brian might assume he knows your heart and call you a anti-trans bigot.
Correct: But important to note that while I think the Charlotte law was unnecessary, the law passed in response is what I am vehemently against. The Charlotte law was just putting into law something that was already inherently legal. Pretty important to note that I'm only referring to school children here. Letting people use whatever bathroom they think is most appropriate at the time is exactly my opinion, and falls right in line with the LGBT community.
we've probably covered this to some degree, but how do you define "appropriate" in your statement. There's probably 1000 different reasons. As RKL mentions in his post, "appropriate" varies from person to person.
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May 17 2016, 02:11 PM
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you don't agree with the Charlotte Law You think the Charlotte law was unnecessary you think that just letting people use the other bathroom isn't the solution - noted that you have specified children here, but I believe that you also feel that a non-trans person should just use the bathroom of their biological sex
The side that you think you agree with, actually disagrees with you on all 3 points. Watch out.....brian might assume he knows your heart and call you a anti-trans bigot.
Correct: But important to note that while I think the Charlotte law was unnecessary, the law passed in response is what I am vehemently against. The Charlotte law was just putting into law something that was already inherently legal. Pretty important to note that I'm only referring to school children here. Letting people use whatever bathroom they think is most appropriate at the time is exactly my opinion, and falls right in line with the LGBT community.
we've probably covered this to some degree, but how do you define "appropriate" in your statement.
There's probably 1000 different reasons. As RKL mentions in his post, "appropriate" varies from person to person. so in your world, is it basically just a bathroom free for all then?
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 The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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May 17 2016, 02:33 PM
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you don't agree with the Charlotte Law You think the Charlotte law was unnecessary you think that just letting people use the other bathroom isn't the solution - noted that you have specified children here, but I believe that you also feel that a non-trans person should just use the bathroom of their biological sex
The side that you think you agree with, actually disagrees with you on all 3 points. Watch out.....brian might assume he knows your heart and call you a anti-trans bigot.
Correct: But important to note that while I think the Charlotte law was unnecessary, the law passed in response is what I am vehemently against. The Charlotte law was just putting into law something that was already inherently legal. Pretty important to note that I'm only referring to school children here. Letting people use whatever bathroom they think is most appropriate at the time is exactly my opinion, and falls right in line with the LGBT community.
we've probably covered this to some degree, but how do you define "appropriate" in your statement.
There's probably 1000 different reasons. As RKL mentions in his post, "appropriate" varies from person to person.
so in your world, is it basically just a bathroom free for all then? TOTALLY. Every bathroom is going to be fucking crazy, man. Men, women, children, all doing their business loud and proud. Tampons are going to go flying and diapers will be smeared all over the walls. Sex....OMG...SEX....all the time. I can't wait.
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May 17 2016, 03:06 PM
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you don't agree with the Charlotte Law You think the Charlotte law was unnecessary you think that just letting people use the other bathroom isn't the solution - noted that you have specified children here, but I believe that you also feel that a non-trans person should just use the bathroom of their biological sex
The side that you think you agree with, actually disagrees with you on all 3 points. Watch out.....brian might assume he knows your heart and call you a anti-trans bigot.
Correct: But important to note that while I think the Charlotte law was unnecessary, the law passed in response is what I am vehemently against. The Charlotte law was just putting into law something that was already inherently legal. Pretty important to note that I'm only referring to school children here. Letting people use whatever bathroom they think is most appropriate at the time is exactly my opinion, and falls right in line with the LGBT community.
we've probably covered this to some degree, but how do you define "appropriate" in your statement.
There's probably 1000 different reasons. As RKL mentions in his post, "appropriate" varies from person to person.
so in your world, is it basically just a bathroom free for all then?
TOTALLY. Every bathroom is going to be fucking crazy, man. Men, women, children, all doing their business loud and proud. Tampons are going to go flying and diapers will be smeared all over the walls. Sex....OMG...SEX....all the time. I can't wait. good job avoiding the question
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 The body knows what fighters don't: how to protect itself. A neck can only twist so far. Twist it just a hair more and the body says, "Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses." It's called the knockout mechanism.
