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| U.K. Investigating 24 More Terrorist Plots | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 14 2006, 12:51 PM (205 Views) | |
| Zybch | Aug 14 2006, 12:51 PM Post #1 |
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With the nation still on its highest level of alert and its airports in pandemonium because of heightened security measures, the official, John Reid, said that about 24 other major terrorist conspiracies were still under surveillance. Those bombings already had brought Britons up against the bloody reality of Islamic terrorism, made all the more chilling by the fact that the attackers then were mainly British-born Muslims, as are the people arrested last week. The number of 24 continuing investigations into other plots - far higher than had previously been made known - seemed bound to alarm many people whose lives have already been reshaped by new security regimes and by what Prime Minister Tony Blair has called an “elemental” battle with radical Islam. ![]() LINK WHO THE FUCK NEEDS ACTUAL TERRORISTS WHEN YOUR OWN FUCKING GOVERNMENT IS DOING A FAR BETTER JOB THAN THEY EVER COULD?!?! Face it, the real terrorists have won! Look up the definition of terrorist and then compare it to what the media and worldwide governments are doing to their own people right now! We are so near the brink that its not funny! We're allready living in ploice states (no matter where on the planet you are) thanks to the actions of Bush and his mates who want to bring on the End of Days, and now even the terrorists who want to sow discord and chaos are probably looking at us with admiration! We're all totally fucked. I give us another 20-30 years at most (probably going to be a LOT less) before some fucker in washington decides to nuke some place and before we know it China will step in, then israel, then india etc. We're fucked, but nobody realises it! Its no fucking wonder I can't bear to watch TV any more! |
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| werz | Aug 14 2006, 03:10 PM Post #2 |
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There'll be a few less of us on this forum if Bush/Blair and the coalition of the wally's start throwing nukes around. Cos people don't like it and throw them back. |
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| Zybch | Aug 14 2006, 03:12 PM Post #3 |
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Thats the ONLY reason the US hasn't gone after Nth Korea. They truely are a Paper Tiger as BinLaden said. Just like the pathetic bully at school that would only ever pick on kids smaller than him, coz he'd be knocked flat if he ever picked on someone his own size. |
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| Prushka | Aug 14 2006, 03:36 PM Post #4 |
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There were several things I opted not to post simply because to much of a good thing will make you neurotic. Good news is...if you can call it that...is that public awareness is growing |
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| werz | Aug 14 2006, 03:42 PM Post #5 |
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I was reading in the Washington Post, that the crisis in the middle east has the potential to get out of control, and the world is in the most dangerous state, since the cuban missile crisis of 1962, and this is far more serious and has more countries involved. This includes Arab states which had a close relationship with the US, but since the mess we are now in with Iraq and now Lebanon, the arab people will be putting pressure on their govt's in Saudi Arabia and Egypt, to help the muslims in Iraq and Palestine. Israel is looking at Syria, to decide if they need bomb the roads, to stop weapons passing through to hizbollah. Turkey is considering invading northern Iraq, as the Kurds in Turkey are being give weapons and a safe haven in the Kurdish controlled area of Iraq. Things are going badly in Afghanistan for the UN. There is fierce fighting in the border area of Afghanistan and Pakistan, with the mujahadine who are being helped by the autonamous tribal region of Pakistan, where Usama is probably hiding out. And thats just a few of the problems. This is another fine mess youv'e got us in George. |
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| Prushka | Aug 14 2006, 03:59 PM Post #6 |
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I think I'll take my meds now...the truth is it's been going on for a loooooong time and I'm somewhat conditioned...which btw is part of the program |
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| Zybch | Aug 14 2006, 06:03 PM Post #7 |
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Thats right. Being brainwashed, I mean conditioned, to just accept this shit is probably the worst part in it all. In our unreasoning pursuit in the almighty dollar at the expense of everything else, we're all losing what little humanity we appear to have left ! If people actually knew or were humanly concerned enough to be bothered to find out exactly what is happening there would be an awful lot of very unhappy and frightened people, and that in and of itself would probably lead to a solution. As it current stands though, people don't want to know, they're told that everything is the fault of these mystical 'terrorists', and that everything will be okay just so long as we can kill enough people. Its utterly obscene! |
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| Johnny Fist | Aug 14 2006, 08:37 PM Post #8 |
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Mao said that back in the 1960s, not Bin Laden. |
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| Zybch | Aug 14 2006, 08:44 PM Post #9 |
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Bin Laden said it VERY recently, when referring to Somalia. Frontline 4/5ths of the way down under the "Describe the situation when your men took down the American forces in Somalia" heading. And here - Terrorist Watch - about 1/2 way down. |
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| Zybch | Aug 15 2006, 08:49 AM Post #10 |
