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Topic Started: Aug 28 2011, 09:03 AM (32,807 Views)
Romanticide
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https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/581579256704081920

tbh this is dumber than a delay. I understand delays; I'd rather buy a good product day 1 than wait for a playable product weeks or even months later. That and most of the things I really like take lots of time, so I'm used to waiting.

I'm probably underselling the amount of work that's put into a presentation, especially Nintendo's always polished presentations, but relatively speaking, making a trailer or whatever to present at E3 is small potatoes. I just don't get it when they were willing to show off what was obviously an early build at some awards show that was only streamed, but are perfectly willing to pass up the biggest event in gaming news.
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Yeah, I think not showing it at E3 is a poor move on Nintendo's part, keeping people excited about the game is something I think is very important to keep the system popular (the Wii U can use any help it gets). Hopefully they'll show off some other cool stuff like announcing METROID PRIME 4, COME ON NINTENDO, PLS or perhaps showing off Star Fox Wii U.
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Today, my Filipino pride takes over. Tekken has officially confirmed a Filipina character in the series. This is a big deal I think because we finally get a character from the Philippines in a series that we really do care about (there have been Filipina characters in Dead or Alive and Soul Calibur, both of which common Filipino gamers rarely/never talk about.)

Anyway, you may return to your Nintendo chitchat.
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I agree 100% with delays, trust me. I'm tired of getting broken games at launch (Evolve, Battlefield 4, Halo MCC). However, I agree 100% with what Ro is saying. It doesn't make any sense at all. I'm also going to say that I expect Star Fox to be delayed.

Also, im kinda frustrated that the Wii U has a bunch of "party style" games rather than ones with single player experiences with narratives right now. That's why Zelda was so critical for me... But I'll have to be patient.

Lots of great games this year anyway with Witcher 3, Batman Arkham Knight, MGS V, Halo 5, etc. still a great year for games :)
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Indeed, while Mario Kart and Super Smash are fun games they can't really compare to a good story. As a whole the Wii U is a pretty poor console, hopefully Nintendo will "get with the times" with their next home console.
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There are definitely things Nintendo needs to "get with the times" on, like their online infrastructure. It's kinda garbage that voice chat isn't a standard feature for every game with online play. I get that Nintendo wants to "protect teh kiddies" and "create a friendly environment", but at some point people have to be accountable and decide if voice chat is for them/their families. I don't *care* that it's easier to screw over online gamers to appease parents who don't want to use parental controls/watch their fucking hellspawn. Also the sales could stand to be better. Sony has really upped their game and I have a fair number of downloaded PS3 games. I've bought three on Wii U.

As far as power goes, I don't care. I don't need third party games on my Nintendo console; 95% of what I want comes to PC anyway. I don't need graphics that necessitate hundred million dollar budgets to enjoy a fucking game, either. Most of the power whining seems to come from people who want to get all their games on one machine. I don't think that's plausible if you want to be a well-rounded gamer, not in 2015. You're missing out on something no matter which direction you go.

Also marketing, the name, an unwieldy controller, etc. We all know that shit has sucked, no reason to beat a dead horse.

But the most important part is the games, and Smash/Kart/Bayo 2 are all worth owning; they're every bit as good as past iterations of their series. Worth buying a console for? I'd say that depends on how much weight you put on those series. But whatever, I bought this for X. Those titles exist to tide me over.
Edited by Romanticide, Mar 29 2015, 10:13 PM.
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I also agree on the power part, however I do believe if the Nintendo "whatever" is equal or similar in power to the other big consoles, they might have better chances at getting good third party support and get big titles like Battlefield, the call a doodies etc. something that could result in more money for Nintendo, and potentially more console sales. People buy Nintendo systems for Nintendo games, but theyere is quite a bit of people who playing Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect one the Wii U, so there likely is a market for such games.
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[utube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXmj2yJNUmQ[/utube]

I do feel Anita's criticisms are valid, but even I sometimes get the impression that "nothing can please her", so it's nice to see her discuss a video game in which someone does a female protagonist right.

But yeah, leaving this here.


http://www.polygon.com/2015/3/31/8319167/gaming-and-autism-what-we-get-wrong

Also this. I feel that most representations of autism in entertainment are ass, so video games aren't alone here. There's To the Moon, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Nighttime, and... everything else, as far as I'm concerned.

