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Topic Started: Aug 28 2011, 09:03 AM (32,869 Views)
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Mar 29 2012, 05:33 AM
Completely agree with your post there, especially on taking risks. I guess the last big one was not putting HD on the Wii, and we all know how that went. Companies with those reputations will play safely and do the same thing they know earns them money. Again, going back to Nintendo, they made the 3DS and now the Wii U. The same names are a safe tactic to work... or so they thought, anyway, as people are prolly gonna be confused. It's the same reason the "Playstation Orbis" is a stupid name. PS1, PS2, PS3; it shows clear advancement in technology. Orbis? What the fuck?

The idea of the Orbis and used games being eradicated isn't taking a risk, it's simply seizing on the uninformed customer's ignorance, which will sadly work as most customers nowadays are the uninformed type. It's the same story as when GTA5 was announced and people instantly started pre-ordering, the PSVita was shown and people bought it without thinking. These things make sales because people are used to the brand name and come to expect a good product, but what if something like the Orbis happens to them? What if GTA5 tones down the violence, or does something else to mess it up?

Games won't be cheaper, gtfo, article.

Game stores are already dying (my nearest one closed indefinitely last week, actually), so switching to digital sounds good and all, but we all know that younger and older people alike bring a game round to their friends house and play for a while. I would bring Crash Team Racing to my friend's house all the time when we were little, and that was great fun. This entire idea promotes singularity and online multiplayer, not local. Local multiplayer is far more satisfying; in online, you can't unplug someone's controller when you're losing. Getting rid of the freedom to do more is a step backwards.

At the time, HD was not prevalent here in America. I don't know about Japan, but I'd say it's safe to assume the situation was much the same there. You'd think Nintendo would know their primary market. Nintendo's folly was in not realizing that as the technology improved/got cheaper, more people would come to possess it. The other guys did realize it, and also realized the core gamer does care about graphics/technology.

Sure, Nintendo probably saved a good chunk of change on each console produced, which enabled them to sell the Wii at $250 for a long time, which also allowed Nintendo to create their own niche in the gaming market, but at what cost to the demographic that got them there? There are plenty of hardcore Nintendo fans who feel betrayed and are wary of buying the next one, already expecting a similar situation. I know I sure am.

As for the name, apparently the word for "four" sounds like the word for death in Japanese. Obviously this is a pretty big deal to a Japanese company. It's like how Americans consider thirteen to be unlucky and thus try to avoid it. Other than that, numerical names also create the impression that something later and greater will just come out in a few months/years anyway. The difference is you accept this with gaming or you are left behind. They could name the next system "Irradiated Horse Shit 4" and gamers would still get it just to have the latest technology and titles.

I agree that this name (along with shitty practices) hurts brand recognition. Surely people will know Sony made this, just like the PS3. The uninformed consumer then wonders, "Is this like the PS3? Is it a step up, or is it a new product altogether?" Good naming schemes eliminate this uncertainty and make it more likely the consumer gets the next iteration of a product.

Of course consumers are uninformed. Sony/Microsoft are counting on casual consumers to deal with it and pick it up when a "Killer App" (read: the new CoD, some major exclusive) drops.

Unfortunately there are those consumers who won't deal with it, and I'd bet my left nut many of them are not half as informed as we are on the industry. They don't know the state of the industry, what practices gamers accept, the best tactics for online play, or any of that shit. What they *know* is that they want a system that allows them to play games with no bullshit - No online requirements, nothing cockblocking them if they got a used game, and so on. They aren't used to all the bullshit many gamers will justify on the industry's behalf, and thus might not want a part of it.

Game stores are dying, indeed. The issue that publishers have is that GameStop lives, grows like a malignant cancer, and supposedly deprives them of new sales. Ignoring the many fallacies of this "argument", the smart thing is to turn GameStop into something much like the used automobile industry - certified dealers sell used cars and the manufacturer gets a cut. The auto industry saw they were losing out on a major revenue stream and got in on that action. However, as we know, both sides are too greedy to come to a compromise that won't fuck over their consumers.

As for online multiplayer, we know that's about money. To get the same group of four playing a modern game, you will have to purchase four consoles, four copies of the game, have four internet connections, and if you're on 360, four Gold memberships. Either way you need four controllers, so whatever. Who benefits? Surely not your wallet.
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http://consumerist.com/2012/04/worst-compa...rica-vs-ea.html

EA should have never gotten out of round two, but they did. Why? Angry gamers. It's pretty fucking rare to see a hardcore gamer (i.e. the sort who takes this as a serious hobby/plays more than brotastic/casual games) who also does not use the internet/read gaming sites, so naturally they've likely spammed these polls.

I'd wager that if you could measure groups that use the internet, gamers would be in the top five. This is demographics at work.

They're here now. If BoA wins, even though they are obviously far worse... Nothing changes. Everyone knows they're bad, article after article in the mainstream was written about the economic collapse, many of those likely discussed which banks were at fault/bailed out, and has anything changed? No, they still charge bullshit fees and all that jazz.