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Is Iraq the US's Stalingrad? If we lose the Middle East to the extremists, will they be content to stop there? Iraq as Stalingrad In Iraq and Afghanistan, the coalitions` defeats continue slowly to unroll. In Lebanon, it appears Hezbollah may win not only at the moral and mental, strategic and operational levels, but, astonishingly, at the physical and tactical levels as well. That outcome remains uncertain, but the fact that it is possible portends a revolutionary reassessment of what Fourth Generation War, or 4GW, forces can accomplish. If it actually happens, the walls of the temple that is the state system will be shaken world-wide. In an interview this week with the BBC, Jordan`s King Abdullah II warned that the map of the Middle East was becoming unrecognizable and its future appeared ‘dim.’ Washington, which in its hubris ignores both its friends and its enemies, refusing to talk to the latter or listen to the former, does not grasp that if the flanks collapse, it is the end of our adventures in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Also, in the long term, Israel`s existence depends on arriving at some sort of modus vivendi with the region. The replacement of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and the House of Saud with the Muslim Brotherhood would make that possibility fade. To the region, America`s apparently unconditional and unbounded support for Israel and its occupation of Iraq are part of the same picture. For a military historian, the question arises: will history see Iraq as America`s Stalingrad? |
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| J..M | Aug 15 2006, 12:07 PM Post #11 |
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Who gives a fuck ? :lol: |
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| werz | Aug 15 2006, 02:06 PM Post #12 |
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It's the begining of the final chapter for the US. This didn't have to happen. In the long run, Bush's lies abused everyones trust in America, to lead the world from the moral high ground. They have found themselves to be dispised by the very people they say they are fighting for. The religious right, and corrupt election practice's, which have been tolerated by the electorate, have put the world in the hands of a gang of running dogs, the Bush administration, who are so conceited and therefore unable to grasp reality, that in a 5 year period they have destroyed the futures of 250mil americans, and many more millions of other nationalities who have supported them. We dispise the American leadership, and feel pity for those Americans that still have a shred of decency, and are as much victims of this coup as any muslim in Afghanistan. |
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| Zybch | Aug 15 2006, 04:22 PM Post #13 |
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From the NYT In January 2002, when the Bush administration created the camp at Guantánamo Bay for prisoners from the war in Afghanistan, President George W. Bush said he would be "adhering to the spirit of the Geneva Convention" in handling the detainees. Unfortunately, like many of the things the administration said about Guantánamo Bay, this was not true. Bush did not intend to follow the Geneva Conventions, and in some vital respects, he still doesn't, despite a Supreme Court ruling that the prisoners merit those protections. To everyone's relief, the White House is now working with Congress on one major violation of the conventions found by the court - the military tribunals Bush invented for Guantánamo Bay. But Bush remains determined to have his way on the other big issue - how jailers treat prisoners. He wants Congress to make the United States the first country to repudiate the language of the Geneva Conventions. The only discernible reason is to allow interrogators - intelligence agents and private contractors - to continue abusive practices plainly banned by the conventions and to make sure they cannot be held accountable. The Bush administration objects to the clause in Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions that prohibits "outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment." This standard has been followed for more than a half-century by almost 190 countries, including the United States. The War Crimes Act of 1996, passed by a Republican Congress, makes it a felony to violate the Geneva Conventions. But the Bush administration authorized techniques to handle and interrogate prisoners that clearly break the rules - like prolonged exposure to extreme temperatures, long periods in stress positions, strapping prisoners to metal contraptions and force-feeding them. Bush wants Americans to believe that the language in Common Article 3 is too vague and makes fighting terrorism impossible. In fact, the Geneva standard is more specific than the shocks-the-conscience standard. The administration's real aim is to keep on using abusive interrogation techniques at the secret prisons run by the CIA. And it wants to make interrogators - and those who give their orders - immune from prosecution. Finally, the administration wants Congress to ban the use of the Geneva Conventions as the direct or indirect basis for a legal case in American courts. This would seal off the route that a prisoner used in the case on which the Supreme Court ruled in June. The Geneva Conventions protect Americans. If the United States changes the rules, it's changing the rules for Americans taken prisoner abroad. That is far too high a price to pay so this administration can hang on to its misbegotten policies. In January 2002, when the Bush administration created the camp at Guantánamo Bay for prisoners from the war in Afghanistan, President George W. Bush said he would be "adhering to the spirit of the Geneva Convention" in handling the detainees. Unfortunately, like many of the things the administration said about Guantánamo Bay, this was not true. Bush did not intend to follow the Geneva Conventions, and in some vital respects, he still doesn't, despite a Supreme Court ruling that the prisoners merit those protections. To everyone's relief, the White House is now working with Congress on one major violation of the conventions found by the court - the military tribunals Bush invented for Guantánamo Bay. But Bush remains determined to have his way on the other big issue - how jailers treat prisoners. He wants Congress to make the United States the first country to repudiate the language of the Geneva Conventions. The only discernible reason is to allow interrogators - intelligence agents and private contractors - to continue abusive