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| Constitutional Amendment #1; An amendment to Article III of the Constitution. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 29 2018, 02:34 AM (427 Views) | |
| Caesar | Jun 29 2018, 02:34 AM Post #1 |
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Deputy Grand Councillor
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Constitutional Amendment #1 An amendment to Article III of the Constitution. Authored by: Assembly Member Caesar Emperor Emeritus Cognat I D'Vhakk Proposed by: Assembly Member Caesar Foreword The purpose of this proposal to the members of the Assembly is to amend and re-enact the sections and provisions under Article III of the Constitution currently titled "The Citizens' Assembly". All additions and subtractions from the original sections and provisions of this Article are subject to change if given a legitimate reason on the Assembly Floor. Article III of the Constitution of The Ragerian Imperium shall be amended to read as such, be it enacted by the legislature of the region: ARTICLE III -
Additional Information Under current law, the Legislature is too specified in what sorts of legislation they are deemed to propose as evident in Sections 2 through 5. New law enacts that the Legislature, both Assembly and Senate, will have the power to legislate whatever they will be it acts of war, crimes and punishments, citizenship regulations, etc. Under current law, the Assembly is the only legislative body in the region. New law enacts that there shall now be an elected body of citizens known as the Senate. The system intended to be created through the Senate is one of checks and balances instead of legislative hierarchy. Instead of a bill going in a linear direction from Assembly to Senate to Sovereign, or from Senate to Sovereign, the bill will go in an nonlinear direction. New Law enacts the system that if the Assembly passes a bill, it then goes to the Senate who then vote on it and deliver it to the Sovereign among passing. New law also enacts that if a bill is started in the Senate, it is to pass a vote in the Assembly in the same manner as previously stated. Under current law, there is no set system determining the fate of a bill that fails assent. New law enacts that if a bill is denied assent, it is sent back to the house that delivered it, be it the Assembly or the Senate, for revisions and another vote. This does not conflict with the provisions of Section 5 in Article 1 of the Constitution which states that bills that fail assent can be "either" thrown away "or" rewritten. New law establishes the way legislation is to be rewritten so as to save potential bills that could prove useful in the future. Under current law, there are standard electoral procedures determining the election of Speakers for the Assembly and the Senate. New law enacts and upholds this standard procedure and leaves open any additional form of electoral procedure and regulation such as special elections, sudden resignations, impeachment procedure, and term lengths for Senators to be passed in laws separate of the Constitution. Under current law, votes require 3/4 percent of total votes of impeachment to pass. New law enacts that the required percentage will be 2/3 for an impeachment vote to pass so as to assure a reasonable chance that an official who should be removed from office is removed. Under current law, votes for standard bills and legislation require a "simple majority" of "50% plus 1" in order to pass. New law amends and enacts the reduction of the "simple" majority to the majority vote. For a bill to pass or fail, either side simply needs more than 50% of the total votes, be it 51%, 52%, etc. The Additional Information section is not a part of the proposed bill and, if made into law, shall not be included in the revisions. Edited by Caesar, Jul 3 2018, 10:32 PM.
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| Caesar | Jul 3 2018, 10:25 PM Post #41 |
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Madeline, I have taken your suggestions into consideration and decided that they can be written in. I will edit the wording in your suggestions since you seem to be aiming for clarity. In that case I shall provide your clarity with even more by subtracting some words yet keeping the suggestions near identical. Thank you for the suggestions and thank you Vult for understanding the beauty of simplicity. |
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| The Honorable Aav Verinhall | Jul 4 2018, 03:36 AM Post #42 |
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Chief Justicar
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You should change Voting Desk to "the Area for Votes to be Tallied" or similar. Enacting constitutional law that depends on a forum section name? I don't think that's a good plan. |
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| Madeline | Jul 4 2018, 05:36 PM Post #43 |
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The Voting Desk is where votes on proposals go. Considering you’ve been here awhile I would have assumed you understood that. It isn’t dependent on a forum name, it is dictating where actual votes go. Mr. Caesar could have made it the Magical Pony Lands of Rageria. Making where votes occur vague is poor in thought and in practice as it ruins the expected consistency when bringing proposals to vote. Without a specified area the Speaker could have votes occur in the Palace or the Citizenship Applications or just on the discord with a vague summary of what occurred. |
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| Caesar | Jul 4 2018, 07:19 PM Post #44 |
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Deputy Grand Councillor
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I simply changed the name from "ballot box" to "Voting Desk" since, per forum organization, that is where bills go to vote. The only downside of this is that if one wanted to change the name of the Voting Desk to say Magical Pony Lands of Rageria, they would have to amend that area of the Constitution first. But seeing our activity as of recent, I do not see that possibility playing out in the future and have deemed the name change not only legally safe but appropriate given there is no place in the Assembly on the forum which even refers to a ballot box. Though I enjoy the minuscule suggestions you have to offer, I would appreciate a higher level of understanding and contribution as a name change is far too simple to argue about and far too simple to misunderstand. Given what Madeline has said, I have to agree. Given your tenure, I would have assumed you would have had this down already. |
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| Madeline | Jul 5 2018, 09:19 PM Post #45 |
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If there are no other qualms with this amendment that have not been addressed, I would like to motion a vote. |
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| Caesar | Jul 6 2018, 01:53 AM Post #46 |
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Deputy Grand Councillor
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I second this motion. |
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| Eli Hesial | Jul 6 2018, 11:36 AM Post #47 |
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Wait, shouldn't the creator of the bill just not motion, as it would be already implied he would motion it? |
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| His Imperial Highness, Scottie | Jul 6 2018, 04:28 PM Post #48 |
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I also second the motion. (In the case that Caesar can't or whatever it is that Eli said.) |
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| His Imperial Highness, Vulturret | Jul 6 2018, 04:55 PM Post #49 |
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Unstoppable Force
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Your motions and seconds are noticed. Please note that while it is the responsibility of the Speaker to bring this to vote, I will be working very closely with the Speaker to make sure it is done correctly. Thank you for your patience. |
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