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| Masterwolfie | Mar 6 2011, 12:41 AM Post #2311 |
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The Wandering Paladin
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Ridiculously strong? Oh no. Just stronger then PCs. |
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| Leb | Mar 6 2011, 12:41 AM Post #2312 |
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Master of Disguise. Possibly a Doppelgänger.
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Since we're on a fantasy setting here it's not too surprising that the NPC leaders are really super-awesome. Awesome enough to take on anyone in a 1-on-1 fight and win? Dunno since I don't have their bios here so whatever. But knowing that no leader would go anywhere without guards, and how you guys had enough trouble with pesky Imperial guards, yeah, you'd totally get wacked. Let's put it in comparison here: The NPC's are awesome enough that they've climbed all the way up to where they are right now. The PC's are a rather random bunch, we got a few demons, an old man who couldn't take any of the PC's in a fight, two kurop, a half-dragon(or is it two, who was Max's 2nd char again?), and a Tunka and... well you get the idea even if I didn't list everyone. The NPC's are on a higher level because they've worked for it, if the PC's were able to instantly take on and even win a fight with 'em well, there's a problem somewhere. In time, sure it could happen, but... well that's just my opinion. Edited by Leb, Mar 6 2011, 12:43 AM.
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| Ragnorra | Mar 6 2011, 12:43 AM Post #2313 |
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Technically I had trouble with pesky imperial cannon shots. |
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| Riffus Maximus | Mar 6 2011, 12:48 AM Post #2314 |
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Nocturu's Wind of Change
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We're in a fantasy RP, so it's normal that MOST players (excluding Leb) makes awesome strong characters. Making one surpassing them is, in fact, ridiculously strong since the PCs are borderline of being ridiculously strong themselves. I've been in a few RPs that leaders weren't necessarily super-strong, but they were often guarded by super strong guardians that were as strong as the PCs or because they were so smart that they were able to either manipulate the PCs or make 'hem fall into his tricks. When I design super strong leaders, it's only to make the PCs feel their characters are too weak and stop them from having ambitious plans, or either to encourage them ganging up on him, who would usually be the end boss or somethin' like that. Usually, the first idea is commonly used. @Leb: That's why backgrounds comes in. Some characters are more experienced, mostly shown by their age. Some have backgrounds to back their power. We're not like a D&D game where we all begin level 1. I'd say Phyronalso worked to have the power and knowledge he has know. Edited by Riffus Maximus, Mar 6 2011, 12:52 AM.
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| Ragnorra | Mar 6 2011, 12:54 AM Post #2315 |
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Gentlemen, gentlemen, let us simply settle this now. Plot armor, gg. |
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| Leb | Mar 6 2011, 12:56 AM Post #2316 |
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Master of Disguise. Possibly a Doppelgänger.
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Yes, background that YOU wrote for your character to justify your imaginary character's power. The PC's are supposed to be special individuals, even Aaron no matter how crappy we all know he is and probably will die in the next fight, but if we think that the setting we're taking part of has only the PC's as really super special individuals then... well that's just stupid, really. You got anything that would say that there's no way the NPC leaders wouldn't be stronger by some aspect than Phyron and therefore hard, if not impossible to defeat? Although there is of course the thing that this isn't a pure-combat RP, we're taking part of events laid down in front of us and we got people for and against us. Sure you can have a fit if you couldn't take on some NPC from our side, but there's probably more than enough NPC's on the enemy side who need, you know. Teamwork. Like you used last time. Also: Remember what I said I'd kill you two if you tipped off the Empire about our location? Yeah, about that... Painful death, or horrible death? I'll let you pick. Edited by Leb, Mar 6 2011, 01:03 AM.
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| Riffus Maximus | Mar 6 2011, 01:03 AM Post #2317 |
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Nocturu's Wind of Change
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I know almost any NPC can be defeated using teamwork, there's always a way to defeat someone. But my point was that it was ridiculous to compare a leader NPC to a PC, because most of the times they are made to be stronger than PCs. Hard to decide. What to decide between a long death and a short one. Hard to decide... But hell, they'll only see the cause of the smoke, the forest fire. Yeah, if they take their job really seriously, they'll do a scouting of the whole area and find the camp. Sorry for you. Edited by Riffus Maximus, Mar 6 2011, 01:07 AM.
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| Ragnorra | Mar 6 2011, 01:05 AM Post #2318 |
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I'm confused on who stands where and have determined I no longer care. It's incredibly unlikely Val is going to kill any leader npcs. She doesn't have the reasons to want to, yet. Oh and look here comes trouble. Val is gonna have to put on her dancing shoes. |
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| Leb | Mar 6 2011, 01:06 AM Post #2319 |
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Master of Disguise. Possibly a Doppelgänger.
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Well maybe they ARE stronger than you? Doesn't mean they're impossible to defeat, just that it'd be like taking on an optional boss in any videogame, you know, like Ozma in FF9 who was like the hardest damn enemy in the game, both final bosses included on that list. They got their own part in the fluff that sort of justifies why they're so awesome. You made up your own fluff to make yourself awesome. So how about we just stop talking about this, because it's obvious we're not going to go anywhere and I think we got more important things to worry about. Like getting us all killed. Thanks for that, by the way. |
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| Masterwolfie | Mar 6 2011, 01:09 AM Post #2320 |
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The Wandering Paladin
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You don't enter a story based rp to be stronger then all the npcs, you enter to take part in the story. |
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| Riffus Maximus | Mar 6 2011, 01:09 AM Post #2321 |
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Nocturu's Wind of Change
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You're welcome. I always dreamt of ruining a whole RP by my actions. And yes, I'd be glad to stop talking about this. I see no point of continuing when I said what I had to say. Hard to tell if it is a story-based RP when you get one huge fight in the first part of the RP... Edited by Riffus Maximus, Mar 6 2011, 01:10 AM.
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| Masterwolfie | Mar 6 2011, 01:10 AM Post #2322 |
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Yeah I will finish it. You can't beat any Leader npcs alone. Case closed. If it wasn't an story based rp then we be fighting each other now and Wolfie's sword will be in somebody's gut. Edited by Masterwolfie, Mar 6 2011, 01:11 AM.
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| Ragnorra | Mar 6 2011, 01:11 AM Post #2323 |
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The answer is to dress Phyron up in women's lingerie. This will kill everyone. |
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| Leb | Mar 6 2011, 01:13 AM Post #2324 |
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Master of Disguise. Possibly a Doppelgänger.
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Dude, this is a story of a war in an imaginary world taking place. Did you expect we'd be RP'ing as generals and get numbers and statistics run to us while we move little playthings on a huge map to wage war in perfect safety? Hell no, we joined this RP to blow things up, do insanely awesome stunts and generally play part and leave our mark in the history of this world, with our FISTS. Edited by Leb, Mar 6 2011, 01:14 AM.
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| Ragnorra | Mar 6 2011, 01:16 AM Post #2325 |
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I prefer to uses swords and carve y name n the landscape but that's another character entirely. Gentlemen, the plot armor has spoken. Now then... Can we put on our dancing shoes and watch me save the day? |
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