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Trump meets with Pence to talk VP consideration
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LOL.......Pence is locked up in a dogfight to even get re-elected in a red meat state of Indiana. Most polls have it around 49-45 Pence....with Pence's approval rating currently at a negative rating. As a means of comparison, Chris Christie has hit an all-time low favorability in New Jersey and he's still at +10%.

Nationally, the one thing people know about Pence is RFRA and the fact of the matter is he failed on the national stage with it.
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I hope he picks that pro-choice ex-military Democrat guy. Seriously.
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I hope he picks that pro-choice ex-military Democrat guy. Seriously.
I haven't been following -- who is that?

I mean, Trump already seems to be trying to gift wrap the election to the democrats. Might as well put a bow on it as well.
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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
They probably did their research but it's hard to believe this will help him. I assume he was already going to win Indiana. Maybe more of the mainstream GOP and perhaps evangelicals?
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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
They probably did their research but it's hard to believe this will help him. I assume he was already going to win Indiana. Maybe more of the mainstream GOP and perhaps evangelicals?
I really thought the democratic general would have been a great choice from him.
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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
They probably did their research but it's hard to believe this will help him. I assume he was already going to win Indiana. Maybe more of the mainstream GOP and perhaps evangelicals?
I really thought the democratic general would have been a great choice from him.
I think that would have been a horrendous choice. A lot of lifelong republicans don't trust his 'conservative' principles. Throw in a democratic general with a history of being pro-choice and I think some of the ones that would have are only voting for him because he's pro-life.....but they aren't even wholly convinced that he truly is. Picking the democratic general certainly wouldn't help that.

The reality is that vice-presidential candidates rarely move the needle much. McCain's handlers knew they were behind badly and picked Palin......which temporarily boosted numbers because people didn't know her, but once they found out his number reverted back to where they were or even below.

The reality is that the A-list candidates -- ones that the party and perhaps Trump might have wanted -- all shot down the nomination. Corker and Ernst both pulled themselves out of consideration. Trump's picks came down to all damaged goods -- Pence handled the RFRA so poorly on the national stage (regardless of your opinion on the law, he did not handle questions to him well on the national stage and the hard line conservatives basically felt he ended up bowing to pressure). Pence's approval rating is in the 40s, in some polls having a negative rating. Chris Christie's negative rating in New Jersey was through the roof -- in May of this year it had reached 64% negative to 29% positive; Newt Gingrinch is basically a political whore willing to do anything to get back in the game and the takes that came out today taped from a February meeting says as much.

http://gawker.com/newt-gingrich-has-been-talking-behind-donald-trumps-bac-1783667634
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BTW, Trump is polling pretty evenly right now. Unfortunately for him, IMO that's not a good sign....this has occurred at Clinton's most vulnerable time. Once the cycle ends, we're probably looking at it being where it was before.
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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
They probably did their research but it's hard to believe this will help him. I assume he was already going to win Indiana. Maybe more of the mainstream GOP and perhaps evangelicals?
I really thought the democratic general would have been a great choice from him.
I think that would have been a horrendous choice. A lot of lifelong republicans don't trust his 'conservative' principles. Throw in a democratic general with a history of being pro-choice and I think some of the ones that would have are only voting for him because he's pro-life.....but they aren't even wholly convinced that he truly is. Picking the democratic general certainly wouldn't help that.

The reality is that vice-presidential candidates rarely move the needle much. McCain's handlers knew they were behind badly and picked Palin......which temporarily boosted numbers because people didn't know her, but once they found out his number reverted back to where they were or even below.

The reality is that the A-list candidates -- ones that the party and perhaps Trump might have wanted -- all shot down the nomination. Corker and Ernst both pulled themselves out of consideration. Trump's picks came down to all damaged goods -- Pence handled the RFRA so poorly on the national stage (regardless of your opinion on the law, he did not handle questions to him well on the national stage and the hard line conservatives basically felt he ended up bowing to pressure). Pence's approval rating is in the 40s, in some polls having a negative rating. Chris Christie's negative rating in New Jersey was through the roof -- in May of this year it had reached 64% negative to 29% positive; Newt Gingrinch is basically a political whore willing to do anything to get back in the game and the takes that came out today taped from a February meeting says as much.

http://gawker.com/newt-gingrich-has-been-talking-behind-donald-trumps-bac-1783667634
I mean I don't think any VP is going to help him win, but at least the General is part of his MO. Buck the establishment? Be the candidate that's totally different? Would have fit perfectly in with his crazy campaign.
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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
They probably did their research but it's hard to believe this will help him. I assume he was already going to win Indiana. Maybe more of the mainstream GOP and perhaps evangelicals?
I really thought the democratic general would have been a great choice from him.
I think that would have been a horrendous choice. A lot of lifelong republicans don't trust his 'conservative' principles. Throw in a democratic general with a history of being pro-choice and I think some of the ones that would have are only voting for him because he's pro-life.....but they aren't even wholly convinced that he truly is. Picking the democratic general certainly wouldn't help that.

