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brumdog44 Sep 21 2016, 07:13 PM Post #361
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So your stance is that only women can make the abortion decision?
I've missed a lot so I'm not sure where to jump back into the conversation, but that's my opinion, personally. Clearly I think it would be best practice to discuss it with the father, family members, doctors, etc...but ultimately it is her decision.
Obviously no body should be able to force the mother to have an abortion, including the father....that probably goes without saying. But on the other side of things, if a couple gets pregnant, and then say 3 months in, the woman decides she doesn't want to have the baby, how is it that you feel she has the exclusive right to make that decision and terminate what would become his child as well? Seems very unfair to the father.
Life is not always fair. Forcing a woman to carry a baby she doesn't want seems like some real third world extremist take on women's rights to me.
killing a baby that a man wants to keep seems even more 3rd world....well, more like Barbarian.
In the eyes of the law, it is not a baby. It also isn't considered murder. Therefore, the line you are using -- 'killing a baby' -- is your opinion, not accepted fact nor a legal definition.

So until he can actually carry the fetus, it's ultimately not his decision. Abortion is a legal procedure. Forcing someone to not have a completely legal procedure done on them because someone else disagrees with them seems wrong, IMO.


Here's the thing though brum....even under the current status where the fetus isn't considered a full human being....it is considered a thing with a degree of legal status, because I believe if that same woman chooses to keep the baby, the father is in fact responsible for a part of the medical costs to carry it and deliver it...meaning the "thing" is considered by law to be partially his. With that being said, it doesn't seem fair that she is granted sole decision making authority for something that he is being partially held liable for.
In researching, I'm finding a variety of answers in terms of whether a father is required to help pay for prenatal care. It seems to vary from state to state. Some states do not make the father financially liable until birth, others do.

It is worth noting that if the mother and father disagree with prenatal care doctors/procedures, the woman's decision trumps the man's legally. That is consistent with abortion decisions.
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