I don't think it'd be very hard to write an autistic character (or a disabled character, for that matter) who doesn't completely suck; it just takes giving them a bit of agency and a story/characterization we can relate to.
Edited by Romanticide, Mar 31 2015, 07:37 PM.
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This parties aren't evading Nintendo because of power, they have problems with Nintendo itself and the fact their gamers don't buy those games. Sure, moving forward power becomes an issue, but there's no reason bioshock infinite, madden, assassins creed rogue, and many more would've skipped the wii u if the main issue was the power. For one, most wii u owners fall in two categories, they either don't play western style games which is why they went with a Nintendo console or they have another system that is either more better suited(graphically, not as gimped, dlc) or they're used to that system for that series. If I've been playing assassins creed on ps3 for four games, why am I gonna switch to the wii u version when ubisoft barely added anything extra? I personally have bought a few third party games on wii u and have been so ripped off I probably won't buy from those publishers again. Nintendo mainly needs to readjust their audience. They need to focus on their core audiences and untapped audiences, like mentioned before females.


We now live in a world where franchises rule and graphics and violent weapons reign supreme. There's nothing wrong with graphics and violent guns, but the ones that sell best have the best
reputation. Made even worse by the fact that gamers are pressured into preordering, where they buy games that they don't even have reviews for yet and even then the reviews are practically paid for. Compare this to the movie industry when reviews are out weeks before sometimes and the reviewer had experienced the full product, not to mention regular people who get to see early screenings with no sorts of bribery. It doesn't help that, despite what I at one time thought, most gamers are complete idiots. I think this is obvious when you see how few female and minority characters there are as main characters in games compared to movies which are already atrocious ly terrible at represented. I mean, gta is the only bigger franchise I can think of to have a black man as the main character. And I can only think of samus as a female lead who want scantily clad (minus the final part and recent games). I'm sure there are ones I don't know or are forgetting, but that's pretty sad when I can think of countless white males in lead roles.

Well I didn't expect this rant to take this turn, but honestly the video game industry just really depresses me at this point

After looking through all the biggest franchises the only exceptions I found that I know about (I haven't playafinal fantasy so I don't know of the main characters of any of the games except cloud). is the resident evil series
Edited by CALJR_8760, Mar 31 2015, 09:12 PM.
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Bioware makes games that have good representation even if the gameplay in most is shit boring (sup Dragon Age: Origins/KOTOR), and the Final Fantasy games are mostly games where a female is either the lead or very prominent in the narrative. But yeah, most AAA games feature a white male antagonist because they're pouring eight/nine figures into games nowadays and they see that as the "safe" thing to do.

We live in a world where only Taylor Swift cracked a million album sales last year. Frozen is one of the most popular IPs of recent times. The overwhelming GOTY of 2013 (The Last of Us) had a strong female character as a central part of its narrative. The female Thor comic is outselling the male Thor comic, even when you adjust for where they're at in their lifespan. "Straight white male" used to be the safe thing, but I don't think it is anymore. If you want blockbuster sales in 2015, you have to make everyone feel included. Pointing out this lack of diversity and saying "hey, maybe include some well-written females/*insert minority* once in a while" is not censorship; it is simply a plea for better storytelling, characterization, and in the end, better video games.

Without a massive marketing push, I feel Nintendo will always be relegated to secondary system status amongst "core" gamers. They have this reputation of being "kiddy" and holding the player's hand, both of which are anathema to the self-proclaimed "core". The third-party situation is a self-fulfilling prophecy really. We expect bad (or late) ports, we get bad ports, we don't buy bad ports. There isn't one on Wii U I'd recommend over its Sony/MS/PC counterpart unless you have no other way to get that game.

If there's any way to break out of this cycle, it's to put out a console that is on par with its competitors power-wise, advertise the hell out of it (and give it a good name ffs), and rebuild third party relationships. If you don't WANT to break out of this cycle, well, your other option is to find/create a blue ocean. This is what the Wii did, but mobile gaming is now a thing and it only requires a device that's even more ubiquitous/necessary than any console.

All this said, I personally don't care. I've accepted that I'm only going to get Nintendo games and some JRPGs on a Nintendo console. PC/Nintendo is pretty much objectively the best combination, though there are compelling reasons to buy Sony and Microsoft consoles, namely the exclusive games and saving cash on those machines.

The AAA marketplace is unsustainable without at least one of two things: A price raise on games or the cost of development/marketing tailing off or becoming cheaper. A lot of people don't like the "Atlus tax", never mind that you generally get something worth your money. I don't mind the Atlus tax; I was buying SMT/Persona titles anyway because they're fun games. Alternatively, charge $40 for your AAA production in the hopes of gaining a bigger audience, but lol @ this happening. I don't see development becoming cheaper, either. We all know Destiny and GTAV cost hundreds of millions to make/market. I feel like the high cost of developing and marketing something new is part of why we're getting so many remasters of games that quite frankly don't need it.