The reality is that vice-presidential candidates rarely move the needle much. McCain's handlers knew they were behind badly and picked Palin......which temporarily boosted numbers because people didn't know her, but once they found out his number reverted back to where they were or even below.

The reality is that the A-list candidates -- ones that the party and perhaps Trump might have wanted -- all shot down the nomination. Corker and Ernst both pulled themselves out of consideration. Trump's picks came down to all damaged goods -- Pence handled the RFRA so poorly on the national stage (regardless of your opinion on the law, he did not handle questions to him well on the national stage and the hard line conservatives basically felt he ended up bowing to pressure). Pence's approval rating is in the 40s, in some polls having a negative rating. Chris Christie's negative rating in New Jersey was through the roof -- in May of this year it had reached 64% negative to 29% positive; Newt Gingrinch is basically a political whore willing to do anything to get back in the game and the takes that came out today taped from a February meeting says as much.

http://gawker.com/newt-gingrich-has-been-talking-behind-donald-trumps-bac-1783667634
Brum, Trump is pro choice.
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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
They probably did their research but it's hard to believe this will help him. I assume he was already going to win Indiana. Maybe more of the mainstream GOP and perhaps evangelicals?
I really thought the democratic general would have been a great choice from him.
I think that would have been a horrendous choice. A lot of lifelong republicans don't trust his 'conservative' principles. Throw in a democratic general with a history of being pro-choice and I think some of the ones that would have are only voting for him because he's pro-life.....but they aren't even wholly convinced that he truly is. Picking the democratic general certainly wouldn't help that.

The reality is that vice-presidential candidates rarely move the needle much. McCain's handlers knew they were behind badly and picked Palin......which temporarily boosted numbers because people didn't know her, but once they found out his number reverted back to where they were or even below.

The reality is that the A-list candidates -- ones that the party and perhaps Trump might have wanted -- all shot down the nomination. Corker and Ernst both pulled themselves out of consideration. Trump's picks came down to all damaged goods -- Pence handled the RFRA so poorly on the national stage (regardless of your opinion on the law, he did not handle questions to him well on the national stage and the hard line conservatives basically felt he ended up bowing to pressure). Pence's approval rating is in the 40s, in some polls having a negative rating. Chris Christie's negative rating in New Jersey was through the roof -- in May of this year it had reached 64% negative to 29% positive; Newt Gingrinch is basically a political whore willing to do anything to get back in the game and the takes that came out today taped from a February meeting says as much.

http://gawker.com/newt-gingrich-has-been-talking-behind-donald-trumps-bac-1783667634
Brum, Trump is pro choice.
I know he is. You know he is. But I think quite a few of his supporters who are pro-life don't bother to read the fine print.

It's because of things like this, where he says one thing but doesn't really give his whole viewpoint.
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/06/10/donald-trump-tells-pro-life-voters-im-with-you-100-we-must-protect-the-sanctity-of-life/


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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
They probably did their research but it's hard to believe this will help him. I assume he was already going to win Indiana. Maybe more of the mainstream GOP and perhaps evangelicals?
I really thought the democratic general would have been a great choice from him.
I think that would have been a horrendous choice. A lot of lifelong republicans don't trust his 'conservative' principles. Throw in a democratic general with a history of being pro-choice and I think some of the ones that would have are only voting for him because he's pro-life.....but they aren't even wholly convinced that he truly is. Picking the democratic general certainly wouldn't help that.

The reality is that vice-presidential candidates rarely move the needle much. McCain's handlers knew they were behind badly and picked Palin......which temporarily boosted numbers because people didn't know her, but once they found out his number reverted back to where they were or even below.

The reality is that the A-list candidates -- ones that the party and perhaps Trump might have wanted -- all shot down the nomination. Corker and Ernst both pulled themselves out of consideration. Trump's picks came down to all damaged goods -- Pence handled the RFRA so poorly on the national stage (regardless of your opinion on the law, he did not handle questions to him well on the national stage and the hard line conservatives basically felt he ended up bowing to pressure). Pence's approval rating is in the 40s, in some polls having a negative rating. Chris Christie's negative rating in New Jersey was through the roof -- in May of this year it had reached 64% negative to 29% positive; Newt Gingrinch is basically a political whore willing to do anything to get back in the game and the takes that came out today taped from a February meeting says as much.

http://gawker.com/newt-gingrich-has-been-talking-behind-donald-trumps-bac-1783667634
Brum, Trump is pro choice.
I know he is. You know he is. But I think quite a few of his supporters who are pro-life don't bother to read the fine print.

It's because of things like this, where he says one thing but doesn't really give his whole viewpoint.
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/06/10/donald-trump-tells-pro-life-voters-im-with-you-100-we-must-protect-the-sanctity-of-life/


His stance is essentially identical to Hilary's. He says he "hates abortion" but thinks women should have a right to choose. Hilary has used similar language but maybe not the word "hate".

You are correct though.....people don't know it because they only listen to the first part of that statement then start clapping and cheering before he says the rest.

Everytime I tell someone at church that trump is pro-choice, they are shocked.......and this is a conservative church where the abortion issue is an important one.