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May 17 2016, 03:25 PM
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you don't agree with the Charlotte Law You think the Charlotte law was unnecessary you think that just letting people use the other bathroom isn't the solution - noted that you have specified children here, but I believe that you also feel that a non-trans person should just use the bathroom of their biological sex
The side that you think you agree with, actually disagrees with you on all 3 points. Watch out.....brian might assume he knows your heart and call you a anti-trans bigot.
Correct: But important to note that while I think the Charlotte law was unnecessary, the law passed in response is what I am vehemently against. The Charlotte law was just putting into law something that was already inherently legal. Pretty important to note that I'm only referring to school children here. Letting people use whatever bathroom they think is most appropriate at the time is exactly my opinion, and falls right in line with the LGBT community.
we've probably covered this to some degree, but how do you define "appropriate" in your statement.
There's probably 1000 different reasons. As RKL mentions in his post, "appropriate" varies from person to person.
so in your world, is it basically just a bathroom free for all then?
TOTALLY. Every bathroom is going to be fucking crazy, man. Men, women, children, all doing their business loud and proud. Tampons are going to go flying and diapers will be smeared all over the walls. Sex....OMG...SEX....all the time. I can't wait.
good job avoiding the question To be fair, I already asked him point blank if he felt if a public facility (specifically in the case of public schools) gave the option of a unisex bathroom if that met the accomodating aspect of transgender students and he said he felt that it did. This was asked prior to the DOJ's declaration and President Obama's executive order. I asked him after the executive order and he said he disagreed with it.
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May 17 2016, 03:56 PM
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I have to say I disagree with Mr President.
By using a Transgender bathroom every student in the school will know. It will just advertise the issue.
That will only increase the amount of Bullying that student will endure.
Kids can be cruel and no law or special bathroom is going to help the situation.
i don't think the President is calling for a "transgender bathroom"
Maybe he isn't. But, when a classmate that has been using the men's restroom for as long as you have known them suddenly starts using the ladies restroom??? Hello?? McFly?? Life sucks and is cruel. I was teased to no end when I was in elementary and Jr. high because I am short. And my middle name is Kelly and because my last named is pronounced like Lush. (BTW, not even spelled close to that, those darn Germans!) I don't remember anyone offering me elevator shoes, or changing my name. I too am short and am not going to even begin to compare any sort of teasing to the discrimination a transgender individual would endure. That's just silly
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May 17 2016, 04:04 PM
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you don't agree with the Charlotte Law You think the Charlotte law was unnecessary you think that just letting people use the other bathroom isn't the solution - noted that you have specified children here, but I believe that you also feel that a non-trans person should just use the bathroom of their biological sex
The side that you think you agree with, actually disagrees with you on all 3 points. Watch out.....brian might assume he knows your heart and call you a anti-trans bigot.
Correct: But important to note that while I think the Charlotte law was unnecessary, the law passed in response is what I am vehemently against. The Charlotte law was just putting into law something that was already inherently legal. Pretty important to note that I'm only referring to school children here. Letting people use whatever bathroom they think is most appropriate at the time is exactly my opinion, and falls right in line with the LGBT community.
we've probably covered this to some degree, but how do you define "appropriate" in your statement.
There's probably 1000 different reasons. As RKL mentions in his post, "appropriate" varies from person to person.
so in your world, is it basically just a bathroom free for all then?
TOTALLY. Every bathroom is going to be fucking crazy, man. Men, women, children, all doing their business loud and proud. Tampons are going to go flying and diapers will be smeared all over the walls. Sex....OMG...SEX....all the time. I can't wait.
good job avoiding the question Oh are we calling people out for not answering a question after one post now? Ok.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5q27rSY39U
"free for all" makes it sound like anybody can do whatever they want in the whatever bathroom they want. So the answer to your question no. It's not a "free for all".
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May 17 2016, 04:13 PM
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I'm not sure how we've survived all these years with bathrooms being a free for all.
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