But yeah, there are still lots of great games coming out. They're just coming from places that aren't the AAA space, and I feel this is good for everyone.
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Nobody posted anything about the Direct? You are all horrible people.

[utube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fS24IxelBA[/utube]

This was and still is everything. It will always be everything. Unless the game sucks, then I'll forget this was a thing. But yeah, dat artstyle and dat music.

The SMT fanbase is being incredibly stupid about this. I'm disappointed; I thought (most of) this fanbase was better than that shit. SMT covers a lot of ground and not every game in the series is supr dupr dark and brooding. That and we've seen two minutes of a fucking trailer with under 30 seconds of anything that can be called gameplay. It's one thing not to like it, but half the SMT fanbase is acting like SMT is dead and blaming Persona fans for it, and all the while acting like they don't like Persona/anime too.

/rant

Back to Direct stuff.


http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/04/01/these-3-new-yoshi-amiibo-are-made-of-yarn

I NEED THESE THEY ARE SO STINKING CUTE

As a Yoshi fan, I'll probably be picking these up and any plushies that come out alongside this game. RIP my wallet. I'll have 4 Yoshi amiibos and a Yoshi plush, if not moar. The game itself is coming out in the fall, which doesn't surprise me much. I doubt they'll try and have Yoshi compete with the usual slate of November releases, though. I'd guess an September or early October release. Just don't compete with Persona 5 please.


http://kotaku.com/mario-kart-is-getting-a-new-harder-difficulty-level-1695131174

200cc muhfuhs.

Do I have to say more than this? No? We really need to play Beerio Kart when this shit drops; that would be the best thing ever even if I'm the only drunk fucker.

Also the second pack of DLC comes out on April 23rd. I bought both packs; 16 tracks/6 racers/8 vehicles is way too much value for $12. Some of the stuff is hit and miss, but the value is still great.


[utube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acqCg-TCxJw[/utube]

This is pretty hype.

I hope they've expanded upon the avatar designer and let us pick weapons/tomes. I'd love to do things that haven't been done in the series. I don't think there's been a bow-wielding Lord, for example. As silly as that would be, it's still something I'd do because fuck it.

If they release it as two versions over here, I don't care that much. I'll get them both (and any DLC) because it's fucking Fire Emblem. Is it the best move Nintendo has ever made? No. Is it indefensible? If both versions look like what we've seen and are long quests in their own right (talking 25-30 chapters here), I don't think anybody will care too much. I know I won't.

Also #TeamNohr. Hard route is the only acceptable route.


In other miscellaneous Direct stuff:

-Splatoon releasing on May 29th. It looks like a decent game, but I think the deciding factor for me will be how many of y'all get it. I can't see myself picking it up at $60 if nobody else does; it just doesn't seem like an game I'd pour a ton of hours into, especially with all the other things I have to play. Of course, I could be wrong and I could play it for 100+ hours because it rules. Who knows? I haven't played it.

-Mah waifu Palutena comes Stateside in July. I hope I have a chance to, you know, actually fucking find one before pre-orders are sold out in five minutes. But it's my birthday that month and I'll use every resource I have to get one. Also want dat Marth Amiibo that I missed out on the first time. Idk if that'll mean Marth no longer sells for umpteen zillion dollars, but it'll be easier to find in any case.

-N64 and DS games coming to Virtual Console get hype. I don't think I'll pick any of the announced games up (have Paper Mario/DK64, not sure if Yoshi's Island is different enough to be worth the buy), but both systems have a lot of good shit. No Perfect Dark because Rare tho RIP in peace pipes.

-Pokemon Rumble World coming to 3DS on the 8th. I only played the first one on the Wii, but it was a fun little game. As long as this isn't laden with microtransaction bullshit (see: Pokemon Shuffle), I'll give it a whirl.

-Of course, Mewtwo and Lucas in Sm4sh. Mewtwo comes out on the 15th if you bought both versions, the 28th otherwise. $4 for one version, $5 for both. I kinda feel like I could have saved $36, but the soundtrack CDs are cool and having both versions does have its uses.
Edited by Romanticide, Apr 2 2015, 08:27 PM.
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Honestly I think it was a great direct, of choose it wasn't going to be the biggest thing ever since they'll save that for e3, but it did have a lot of info and it was nice knowing fatal frame will be coming over and smt x fe is still a thing. It's great knowing Mario kart and smash are still being supported and I'm hoping we'll see more Mario kart dlc. My only disappointment is that both Mario Maker and yoshi are being pushed back until fall. I understand that it makes sense to get their sales ready for the holiday season though especially with a lack of zelda, but I just hope splatoon won't be the last retail release until September. At the very least it gives me time to gather the money for all the games and I'll just have to use the extra time for my backlog and summer fun.