I am personally going to have to write in my vote because all 3 candidates are pro-choice, and that's definitely the first time that's happened in my lifetime.
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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
They probably did their research but it's hard to believe this will help him. I assume he was already going to win Indiana. Maybe more of the mainstream GOP and perhaps evangelicals?
I really thought the democratic general would have been a great choice from him.
I think that would have been a horrendous choice. A lot of lifelong republicans don't trust his 'conservative' principles. Throw in a democratic general with a history of being pro-choice and I think some of the ones that would have are only voting for him because he's pro-life.....but they aren't even wholly convinced that he truly is. Picking the democratic general certainly wouldn't help that.

The reality is that vice-presidential candidates rarely move the needle much. McCain's handlers knew they were behind badly and picked Palin......which temporarily boosted numbers because people didn't know her, but once they found out his number reverted back to where they were or even below.

The reality is that the A-list candidates -- ones that the party and perhaps Trump might have wanted -- all shot down the nomination. Corker and Ernst both pulled themselves out of consideration. Trump's picks came down to all damaged goods -- Pence handled the RFRA so poorly on the national stage (regardless of your opinion on the law, he did not handle questions to him well on the national stage and the hard line conservatives basically felt he ended up bowing to pressure). Pence's approval rating is in the 40s, in some polls having a negative rating. Chris Christie's negative rating in New Jersey was through the roof -- in May of this year it had reached 64% negative to 29% positive; Newt Gingrinch is basically a political whore willing to do anything to get back in the game and the takes that came out today taped from a February meeting says as much.

http://gawker.com/newt-gingrich-has-been-talking-behind-donald-trumps-bac-1783667634
Brum, Trump is pro choice.
I know he is. You know he is. But I think quite a few of his supporters who are pro-life don't bother to read the fine print.

It's because of things like this, where he says one thing but doesn't really give his whole viewpoint.
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/06/10/donald-trump-tells-pro-life-voters-im-with-you-100-we-must-protect-the-sanctity-of-life/


His stance is essentially identical to Hilary's. He says he "hates abortion" but thinks women should have a right to choose. Hilary has used similar language but maybe not the word "hate".

You are correct though.....people don't know it because they only listen to the first part of that statement then start clapping and cheering before he says the rest.

Everytime I tell someone at church that trump is pro-choice, they are shocked.......and this is a conservative church where the abortion issue is an important one.

I am personally going to have to write in my vote because all 3 candidates are pro-choice, and that's definitely the first time that's happened in my lifetime.
Aaron, you epitomize a one issue voter.
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Media reports coming in today that it's going to be Pence.
They probably did their research but it's hard to believe this will help him. I assume he was already going to win Indiana. Maybe more of the mainstream GOP and perhaps evangelicals?
I really thought the democratic general would have been a great choice from him.
I think that would have been a horrendous choice. A lot of lifelong republicans don't trust his 'conservative' principles. Throw in a democratic general with a history of being pro-choice and I think some of the ones that would have are only voting for him because he's pro-life.....but they aren't even wholly convinced that he truly is. Picking the democratic general certainly wouldn't help that.

The reality is that vice-presidential candidates rarely move the needle much. McCain's handlers knew they were behind badly and picked Palin......which temporarily boosted numbers because people didn't know her, but once they found out his number reverted back to where they were or even below.

The reality is that the A-list candidates -- ones that the party and perhaps Trump might have wanted -- all shot down the nomination. Corker and Ernst both pulled themselves out of consideration. Trump's picks came down to all damaged goods -- Pence handled the RFRA so poorly on the national stage (regardless of your opinion on the law, he did not handle questions to him well on the national stage and the hard line conservatives basically felt he ended up bowing to pressure). Pence's approval rating is in the 40s, in some polls having a negative rating. Chris Christie's negative rating in New Jersey was through the roof -- in May of this year it had reached 64% negative to 29% positive; Newt Gingrinch is basically a political whore willing to do anything to get back in the game and the takes that came out today taped from a February meeting says as much.

http://gawker.com/newt-gingrich-has-been-talking-behind-donald-trumps-bac-1783667634
Brum, Trump is pro choice.
I know he is. You know he is. But I think quite a few of his supporters who are pro-life don't bother to read the fine print.

It's because of things like this, where he says one thing but doesn't really give his whole viewpoint.
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/06/10/donald-trump-tells-pro-life-voters-im-with-you-100-we-must-protect-the-sanctity-of-life/


His stance is essentially identical to Hilary's. He says he "hates abortion" but thinks women should have a right to choose. Hilary has used similar language but maybe not the word "hate".

You are correct though.....people don't know it because they only listen to the first part of that statement then start clapping and cheering before he says the rest.

Everytime I tell someone at church that trump is pro-choice, they are shocked.......and this is a conservative church where the abortion issue is an important one.

I am personally going to have to write in my vote because all 3 candidates are pro-choice, and that's definitely the first time that's happened in my lifetime.
Aaron, you epitomize a one issue voter.
It's an important one. It is so crystal clear that the unborn fetus is a human life, and I don't want anyone running the country who either can't see that or doesn't care about that life.
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