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| Romanticide | Jun 6 2013, 11:45 PM Post #556 |
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I'd say it's pretty telling we don't have an Xbone thread. Anyway, some more Xbone news, this time straight from the source. (warning: tl;dr incoming) http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license Starting with the news that I think most of us will find most interesting.
That actually sounds pretty good. However, digital is cheaper than physical and I expect the product to be priced accordingly. There's a reason many PC games (not all obv) are $50 on release day. If I'm paying $60 or whatever the new price is this gen for both digital and physical, I'm going physical every time. If the price of digital does not fall with physical prices, I'm going physical every time.
I'll concede that this is a cool feature. I'd wish that not taking part in the cloud bullshit is an option, but it's pretty clear that this console assumes online access, so... Still think the cloud is as much about DRM as it is about what the cloud can do.
Possibly exploitable but cool. I'd have to think Microsoft has ways to make sure you aren't exploiting this by calling ten friends "family" (as I would do), but who knows.
Oh man, why am I smelling BULLSHIT?
EDIT: I misinterpreted this. Thought it was about loaning games to friends. Pretty big derp. Anyway, obviously you can only give a game away once, but can the new owner give it away again? I don't understand the logic behind the 30 day friend requirement now. If I want to add someone for the sole purpose of giving my property away, I should be able to do that.
This is why I was smelling bullshit. Obviously most third parties will go out of their way to ensure Gamestop can resell their games even if they have to cut some kind of deal, but what does this system mean for mom-and-pop retailers? There's also the distinct possibility third parties allow no resale whatsoever. Not even legal according to First Sale Doctrine. (but lol @ consumer rights in the US) Seems to me that Gamefly and Redbox aren't on board with this system - Why else would rental not be available at launch? Why should they be? It threatens to upend their business model with no benefit to them. Moving on now. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/connected
Yes, it's totally smart business to throw away the ~25% of your consumers who never connected a 360 to the internet! Sure, 25% isn't a majority, but we're talking in the billions of dollars here from console sales alone. Live subscriptions and games are another huge chunk of change. That is not an insignificant amount of cash Microsoft just threw away. There's also the whole reliability issue, but Microsoft is assuming near 100% reliable broadband. If you don't have that, you don't matter to them.
The former had best be optional, but the latter is unacceptable. Sure, it sounds convenient and all, but I don't want a system spying on me to see what I'm doing with my games.
Confirmation of the unacceptable. This right here is a dealbreaker in and of itself. Moving on again. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy
Well, assuming all this is true, we're safely out of tinfoil hat territory. I never thought people were going to sit in some room with a shitton of monitors or whatever and spy on us. Just isn't feasible. What is feasible is algorithms tailoring advertisements to us. While this is a legitimate worry, it's also not quite the same as people watching your every move. I do find it a bit disheartening that they never specified what they could do with any of the information they've gathered. Even if I allow it to leave my Xbone, they never said they won't sell it to third parties. |
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| Bigcalv2002 | Jun 7 2013, 01:19 AM Post #557 |
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Da resident crazy canuck!!
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Some of what you quoted sounds decent, but most of it still sounds too vague. It seems like they are really trying to pull the wool over our eyes with the whole daily internet connection and mandatory kinect. Seems too convenient to me that both of those things are mandatory. I aint gonna put away my tinfoil hat anytime soon lol. |
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| Romanticide | Jun 7 2013, 01:38 AM Post #558 |
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Yeah, when I said "tinfoil hat", I meant it more so for the people who are like "OMG KINECT WILL SPY ON ME, MY FAMILY, MY DOGGEH AND KITTEH, AND TEH GUVMENT WILL HAZ ALL TEH ACCESSEZ", not people who have legitimate gripes against an anti-consumer system. Of course, this train left the station long ago. Privacy is definitely worth worrying about, but most people still own a smartphone and that technology's privacy failings are well-documented. Not saying people should just bend over, accept it, and buy an Xbone, but it goes beyond the Xbone. |
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| Granskjegg | Jun 7 2013, 10:30 AM Post #559 |
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Eg e husfar.
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I love how all these things we have always taken for granted are now big new great features of the new Xbox. It's a fucking travesty. |
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| Volt | Jun 7 2013, 09:18 PM Post #560 |
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Keep Moving Forward
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I am pretty much settled on ditching Microsoft for Sony at this point. I don't think any amount of awesome exclusives at E3 would make me change my mind now. I had thought that Microsoft would have been smart enough to NOT pull any of this stuff. I used to defend them as well. Ah well, I've gone my whole life without touching anything Sony. I guess now's a good time to start. WiiU and PS4 are gonna be my buddies next gen. |
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| Bigcalv2002 | Jun 8 2013, 08:37 AM Post #561 |
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Da resident crazy canuck!!
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I would not count Sony in just yet. They hwve not come out and said much else about their system in the last few weeks. Best to just wait and see. |
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| Granskjegg | Jun 8 2013, 11:03 AM Post #562 |
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Eg e husfar.
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PCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPCPC |
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| Olinea | Jun 8 2013, 11:06 AM Post #563 |
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No finesse
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We all love PCP, yes |
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| Romanticide | Jun 13 2013, 02:33 PM Post #564 |
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http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013...-of-an-underdog So Metro: Last Light had 10% of the budget that its competitors (presumably AAA studios) had, yet the game is universally considered to be one of the most graphically impressive out there. I've always thought it was the graphics that might be adding so much to the costs, but apparently The Witcher 2 cost eight million to develop, and now Metro: Last Light cost relatively little to develop. If one of the two major causes I thought were responsible for bloat is untrue, that leaves only one in my mind: The insanely huge and inefficient AAA costs. If your game is good, we don't care if it cost you 8 or 80 million to make. However, the 8 million dollar failure might not close an AAA studio and might not necessitate eroding consumer rights. |
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| SaiyanShredder | Jun 13 2013, 06:48 PM Post #565 |
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Saiyan gon...
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Posted Image Posted Image It actually got worse... |
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| Granskjegg | Jun 13 2013, 07:52 PM Post #566 |
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Eg e husfar.
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That's just wrong, hahah. |
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| Romanticide | Jun 15 2013, 12:17 PM Post #567 |
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http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Xbox-One-...ards-56737.html lolMS lolxbone lolwindows8 |
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| Antunee | Jun 15 2013, 07:29 PM Post #568 |
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#1 Girl
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http://i.imgur.com/ixRnGg0.png From the comments. |
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| Romanticide | Jun 18 2013, 03:59 AM Post #569 |
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalf...n-with-xbox-one Not sure if lolxbone, but worth a read anyway. |
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| cscrocker | Jun 18 2013, 11:55 PM Post #570 |
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Ang tanging Pilipino sa forum na ito
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PS4 Games Will Cost $59.99 Just gonna leave this here and see your thoughts about it since I don't know how much games are supposed to be anywhere else. Although, I kinda expected this but this is just too expensive for me. |
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