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The Civil Service and Employment Act; An Act to Legalize and Encourage Citizen Activity within the Government.
Topic Started: Jul 4 2018, 06:42 PM (58 Views)
Madeline
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The Civil Service and Employment Act
 


The Civil Service and Employment Act

An Act to legalize and encourage direct citizen involvement within the branches of government.

Authored By:
Grand Councillor Madeline Flavius
Proposed By:
Grand Councillor Madeline Flavius


Definitions

For the Purpose of this Act, the following shall be defined as follows:
  1. I. A citizen is an individual who holds a nation within Ragerium Imperium, a validated forum account, and accepted citizenship application.
  2. II. A non-citizen is an individual who lacks a nation within Ragerium Imperium, a validated forum account, accepted citizenship application, or a combination of these subject to alternate laws of the region.


Provisions

  1. I. There shall exist a Civil Service and Employment to work with the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government in addition to the Sovereign.

    1. A. Applications into individual departments shall be created and maintained by the respective members of government and the Sovereign.

      1. i. Applications are subject to acceptance or denial at the discretion of the respective government member or Sovereign.

      2. ii. All citizens are eligible for application into the Civil Service.

      3. iii. All non-citizens are not eligible for application into the Civil Service.


      1. B. All actions which members of the Civil Service conduct shall be done without the influences of personal or political gain.

      2. C. Members of the Civil Service are volunteer only.

      3. D. Members of the Civil Service shall be responsible for completing various tasks given by the Sovereign and the respective government member.

        1. i. Members shall be given the appropriate permissions to carry out their tasks.


      4. E. Members of the Civil Service may be removed from their respective positions at any time with given reasoning.

      5. F. Citizens may not be hindered from serving in the Civil Service unless given order by the Sovereign or a Court Mandate.

Edited by Madeline, Jul 4 2018, 06:57 PM.
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Madeline
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This Bill has been up for 48 hours without a single post.

Before I motion to vote I'd like to push more the fact that this proposal is open for discussion and any issues or concerns should be addressed please.
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Eli Hesial
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Can you explain why this is needed and some points?

What are they supposed to do in this post?

Do we have the numbers for this?
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Eli Hesial
Jul 6 2018, 05:17 PM
Can you explain why this is needed and some points?

What are they supposed to do in this post?

Do we have the numbers for this?
1. This is needed so that legally citizens may work within the government and be allowed potentially sensitive information that arises while working in government, without being forced to hinder their abilities to get things done because they are not "authorized" to know things.

2. What do you mean what are they supposed to do in this post?

3. You don't need numbers to legalize citizen involvement in government. We have it now without any regulation or recognition that it exists. This allows citizens to recruit/integrate, represent TRI as ambassadors, work with the WA councillor on votes and proposals, the Speaker to have secretaries or archivists if the Speaker feels the need for extra hands, which ensures the admins don't have to fly in and save the day whenever someone runs behind in their governmental capacity.
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Eli Hesial
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So, this is just about creating lower jobs for high ranking government officials?
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Caesar
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From my viewpoint it seems to create lower jobs for citizens only which are monitored by government officials. Unfortunately Madeline, though you insist on legally binding that the volunteer program shall not be used for personal or political gain, I fear that is exactly what it will be used for by government officials who let the simple title boil over their ego. What could be a temporary fix would be to give the volunteers the ability to say no to a task upon suspicion of it being for personal or political gain.
Edited by Caesar, Jul 6 2018, 05:37 PM.
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Caesar
Jul 6 2018, 05:37 PM
From my viewpoint it seems to create lower jobs for citizens only which are monitored by government officials. Unfortunately Madeline, though you insist on legally binding that the volunteer program shall not be used for personal or political gain, I fear that is exactly what it will be used for by government officials who let the simple title boil over their ego. What could be a temporary fix would be to give the volunteers the ability to say no to a task upon suspicion of it being for personal or political gain.
Any job from a government official can be used.

Real world example: Scott Puritt, while head of the EPA had staffers do personal items.
Edited by Eli Hesial, Jul 6 2018, 05:42 PM.
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Caesar
Jul 6 2018, 05:37 PM
From my viewpoint it seems to create lower jobs for citizens only which are monitored by government officials. Unfortunately Madeline, though you insist on legally binding that the volunteer program shall not be used for personal or political gain, I fear that is exactly what it will be used for by government officials who let the simple title boil over their ego. What could be a temporary fix would be to give the volunteers the ability to say no to a task upon suspicion of it being for personal or political gain.
The reason I put it into there was to stress more that being involved in TRI should be for regional betterment, like the honor system sort of.
Government Officials can legally do whatever they want within the bounds of what the Grand Councillor, Sovereign, and legislation allows. Volunteers are just that, volunteers and therefore cannot be forced to do anything, especially if they are not comfortable with what the task is. The refusal may result in a firing which is allowed and they can simply reapply or "appeal" the firing by speaking with the Grand Councillor or Sovereign as the issue may be deeper than just a member of government being a bit on the shady side.

I will however be glad to add that bit to further enforce the "you are allowed to say no" that may be lacking in the assumptive definition of volunteer!
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Eli Hesial
Jul 6 2018, 05:28 PM
So, this is just about creating lower jobs for high ranking government officials?
It isn't creating lower jobs, it is enabling the government to officially use citizens who want to help the region.

High ranking government officials or low ranking, honestly rank doesn't matter here, the point is to let people work with the government in an official capacity.
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