Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to Politics R Us. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are restricted from some sections. Register now to have full access. Email verification is required.


REGISTER NOW!




If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features. If you are having difficulties, send an email to "beddows1@telus.net"

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
California Gas and Diesel Reduction; This should cause a bit of a stir!
Topic Started: Jul 30 2015, 03:42 PM (546 Views)
wanderingjays
Member Avatar

Tell me about it. I spent 27 grand on new efficient things,HVAC , windows , insulation ETC
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
jcapps

So Neil what are you doing to cut your usage and your carbon footprint I've asked you but you haven't answered yet you're telling me I need to do more what are you doing
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
campingken

WJ,

Imagine what your bill would have been without the upgrades that you made.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mountainrivers

jcapps
Jul 31 2015, 03:32 PM
So Neil what are you doing to cut your usage and your carbon footprint I've asked you but you haven't answered yet you're telling me I need to do more what are you doing
Like many others, I have converted all my light bulbs to the energy efficient type. I drive a fuel efficient vehicle and don't drive that much. I live in a small town and can walk everywhere I need to go. I keep my thermostat at 74 degrees in the summer and 68 in the winter. I'm 74 years old and converting to a different HVAC system wouldn't be profitable. Besides, we don't have any smog or pollution here. What we do have is a lot of spraying of pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers, but that won't change because the farmers need those things and they have the power in Nebraska. You have the option of leaving California if you don't like the rules and regulations. We don't have those here.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
jcapps

Mountainrivers
Jul 31 2015, 06:26 PM
jcapps
Jul 31 2015, 03:32 PM
So Neil what are you doing to cut your usage and your carbon footprint I've asked you but you haven't answered yet you're telling me I need to do more what are you doing
Like many others, I have converted all my light bulbs to the energy efficient type. I drive a fuel efficient vehicle and don't drive that much. I live in a small town and can walk everywhere I need to go. I keep my thermostat at 74 degrees in the summer and 68 in the winter. I'm 74 years old and converting to a different HVAC system wouldn't be profitable. Besides, we don't have any smog or pollution here. What we do have is a lot of spraying of pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers, but that won't change because the farmers need those things and they have the power in Nebraska. You have the option of leaving California if you don't like the rules and regulations. We don't have those here.
A volvo is fuel efficient? I keep my thermostat at 80 in the summer, wear a sweater in the winter

Point is you think the rules are great when you have no dog in the fight. And do not make any worthy attempt to conserve
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
corky

jcapps,
Give MR a break, he's old and changes he makes would do little, wouldn't have long to take effect. I might suggest he shoulder the cost of making the changes for a young family if he is wanting to put his money where is mouth is.

We have a program where older folks can help younger commuters convert to CNG, better way to cut sequestrated carbon emissions. The program seems to be doing some good, about 200 cars converter that would not have otherwise.

Corky
Edited by corky, Aug 2 2015, 07:29 PM.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
jcapps

You make a valid point point. I hope MR makes the effort to do that. I just dislike when people tell me to shut up or move when they make no effort.
California leads the world in conservation
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mountainrivers

jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 05:20 AM
You make a valid point point. I hope MR makes the effort to do that. I just dislike when people tell me to shut up or move when they make no effort.
California leads the world in conservation
I didn't tell anyone to shut up, but there are alternatives if you don't like what's happening where you are. I can't afford to live in California, although I like it there, so I live in Nebraska, where I don't have to live with the kinds of things you're complaining about. You probably have more people in your neighborhood than we have in all of Nebraska, so we aren't faced with the kinds of problems you are, due to the very large population there. Some of us complain that others bitch that some people are for anything unless it affects them personally. Well, this is one of those things. Don't be a hypocrite.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mountainrivers

corky
Aug 2 2015, 07:28 PM
jcapps,
Give MR a break, he's old and changes he makes would do little, wouldn't have long to take effect. I might suggest he shoulder the cost of making the changes for a young family if he is wanting to put his money where is mouth is.

