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The eyewitness accounts I've read said, at least the guy they saw, was decked out in tactical gear, heavily armed, and operated calmly and like this was well planned
definitely well planned from what I can tell as well...and planned over a period of time. Perhaps just waiting for the right timing?
Yeah I mean less than a day after the latest police incident(s).
And at an event where he knew there would be a lot of policeman present.

Last year, 41 officers were killed in the line of duty. Amazing to think in one city that someone killed over 10% of a yearly total.

Sad, sad day. One of the officers killed was married two weeks ago. Don't know the background of the officers, but there are surely now many children growing up without their father.
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but there are surely now many children growing up without their father.
Sadly, that's true for the vast majority of black kids growing up in our inner-cities.
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but there are surely now many children growing up without their father.
Sadly, that's true for the vast majority of black kids growing up in our inner-cities.
Kids just lost their fathers suddenly to a senseless act of violence. How about we don't minimize that by going off on some other tangent.
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329 have been killed in Chicago this year.
More than New York and LA combined!

Why doesn't BLM try marching there?

That is where it is needed!!!

Not trying to change the subject, what happened in Dallas is horrific.

Peaceful March, and yet when gunshots were heard those marching were running
away while those being protested ran toward the shooter and protected those
protesting.

Saw a video of the "New Black Panther Party" walking the street (sorry, don't remember the city)
fully armed with their weapons in full view.

They need to march in Chicago, see if they can make a change.

Sorry for the late night rant. Have a Good One!
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In terms of protest events in Chicago about neighborhood crime and black-on-black violence....those happen. All the time.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicagoans-actually-do-protest-violence-their-communities-all-time
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In terms of protest events in Chicago about neighborhood crime and black-on-black violence....those happen. All the time.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicagoans-actually-do-protest-violence-their-communities-all-time
Those demonstrations are very small. The bottom of that link shows a recent large demonstration protesting bad cops. Anyone who thinks bad cops are the main problem are in fact part of the problem.
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In terms of protest events in Chicago about neighborhood crime and black-on-black violence....those happen. All the time.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicagoans-actually-do-protest-violence-their-communities-all-time
Those demonstrations are very small. The bottom of that link shows a recent large demonstration protesting bad cops. Anyone who thinks bad cops are the main problem are in fact part of the problem.
But why can't some admit they're a problem at all?
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I can admit Bad Cops are a problem.

But in the scope of things the "inner-city" issues and Ferguson/Baltimore riots and a much larger issue.

The Cop in Minnesota really needs to be charged.
Everything I have read about the Castille guy is that he was a pretty good person.

Now while the Sterling guy didn't deserve what happened to him, I have read too much how great a father and person he was. The guy was a sex offender.
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In terms of protest events in Chicago about neighborhood crime and black-on-black violence....those happen. All the time.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicagoans-actually-do-protest-violence-their-communities-all-time
Those demonstrations are very small. The bottom of that link shows a recent large demonstration protesting bad cops. Anyone who thinks bad cops are the main problem are in fact part of the problem.
Sorry they don't fit your definition of a protest. The fact is that those protests are plentiful in Chicago. It's not the fault of the protesters that the large marchers of BLM are national news while protests of local violence are local news. Being near Chicago, I see tons of news of protests and events trying to decrease the amount of violence in Chicago. The point is that when the statement is made about there being a lack of protests on black-on-black violence in Chicago, it's simply not true. The news story I cited mentioned a few recent ones, but it's certainly not comprehensive.
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Speaking of bad police....

http://metro.co.uk/2007/10/09/sting-voted-the-worlds-worst-songwriter-255719/
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Speaking of bad police....

http://metro.co.uk/2007/10/09/sting-voted-the-worlds-worst-songwriter-255719/
I'll bet that really STUNG him when he saw that
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Speaking of bad police....

http://metro.co.uk/2007/10/09/sting-voted-the-worlds-worst-songwriter-255719/
I'll bet that really STUNG him when he saw that
He got the news in June and it ruined the rest of his sumner.
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In terms of protest events in Chicago about neighborhood crime and black-on-black violence....those happen. All the time.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicagoans-actually-do-protest-violence-their-communities-all-time
Those demonstrations are very small. The bottom of that link shows a recent large demonstration protesting bad cops. Anyone who thinks bad cops are the main problem are in fact part of the problem.
But why can't some admit they're a problem at all?
I don't know, but I'm quick to acknowledge that there are bad actors in all professions, e.g. bad cops, bad QB's, bad auto repair mechanics, and bad Indiana math teachers. Let's stick with bad Indiana math teachers. If the media, BLM, and Democrat politicians are always carping about bad teachers, is it going to make more or less people want to become teachers, and are they going to be more or less motivated? Right, we end up with less teachers who are less motivated, which means the quality of math education gets worse. It's a similar phenomenon with cops. Prosecute and fire the bad cops while focusing on the good ones, and what a good job they do for society.
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In terms of protest events in Chicago about neighborhood crime and black-on-black violence....those happen. All the time.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicagoans-actually-do-protest-violence-their-communities-all-time
Those demonstrations are very small. The bottom of that link shows a recent large demonstration protesting bad cops. Anyone who thinks bad cops are the main problem are in fact part of the problem.
But why can't some admit they're a problem at all?
I don't know, but I'm quick to acknowledge that there are bad actors in all professions, e.g. bad cops, bad QB's, bad auto repair mechanics, and bad Indiana math teachers. Let's stick with bad Indiana math teachers. If the media, BLM, and Democrat politicians are always carping about bad teachers, is it going to make more or less people want to become teachers, and are they going to be more or less motivated? Right, we end up with less teachers who are less motivated, which means the quality of math education gets worse. It's a similar phenomenon with cops. Prosecute and fire the bad cops while focusing on the good ones, and what a good job they do for society.
Not to speak for dreach, but I'm guessing he agrees with your statement mostly, but the problem is that the bad cops aren't always being fired or prosecuted as they should.
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In terms of protest events in Chicago about neighborhood crime and black-on-black violence....those happen. All the time.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20151201/downtown/chicagoans-actually-do-protest-violence-their-communities-all-time
Those demonstrations are very small. The bottom of that link shows a recent large demonstration protesting bad cops. Anyone who thinks bad cops are the main problem are in fact part of the problem.
But why can't some admit they're a problem at all?
I don't know, but I'm quick to acknowledge that there are bad actors in all professions, e.g. bad cops, bad QB's, bad auto repair mechanics, and bad Indiana math teachers. Let's stick with bad Indiana math teachers. If the media, BLM, and Democrat politicians are always carping about bad teachers, is it going to make more or less people want to become teachers, and are they going to be more or less motivated? Right, we end up with less teachers who are less motivated, which means the quality of math education gets worse. It's a similar phenomenon with cops. Prosecute and fire the bad cops while focusing on the good ones, and what a good job they do for society.
Not to speak for dreach, but I'm guessing he agrees with your statement mostly, but the problem is that the bad cops aren't always being fired or prosecuted as they should.
Right this. I've read and heard some really stupid anti-police talk recently that does nobody any good. But the root of the frustration and anger are understandable because there have been no repercussions for the bad cops.
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