practices plainly banned by the conventions and to make sure they cannot be held accountable. The Bush administration objects to the clause in Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions that prohibits "outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment." This standard has been followed for more than a half-century by almost 190 countries, including the United States. The War Crimes Act of 1996, passed by a Republican Congress, makes it a felony to violate the Geneva Conventions. But the Bush administration authorized techniques to handle and interrogate prisoners that clearly break the rules - like prolonged exposure to extreme temperatures, long periods in stress positions, strapping prisoners to metal contraptions and force-feeding them. Bush wants Americans to believe that the language in Common Article 3 is too vague and makes fighting terrorism impossible. In fact, the Geneva standard is more specific than the shocks-the-conscience standard. The administration's real aim is to keep on using abusive interrogation techniques at the secret prisons run by the CIA. And it wants to make interrogators - and those who give their orders - immune from prosecution. Finally, the administration wants Congress to ban the use of the Geneva Conventions as the direct or indirect basis for a legal case in American courts. This would seal off the route that a prisoner used in the case on which the Supreme Court ruled in June. The Geneva Conventions protect Americans. If the United States changes the rules, it's changing the rules for Americans taken prisoner abroad. That is far too high a price to pay so this administration can hang on to its misbegotten policies. In January 2002, when the Bush administration created the camp at Guantánamo Bay for prisoners from the war in Afghanistan, President George W. Bush said he would be "adhering to the spirit of the Geneva Convention" in handling the detainees. Unfortunately, like many of the things the administration said about Guantánamo Bay, this was not true. Bush did not intend to follow the Geneva Conventions, and in some vital respects, he still doesn't, despite a Supreme Court ruling that the prisoners merit those protections. To everyone's relief, the White House is now working with Congress on one major violation of the conventions found by the court - the military tribunals Bush invented for Guantánamo Bay. But Bush remains determined to have his way on the other big issue - how jailers treat prisoners. He wants Congress to make the United States the first country to repudiate the language of the Geneva Conventions. The only discernible reason is to allow interrogators - intelligence agents and private contractors - to continue abusive practices plainly banned by the conventions and to make sure they cannot be held accountable. The Bush administration objects to the clause in Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions that prohibits "outrages upon personal dignity, in particular, humiliating and degrading treatment." This standard has been followed for more than a half-century by almost 190 countries, including the United States. The War Crimes Act of 1996, passed by a Republican Congress, makes it a felony to violate the Geneva Conventions. But the Bush administration authorized techniques to handle and interrogate prisoners that clearly break the rules - like prolonged exposure to extreme temperatures, long periods in stress positions, strapping prisoners to metal contraptions and force-feeding them. Bush wants Americans to believe that the language in Common Article 3 is too vague and makes fighting terrorism impossible. In fact, the Geneva standard is more specific than the shocks-the-conscience standard. The administration's real aim is to keep on using abusive interrogation techniques at the secret prisons run by the CIA. And it wants to make interrogators - and those who give their orders - immune from prosecution. Finally, the administration wants Congress to ban the use of the Geneva Conventions as the direct or indirect basis for a legal case in American courts. This would seal off the route that a prisoner used in the case on which the Supreme Court ruled in June. The Geneva Conventions protect Americans. If the United States changes the rules, it's changing the rules for Americans taken prisoner abroad. That is far too high a price to pay so this administration can hang on to its misbegotten policies. |
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| J..M | Aug 15 2006, 11:33 PM Post #14 |
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Oxymoron :lol:
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| werz | Aug 16 2006, 05:02 PM Post #15 |
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Theres plenty good ones. You just hear 'American' an you think theys all like lando. |
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| Zybch | Aug 16 2006, 08:55 PM Post #16 |
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Is it just my drug and alcohol addled brain, or has he not been about recently?? |
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| werz | Aug 16 2006, 10:48 PM Post #17 |
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Probably been warned by 'the watchers' not to visit forums, where they talk treason against the Bush administration. |
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| Zybch | Aug 17 2006, 09:21 AM Post #18 |
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The ones where people like me state in no uncertain terms that they'd like to ram a steel pipe up Dubya's ass, insert a length of razor-wire into the pipe, remove the pipe leaving the wire in-place, attach the exposed end of the wire to a dozen prime pork ribs, then dump Dubya into the middle of a rabid pack of hungry-for-pork dogs? That kind of forum??
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| mireland | Aug 17 2006, 10:45 AM Post #19 |
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fuck off douche bag...
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| werz | Aug 17 2006, 09:13 PM Post #20 |
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Yea, thats the forum I wuz thinkin of. |
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| cheeseman | Aug 18 2006, 12:54 PM Post #21 |
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that is scary :ph43r:
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