We have a program where older folks can help younger commuters convert to CNG, better way to cut sequestrated carbon emissions. The program seems to be doing some good, about 200 cars converter that would not have otherwise.

Corky
Ah! A little hypocrisy eh? Do it if it doesn't affect me, and if it doesn't, I don't care. &7
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
jcapps

Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:06 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 05:20 AM
You make a valid point point. I hope MR makes the effort to do that. I just dislike when people tell me to shut up or move when they make no effort.
California leads the world in conservation
I didn't tell anyone to shut up, but there are alternatives if you don't like what's happening where you are. I can't afford to live in California, although I like it there, so I live in Nebraska, where I don't have to live with the kinds of things you're complaining about. You probably have more people in your neighborhood than we have in all of Nebraska, so we aren't faced with the kinds of problems you are, due to the very large population there. Some of us complain that others bitch that some people are for anything unless it affects them personally. Well, this is one of those things. Don't be a hypocrite.
You told me I should sacrifice more or move when you do nothing......hypocrite?
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mountainrivers

jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 06:39 AM
Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:06 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 05:20 AM
You make a valid point point. I hope MR makes the effort to do that. I just dislike when people tell me to shut up or move when they make no effort.
California leads the world in conservation
I didn't tell anyone to shut up, but there are alternatives if you don't like what's happening where you are. I can't afford to live in California, although I like it there, so I live in Nebraska, where I don't have to live with the kinds of things you're complaining about. You probably have more people in your neighborhood than we have in all of Nebraska, so we aren't faced with the kinds of problems you are, due to the very large population there. Some of us complain that others bitch that some people are for anything unless it affects them personally. Well, this is one of those things. Don't be a hypocrite.
You told me I should sacrifice more or move when you do nothing......hypocrite?
If I needed to do more than I do, I would. You have no idea what the situation is in Nebraska that I would need to change my behavior, so calling me a hypocrite is just sour grapes. You don't like what's happening in California, do something to change it.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
jcapps

Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:51 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 06:39 AM
Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:06 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 05:20 AM
You make a valid point point. I hope MR makes the effort to do that. I just dislike when people tell me to shut up or move when they make no effort.
California leads the world in conservation
I didn't tell anyone to shut up, but there are alternatives if you don't like what's happening where you are. I can't afford to live in California, although I like it there, so I live in Nebraska, where I don't have to live with the kinds of things you're complaining about. You probably have more people in your neighborhood than we have in all of Nebraska, so we aren't faced with the kinds of problems you are, due to the very large population there. Some of us complain that others bitch that some people are for anything unless it affects them personally. Well, this is one of those things. Don't be a hypocrite.
You told me I should sacrifice more or move when you do nothing......hypocrite?
If I needed to do more than I do, I would. You have no idea what the situation is in Nebraska that I would need to change my behavior, so calling me a hypocrite is just sour grapes. You don't like what's happening in California, do something to change it.
You do need to do something. You think cause you live in the middle of nowhere its ok to be wasteful? Everyone needs to cut back. Stop our dependence on foreign oil. Stop wasting electricity and oil. Do not tell me that you do not have to do anything
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mountainrivers

jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 07:25 AM
Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:51 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 06:39 AM
Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:06 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 05:20 AM
You make a valid point point. I hope MR makes the effort to do that. I just dislike when people tell me to shut up or move when they make no effort.
California leads the world in conservation
I didn't tell anyone to shut up, but there are alternatives if you don't like what's happening where you are. I can't afford to live in California, although I like it there, so I live in Nebraska, where I don't have to live with the kinds of things you're complaining about. You probably have more people in your neighborhood than we have in all of Nebraska, so we aren't faced with the kinds of problems you are, due to the very large population there. Some of us complain that others bitch that some people are for anything unless it affects them personally. Well, this is one of those things. Don't be a hypocrite.
You told me I should sacrifice more or move when you do nothing......hypocrite?
If I needed to do more than I do, I would. You have no idea what the situation is in Nebraska that I would need to change my behavior, so calling me a hypocrite is just sour grapes. You don't like what's happening in California, do something to change it.
You do need to do something. You think cause you live in the middle of nowhere its ok to be wasteful? Everyone needs to cut back. Stop our dependence on foreign oil. Stop wasting electricity and oil. Do not tell me that you do not have to do anything
I do what is required in Nebraska. You should do what's required in California and you make an unsupported allegation that I'm being wasteful.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
jcapps

Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 07:41 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 07:25 AM
Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:51 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 06:39 AM
Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:06 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 05:20 AM
You make a valid point point. I hope MR makes the effort to do that. I just dislike when people tell me to shut up or move when they make no effort.
California leads the world in conservation
I didn't tell anyone to shut up, but there are alternatives if you don't like what's happening where you are. I can't afford to live in California, although I like it there, so I live in Nebraska, where I don't have to live with the kinds of things you're complaining about. You probably have more people in your neighborhood than we have in all of Nebraska, so we aren't faced with the kinds of problems you are, due to the very large population there. Some of us complain that others bitch that some people are for anything unless it affects them personally. Well, this is one of those things. Don't be a hypocrite.
You told me I should sacrifice more or move when you do nothing......hypocrite?
If I needed to do more than I do, I would. You have no idea what the situation is in Nebraska that I would need to change my behavior, so calling me a hypocrite is just sour grapes. You don't like what's happening in California, do something to change it.
You do need to do something. You think cause you live in the middle of nowhere its ok to be wasteful? Everyone needs to cut back. Stop our dependence on foreign oil. Stop wasting electricity and oil. Do not tell me that you do not have to do anything
I do what is required in Nebraska. You should do what's required in California and you make an unsupported allegation that I'm being wasteful.
but you are wasteful. We all live in the US, we should all conserve equally. I think you should install a solar photovoltaic system on your home like I do......before you tell me I should not complain because CA wants to cut gas use even further.

I make an effort, a real effort. I did not just install low power use bulbs......lol
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Mountainrivers

jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 08:00 AM
Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 07:41 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 07:25 AM
Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:51 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 06:39 AM
Mountainrivers
Aug 3 2015, 06:06 AM
jcapps
Aug 3 2015, 05:20 AM
You make a valid point point. I hope MR makes the effort to do that. I just dislike when people tell me to shut up or move when they make no effort.
California leads the world in conservation
I didn't tell anyone to shut up, but there are alternatives if you don't like what's happening where you are. I can't afford to live in California, although I like it there, so I live in Nebraska, where I don't have to live with the kinds of things you're complaining about. You probably have more people in your neighborhood than we have in all of Nebraska, so we aren't faced with the kinds of problems you are, due to the very large population there. Some of us complain that others bitch that some people are for anything unless it affects them personally. Well, this is one of those things. Don't be a hypocrite.
You told me I should sacrifice more or move when you do nothing......hypocrite?
If I needed to do more than I do, I would. You have no idea what the situation is in Nebraska that I would need to change my behavior, so calling me a hypocrite is just sour grapes. You don't like what's happening in California, do something to change it.
You do need to do something. You think cause you live in the middle of nowhere its ok to be wasteful? Everyone needs to cut back. Stop our dependence on foreign oil. Stop wasting electricity and oil. Do not tell me that you do not have to do anything
I do what is required in Nebraska. You should do what's required in California and you make an unsupported allegation that I'm being wasteful.
but you are wasteful. We all live in the US, we should all conserve equally. I think you should install a solar photovoltaic system on your home like I do......before you tell me I should not complain because CA wants to cut gas use even further.

I make an effort, a real effort. I did not just install low power use bulbs......lol
I'll be glad to install that system on my house if you will pay for it. I can't afford one. Okay, go ahead and complain.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Join the millions that use us for their forum communities. Create your own forum today.
Learn More · Sign-up for Free
Go to Next Page
« Previous Topic · General Discussion · Next Topic »
Add Reply