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Day 3: A Space Man Dies; You must read the original post to find out who's dead this time!
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Isaac Dian
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Baccano!
Isaac Dian
Oct 27 2016, 12:39 AM
Mimi
Oct 27 2016, 12:00 AM
Town, we cannot win like this. It just wont happen. Especially because unless the mods went with a custom set-up, having a Faith healer could mean we lack a cop altogether.
So unless we are all active and assisting investigation we are completely boned. Heck, I think as a whole from the beginning we should all have just assumed we have no cop.


Regarding the number of special Townies, we started out with 11 Townies and we know there were 2 healers. Personally I think that a 2:9 ratio of special to vanilla is extremely low and it's likey that 1 or 2 more people have powers. I'd guess that our cop so far hasn't found anything useful, or that we have a special Townie with a different power.
Double checked the rules, it's explicitly stated that there are/were 8 vanilla Townies, which means that there were three Townies with power roles. With two faith healers, someone else out there has one different power.
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Dr. Tenma
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Mimi
Oct 27 2016, 09:26 AM
Mmm, yes, this looks like fun.

Vote lynch: Dr. Tenmon

Weevil is definitely low-hanging fruit in terms of activity and contribution and I'm surprised you poked so much at Lelouch for doing that with Guilmon and then go and do the same. On day 3.
Will you be as stubborn as Lelouch? I wonder...

I thought you understood my points against Lelouch, you'll have to explain to me how the situations are comparable but in case it wasn't clear Weevil has been flying under the radar lately and I've had my eye on him for a while, I'm not going to let him finally walk in to say "what's a faith healer and btw I don't have time to offer insight." We have a lot of time in the day and only 2 votes so far so I don't understand the problem.
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Mimi
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Flying under the radar doesn't mean anything if more than a couple of players have been doing so. Has no one but myself noticed the distinct lack of Kira, the person who began the wagon yesterday? (I really am hoping I didn't miss out on a previous page or I'll look so stupid. I have admittedly not been paying too close attention today)

Why him in particular over other players that have done the same over time? Isnt Kakashi in the same exact boat? Why does this one merit a lynch?
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Edward Weevil
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Dr. Tenma
Oct 27 2016, 09:23 AM
Edward Weevil
Oct 27 2016, 06:50 AM
We lost faith keeper i still dont knoe how this role works
issac and kakashi are my suspects i need more reading and reading needs time something i dont have for now

A faith healer is a doctor that only has a 50% chance of success I don't know how you could possibly be unaware of this since not only is it in the link on the rules thread but it's also literally in Dandy's flip from today so at best you're a townie that's barely even playing the game but at worst and rather likely in my opinion you're mafia who never took the time to care about the details, either way if you want to be useful to the town you need to step up your game even if you're busy you should be able to do better.

Vote Lynch: Edward Weevil

Sorry everyone i'm totally aware that this isn't exactly breaking our current lynch pattern but i can't in good conscience let this slide, definitely also waiting for Lelouch to reply to Isaac though and see where that back and forth goes, but i feel like I've said enough regarding Lelouch right now anyway.
I mean how 50% works mods arent bot if both targetted same person will it be 50% for each or 100% total
The thing is my only active suspect is issac my other suspects are kakashi and astro boy
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Dr. Tenma
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Mimi
Oct 27 2016, 09:46 AM
Flying under the radar doesn't mean anything if more than a couple of players have been doing so. Has no one but myself noticed the distinct lack of Kira, the person who began the wagon yesterday? (I really am hoping I didn't miss out on a previous page or I'll look so stupid. I have admittedly not been paying too close attention today)

Why him in particular over other players that have done the same over time? Isnt Kakashi in the same exact boat? Why does this one merit a lynch?

Him in particular because unlike everyone else he came in on day 3 with a post that demonstrates a gross negligence of even the basics of the setup and today flip and a refusal to contribute in any way. Yes of course Kira missing is concerning and earlier I believe I already pointed out that his vote was one of the ones I found more questionable along with Claire's but really if you're going to compare me to Lelouch then voting Kira right now would be the exact same thing he did, going for a no-show early in the day. Kakashi is far from excused for his behavior but at the very least he promised earnest activity in the near future so he'll need to make good on that.

Edward Weevil
Oct 27 2016, 09:47 AM
I mean how 50% works mods arent bot if both targetted same person will it be 50% for each or 100% total
The thing is my only active suspect is issac my other suspects are kakashi and astro boy

If both healers target the same player it becomes 0% again this information is right there in Dandy's flip... and okay thanks for stating your suspects can you maybe at least give a reason why for each?
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Hinata Hyuga
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With 10 players left, it takes 6 to lynch.

