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Legends of Kaethos OOC
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Riffus Maximus Feb 6 2012, 07:40 PM Post #6991
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Basically, the only thing I can think of Demons' society is that they fight themselves when the King is no more to get the strongest as King. Think of it as either a tradition or something llike that.

But because of the Firelord's pact, they are more aggressive and more violent, which lead to infightings even with a King on the throne, fightings that only the King could put a stop to. Not that they are completly mindless, it's just that their ways are so violent that it often leads to bloodshed.

There probably wouldn't have infightings if the Firelord's pact influence the Demons no more. Heck, if they think hard enough of their ways and try to be less conservative about their violent ways, they might even get a proper monarchy or something more peaceful. Probably something that will happen with the Kaethonian Demons because some begin to lose the influence of the Firelord's Pact and are living with other races, which leads to a questionning of one's ways to finally find peace after centuries of being locked in a hell pit.

I wonder how it's like with the Demons outside the Charred Valley that Alistair is leading. That's something I'd like to have Phyron learn if we ever get out of this whole mess alive. Probably giving Phyron an opportunity to learn from other Demons before returning to the Valley.

My whole theory in short, and that's also how Phyron is thinking of the old Demons' society. He doesn't know that the Firelord's pact is causing the rage, but he's thinking of how Demons could be within the rest of Kaethos if they were less violent and more self-aware.
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Masterwolfie Feb 6 2012, 07:57 PM Post #6992
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That's a very good view on it Shadow. If I wasn't the one who created Kaethos I would agree with you more.
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Leb Feb 6 2012, 08:02 PM Post #6993
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READ YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
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Masterwolfie Feb 6 2012, 08:08 PM Post #6994
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I have and I'm adding an extra bit at the beginning or it wouldn't make sense for Wolfie just to jump from one place to another.
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Right. I wasn't sure if you had read it or not since you hadn't replied.
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Ragnorra Feb 6 2012, 10:40 PM Post #6996
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I never had reason to think about it much until now.

Why would the fire pact make them MORE aggressive? That's the opposite of what was stated. It literally says they made the pact to get away from the influence of the God of War. That's like saying I want to stop being aggressive, so I start taking steroids.

Like the demons being aggressive brutes really just makes me think they are shadow orcs honestly. It's a little disappointing. I mean the greatest empire of the shadow world is just a million man horde of irritable thugs.
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Masterwolfie Feb 6 2012, 11:12 PM Post #6997
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They got away from the influence of a known god to fall sways into an unknown entity. My orginial idea is that a Fire can become uncontrollable the larger it becomes. The more magic a demon uses given by the fire lord pact, the more uncontrollable one become. Sending them in a blinding rage.

Besides they didn't know what they were getting themselves into.

Well thats the idea. But this is dangerously going into the Elemental lords area which has no part in this series at all.
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Ragnorra Feb 6 2012, 11:39 PM Post #6998
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So... The demons are kinda stupid. Not that I'm that shocked. It's a tribal based society made by a deity of war who made a pact with an entity which evidently just made it worse. Well no wonder the demons rely on magic. They're probably no more advanced than the Huns. Just an enormous ravening horde with a hair trigger temper. So... Shadow orcs.

Either way though they still are fidgety. As beings designed to fight and kill by their very nature they are probably pretty hyperactive. They need the energy to keep fighting.
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Masterwolfie Feb 7 2012, 12:29 AM Post #6999
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Not exactly. A small flame can be controlled but either way, the demon king is what made the empire. The demon empire. It's not like the Elderon empire. The Demon empire is like the mongol horde. United under one leader who has serious mental strength thanks to the influence of the titans. If you ask me the current Demon King has issues. But thats what happens when you allow the titans get under your skin.

But I wouldn't argue regarding demons being stupid. I can say the God of War had the idea of fighting fire with fire against the Garitia but they became useless when the Kurop entered the fray. But at the end of the day demons are like related to Garitia which is why they are called cousins. They are really the gods version of the Garitia but an answer to the dragons.

Some mixed information going around at the moment. But its something I can't iron out. Anyway I suggest rereading the Balance entry. Where I try and explain the idea of the Balance of creation which the Kurop uphold from a simple idea to the complex one that exists in the Dark ages. The demons have a role in it as well.

http://s15.zetaboards.com/Paxian_PF/single/?p=8052587&t=6894883

EDIT: Here I'm waiting for Shadow and rag to answer a pm. Then I noticed I haven't pmed them in the first place. I swear I did... I'm losing it.
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Ragnorra Feb 7 2012, 12:38 AM Post #7000
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Oh lord haha. Well look on the bright side, you're starting to get something out of Val that isn't misery related heh.

Also, they certainly aren't bright. Which is a shame. It likely means that instead the ebon elves are guerrilla fighters in the mushroom forests. there wouldn't be enough light for plants to easily thrive except by bio luminescent fungi perhaps. Fungus would be way more common. Between their transformative magic and their poison and drug wielding they probably are trying to hold out against a number of creatures that are endless and born to destroy.

Likely they are treated no different than the Garitia to the Ebon elves. Chances are some of the Ebon Elves fled to Kaethos to escape from the endless fighting and retreating that they had to do. But in the end they were no better off as they ended up in the civil war.

Though it's interesting to note in the civil war the ebon elves were the only group who's population GREW by the aftermath.
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Masterwolfie Feb 7 2012, 12:47 AM Post #7001
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That is because I pulled a retcon for the sake of progress. Projection theory. It was an old and discarded idea for how the Guardians can communicate across distances. But hell brought it back just for Val.
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Or she just used powerful mental powers with aide from Wolfie to... I dunno pull a fraction of her spark there to communicate. Hardly matters either way.
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Masterwolfie Feb 7 2012, 01:22 AM Post #7003
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That's the bases of it. The eyes are an indicator if ones using the theory. She is using her mental power, which is impressive naturally for being a powerful necromancer. Her form and connection is being sustained by Wolfie though.

Kind of pissed off. I'm sure I pmed you guys before, I pmed Shadow anyway and I shall get to you rag tomorrow morning. As I don't want to blow the whole. No misery talk.
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That's what falling asleep while thinking of doing something does.
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Alright. Well maybe it means Feint can play with Phyron soon hehe.
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