If EA wins, there's some hope that the mainstream press takes notice of an industry they've ignored because, one, it's entertainment, and two, being a consumer in said industry implies you have disposable income to some extent. Apparently this means you don't need consumer protection or rights, but it's pretty obvious I disagree with that rationale.

Vote EA.
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Not really gaming news specifically, but EA has been listed as Americas worst company, beats out wal-mart, bank of america, and AT&T!
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Free Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut DLC to give "more closure" this Summer. Also, there will be no new Mass Effect 3 endings, just an extended one.

inb4peoplebitchaboutthisDLC
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Wii U to retail for under $300.

Lower than even my most optimistic figure, if this is true. I always figured it would go for $3-400, in large part because Nintendo would want MORE POWER to appeal to the core gamer.

However, this price point should tell you that it likely won't be too much more powerful than PS3/360.
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Apr 8 2012, 03:40 PM
Wii U to retail for under $300. Lower than even my most optimistic figure, if this is true. I always figured it would go for $3-400, in large part because Nintendo would want MORE POWER to appeal to the core gamer. However, this price point should tell you that it likely won't be too much more powerful than PS3/360.

You could be right, as I read an article on Kotaku last week (which I could not find on their site anymore) in which developers said that the Wii U has less power than its 360/PS3 counterparts.
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There have been conflicting things that developers have said about the Wii U's processing power. They've said it's waaay more powerful than current gen; they've said it's a little bit more powerful; they've said it's just as powerful; they've said it's less powerful; etc.

*cough*
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Apr 9 2012, 12:11 AM
There have been conflicting things that developers have said about the Wii U's processing power. They've said it's waaay more powerful than current gen; they've said it's a little bit more powerful; they've said it's just as powerful; they've said it's less powerful; etc.

*cough*

That would be nice, except we all know that the Wii got shafted in the third party department precisely because Nintendo took no part in the never-ending graphics arms race. You know as well as I do this is a reason many core gamers own a Wii and a "true" seventh-gen console.

Perhaps Sony and Microsoft don't up the ante and all three eighth-gen consoles are on relatively equal footing, meaning that Wii U would get most of the AAA titles as well, but I think that's a pipe dream.

We also know Nintendo never wants to sell a console at a loss. Why would you want to do that when you're aiming (mostly) for an audience that might want only a few games, or worse, might want it only for Netflix? That's fewer chances Nintendo would have to recoup what they lost on the console. Sony and Microsoft are perfectly willing to sell more powerful machines at a loss because they are aiming for core gamers, who will pour more money into software.

tl;dr: I want to know how powerful it is because it *will* affect the games we get.
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That and also because Nintendo pretty much hated third party developers. But with reports of Nintendo working close with a buncha third party developers for Wii U, along with the good third party support the 3DS is seeing, I think we can expect Wii U will have better support than the Wii no matter what. Better tech specs will definitely attract even more developers though. Unfortunately, we've seen practically nothing of the Wii U's graphical capabilities. We'll just have to wait until E3 to see for ourselves.
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There's a rumor going around on neogaf apparently that Nintendo isn't happy with the rumors about its power and that it's actually more powerful than the current consoles. One of the writers posts on the Nintendo IGN board and just reiterated that the source that they got this information from is trusted among the people there. Obviously take this with a huge grain of salt.

We won't know for sure until E3, I'm sure.

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/rumor-ap...shut.250133813/

Here's the post from the guy who I assume is supposed to be a writer from there:

http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/rumor-ap...#post-252081992

This doesn't make me believe that the Wii U is going to be some powerful monster console. This just makes me believe that we won't know what the hell we're in for until the thing is fully unveiled at E3 with playable games and the such.
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Nintendo has registered a domain name for Super Mario 4. It could possibly be the new 2D Mario game they're making for 3DS or even something for Wii U. I find it odd though that it's Super Mario 4 and not Super Mario Bros. 4.
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Apr 9 2012, 05:42 PM
Nintendo has registered a domain name for Super Mario 4. It could possibly be the new 2D Mario game they're making for 3DS or even something for Wii U. I find it odd though that it's Super Mario 4 and not Super Mario Bros. 4.

Because of the lack of "Bros." it makes me think it's going to be a new 3D platformer.

Super Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy (with a sequel for it)
Super Mario 4

I'd personally rather have another 3D platformer Mario than a 2D one. I could never get into the 2D ones, but Sunshine to this day is one of my favorite games.
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Gawd, I hope it isn't like Galaxy. It's my least favorite Mario game of all time.
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I'm hoping that for whatever 3D platforming Mario they do next, they go back to the setup with larger worlds, like the first three, and not the "World 1-1, 1-2, 1-3, etc, etc" thing they did with Galaxy 2. It was fine to change it up once, but ultimately I didn't like it as much.

Personally I can't wait for the next one. Galaxy and Galaxy 2 looked beautiful on the Wii, and even Sunshine still looks fantastic on the Gamecube, so I'm dying to see how amazing-looking they can make a new one look.
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Rumor: Pandora's Tower showing up in GameStop's database; Manager says they'll be taking pre-orders around June 20th
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