Isaac Dian (1): Lelouch vi Britannia
Lelouch vi Britannia (1): Isaac Dian
Edward Weevil (1): Dr. Tenma
Dr. Tenma (1): Mimi

Not Voting (6): Astro Boy, Claire Stanfield, Edward Weevil, Kakashi Hatake, Yoshikage Kira, Yuuki Rito

You have 36 hours left in the Day.
Edited by Hinata Hyuga, Oct 27 2016, 10:29 AM.
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Mimi
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Dr. Tenma
Oct 27 2016, 09:55 AM
Him in particular because unlike everyone else he came in on day 3 with a post that demonstrates a gross negligence of even the basics of the setup and today flip and a refusal to contribute in any way. Yes of course Kira missing is concerning and earlier I believe I already pointed out that his vote was one of the ones I found more questionable along with Claire's but really if you're going to compare me to Lelouch then voting Kira right now would be the exact same thing he did, going for a no-show early in the day. Kakashi is far from excused for his behavior but at the very least he promised earnest activity in the near future so he'll need to make good on that.
Lelouch's main gripe has always been inactivity as far as I can tell, hence my comparison to it since the gross negligence you speak of is to me rather minor compared to the actual inactivity and uselessness situation.

Do you think grossly misunderstanding power roles is something of consequence that requires punishment by lynch?
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Claire Stanfield
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Sakuragi flipping town made me pretty angry. I don't understand why he didn't even bother to defend himself. At least for me his absence is what sealed his fate. So there's another reason to speak up and play this game if anybody still needs it.

And then Dandy was killed. I'm sadder about the loss of the player than the ability but neither is great, obviously.

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@Kira, Claire: Both of you started the Sakuragi wagon rather early for reasons involving lack of actually helping in any way, but then didn't seem to respond at all to Yuuki expressing more blatant uselessness. What do you have to say about that?
I was focused on Sakuragi at the time. I wanted him to respond and did not feel the need to pursue anybody else until that had happened. Maybe not the smartest choice considering he never came back. I also don't agree that Yuuki expressed more blatant uselessness. Do you have a particular post in mind?

About Lelouch's defense/his misunderstanding of Tenma's post. I'm on board if only because I had trouble myself understanding what everybody had been talking about. I got there eventually. In adition to that his overall tone just rings true to me. He seems frustrated about appearing scummy due to a misunderstanding.

I asked this yesterday but I'll repeat it here:

Claire
 
(...) But wouldn't mafia Lelouch have gone after an easier target if his goal was just to get somebody (mis)lynched? Astroboy who was barely around at the time, for example?
Maybe that came off as a rhetorical question now that I look at it. It wasn't. Dr. Tenma, Kira, Yuuki, what do you think?

Another question for Mimi and Dr. Tenma: The two of you switched your votes from Lelouch to Sakuragi when it became unlikely that Lelouch would get lynched. If it had been up to you, would you have preferred the Lelouch lynch?

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Edward Weevil
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Dr. Tenma
Oct 27 2016, 09:55 AM
Mimi
Oct 27 2016, 09:46 AM
Flying under the radar doesn't mean anything if more than a couple of players have been doing so. Has no one but myself noticed the distinct lack of Kira, the person who began the wagon yesterday? (I really am hoping I didn't miss out on a previous page or I'll look so stupid. I have admittedly not been paying too close attention today)

Why him in particular over other players that have done the same over time? Isnt Kakashi in the same exact boat? Why does this one merit a lynch?

Him in particular because unlike everyone else he came in on day 3 with a post that demonstrates a gross negligence of even the basics of the setup and today flip and a refusal to contribute in any way. Yes of course Kira missing is concerning and earlier I believe I already pointed out that his vote was one of the ones I found more questionable along with Claire's but really if you're going to compare me to Lelouch then voting Kira right now would be the exact same thing he did, going for a no-show early in the day. Kakashi is far from excused for his behavior but at the very least he promised earnest activity in the near future so he'll need to make good on that.

Edward Weevil
Oct 27 2016, 09:47 AM
I mean how 50% works mods arent bot if both targetted same person will it be 50% for each or 100% total
The thing is my only active suspect is issac my other suspects are kakashi and astro boy

If both healers target the same player it becomes 0% again this information is right there in Dandy's flip... and okay thanks for stating your suspects can you maybe at least give a reason why for each?
Issac is mostly gut feeling kakashi for day 1 thing astro boy for not being active and something else
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Claire Stanfield
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*resists the urge to start a fifth wagon*

Aaanyway. I'm not sure how useful analyizing the setup is even now that a power role has flipped. There's a nice little caveat that mentions modifications. And we have been scum hunting without waiting for reports.
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