This makes me really hope there are good surprises for e3. Considering were pretty far into the systems life by year's end I'm hoping we see metroid and a true 3d mario. It would be very odd not to see either on a Nintendo console. 2016 could easily become the craziest year of big releases for Nintendo if they were to release a main Mario, Zelda, and Metroid. And honestly at this point those are about the only bigger franchisees yet to hit the wii u by year's end with the exception of the new found love of animal crossing and fire emblem. I'm hoping Nintendo realizes that they should pour whatever remaining franchises they have into the wii u in 2016 if it is to be its final year. Metroid almost seems a given, but I have a lot of doubt we'll see an f-zero, mother, or kid icarus game, but who knows at this point? There's probably a lot of people that also didn't expect a new star Fox or earthbound being released on virtual console
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http://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2015/03/battlefield-hardline-reviewcop-out.html

They call it a review and give it a number, but it's more of a critique.

In any case, it's one of the better critiques I've seen about a video game, so I leave it here.


http://www.destructoid.com/review-wave-4-amiibo-shopping-289958.phtml

Also this x infinity.

There are some things I expect to sell out within minutes. Tickets to important sports events? Yup, they're going to be gone fast. Tickets to a Bieber/Ariana Grande/*insert big name* concert? Yup. Extremely limited editions of some things? Yeah, those will probably sell too. There are a couple things all of those have in common, though: We know there's a limited quantity by definition and we know precisely when we'll be able to order. Not so much with Amiibos, which seem to go up at random times, and sometimes at the worst possible hours. We also don't have the slightest clue how many there are, but it's evident there are nowhere near enough to meet US demand.

If these were advertised as limited edition products, I'd have less of an issue with it. It'd still suck to miss out on favored characters, don't get me wrong, but at least we would know that we're trying to get something that's rare. It would go some ways towards mitigating the anger people feel over Amiibo shortages.

Basically you shouldn't have to be watching websites 24/7 or buying from scalpers on eBay to get a product that isn't advertised as being scarce. I think we can all agree that for most things, you should be able to walk into a store within the week (I walked in today, knowing full well the chances were essentially zero) and have a reasonable chance of placing a pre-order. This isn't much to ask for.

I feel a big part of the problem is trying to get so many characters out so fast. I don't know how the manufacturing process works, but I do know there are shortages of characters that people want, and it makes me question if pumping out every character as fast as possible is the best idea.

This said, I will literally suck dick for the Yarn Yoshi Amiibos.
Edited by Romanticide, Apr 4 2015, 12:02 AM.
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I agree completely on the amiibos. The first wave? Sure, I can understand Nintendo not making a ton of marth, villager, and wii fit trainers, even if the last fire emblem and animal crossing sold well, and yes even wave two I understand captain falcon, pit, and little mac. Wave 3 and 4 have been terrible though. They knew the problems from the first two waves and they decide to limit popular characters this time. Why are lucario, rosalina, jigglypuff, or greninja hard to get? They're all extremely popular with massive the exception of greninja. Even ness is pretty pathetic becausehonestly original twelve should've been easy to get a hold of simply because people know them by now just because of smash even if they don't play those respective games.

I went in to get ness, got there around 4:40, went on sale at 3. Took about twenty minutes for the offer to not go through. Guy says he's been dealing with that all day. Had a couple that one of theirs went through and the others didn't. Finally he does it again, takes about ten minutes, gets to the final confirmation and BAM sold out. It's not just the fact they sold out, it's the fact of the hassle. I had to wait thirty minutes because of problems and it ends up selling out in the process all because they have it set up where all the game stops are ordering from a site instead of just rationing out so many per store. Now I'm gonna probably have to spend $30 or more for ness, which I normally wouldn't do, but I already have ten of the original twelve fighters and would hate not having them all. Luckily target has said they'll have some in store on the day, so I'll just hope to get there before they open for jigglypuff.

And I also must agree on yoshi, I'd kill for all three of them
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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/04/videogame-publishers-no-preserving-abandoned-games-even-museums-and-archives

This is... insanity. I don't even know what goes through the heads of people in this industry anymore.
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