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| Topic Started: Jun 8 2015, 09:27 PM (1,095 Views) | |
| MrMarill | Jun 16 2015, 09:28 PM Post #31 |
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Not a Metroid game, series I don't care about, spin-off that will still probably retail at premium price, game coming out next week, game we knew about, game we knew about, game we knew about, game we knew about. I wanted some games I did not know about, some major announcements and a presentation that didn't make me feel like a five year old being told off. I am upset due to literally one new Wii U game being shown and that game being Animal Crossing that I do not care about. With a new system on the way, that just tells me that Nintendo is done with the Wii U. The Wii U had basically no games in its first year so essentially started life late 2013. Two year life cycle on a machine worth £250. Fuckin' gold.
This is just not true. Metroid is all about isolation and exploration. It's about an experience developing the game world and yourself as a character/person. Samus starts off being shit and by the end is kicking ass in every direction. It's a personal adventure. It isn't and has never been about blasting things with a federation. The last Metroid game was 2007 (Other M does not count) and after eight years I get... a spin-off game that has no relation the Metroid series with Metroid slapped on the box for sales. Fuckin' gold. I've been a Nintendo fan for my entire life and I just do not know why I have defended them so long. Was all they showed trash? Nope. Mario and Luigi looked great, I'm sure some people are excited for Animal Crossing and Mario Maker. But the thing is that all of these games are going to retail for full price with minimal content just like Captain Toad's Adventure did. I put these games side by side with games Horizon and just wonder why I'm bothering to defend them at all. Indie games focused on one cool gimmick retail for £10-£15 but Nintendo get away with it because they're Nintendo. I mean as a Nintendo fan I've been happily shoveled the same shit while other companies floundered but not this year. Sony and Microsoft are showing good responses to fan feedback, new games that show the development of the industry and Nintendo showed literally not a single new IP or game that seems even approaching worth their price tag. No new IPs isn't necessarily a bad thing but I am very, very sceptical that the new Zelda game will be worth the £35 it'll retail for and inevitably stay at. And as for Mario Maker... it looks fun and all but there's a point at which "this is pretty fun" stops being worth £45+ because it says Nintendo on the box and starts being worth the actual price that indies are retailing at. |
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| Romanticide | Jun 16 2015, 09:42 PM Post #32 |
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I forgot Ubisoft's and Sony's conferences almost entirely. I'd say I did Monday right. Only got one bingo tho, which kind of shocked me. ANYWAY. Microsoft has so far "won" E3, as it were. Backwards compatibility is incredible. People seem to think "lol who cares all digital future gg", but the fact of the matter is there are people who want to play old games/games they missed out on last gen. Shocking to this industry/its talking heads, I guess. HoloLens looks incredible, but we saw it in a very controlled environment. I think the idea is probably 5-10 years ahead of the tech, but if it isn't, it's a #gamechanger. Idk if I'd buy an Xbox system for it, but it'd still be great for the medium as a whole. The games were more colorful than I'd have thought. We joked about 7th gen being grey, brown, and black, but the games MS showed off here used all sorts of wonderful, gorgeous color. Beyond Eyes was one of the most beautiful games I saw yesterday, and is still one of the most beautiful games of the conference IMO. Great artstyles and colors go pretty far. Recore looks like Casshern Sins: The Game, which I'd buy in about three seconds if I had the system (or if it comes to PC). Cuphead reminds me how hard most modern American cartoons suck artistically, and thus why I don't watch them. I mean srsly, we can't make shit look better than stuff from the 30s or 50s? Tacoma is from Fullbright, so it kicks ass by default. I feel like I'm not remembering other games that looked interesting, but whatever. It was a good conference. Not mind-blowing or anything, but MS consistently delivered the goods and that's what I expect from E3. Ending on Gears of War does nothing for me, but it's a good way to end the conference. EA gon EA. I don't have a lot more to say than that. Well, okay, they got Pele to show up, which is pretty impressive regardless of one's stance on lolsportsgames. People might say it was awkward or whatever, but I thought he had a good grasp on English and was generally entertaining. *shrug* I don't expect a whole lot; these people aren't paid to sit on stages and talk our ears off. Ubisoft had nothing I really cared about, which is what I expected. Nothing was *awful*, as such, but nothing really grabbed me and made me feel I had to have this. It was just there. Woo The Last Guardian exists. I enjoyed the artstyle a lot; it's one of the better-looking games of the show. I'm not as hyped as the internet seems to be about this, but I still hope it's good. FF7 remake is... a thing. It'll sell like hotcakes and I guess Squeenix needs that at this point? *shrug* Not excited for it unless it's more than just an HD remake or something. Game had issues that won't be resolved with a new coat of paint. And so we get to the disappointment of the show. I missed the first twenty minutes of Nintendo, which meant I missed everything I cared about. X on 12/5? FE? SMTxFE? Missed them all. But thanks to the internet, I've already seen these trailers. They would have been the high point of the conference for me. Yoshi's Woolly World is still kawaii as fuck, but what is not kawaii is RELEASING THE FUCKING GAME IN OCTOBER. I guess that gives me time to save money for it/other vidya, but Nintendo's release schedule has been fucking barren this year. Something to tide us over until Star Fox or whatever would have been nice. Nintendo revealed nothing of substance. All I know of the Metroid game is that the name is attached to Blast Ball. If I cared more about the series, I'd look into that trailer, but I don't. Paper Mario is cool as always, but I'm going to wait and see before getting too hyped about that because the series' recent history isn't inspiring. Even if it's good (it looked better than Sticker Star, anyway), it's not the sort of reveal Ninty needed. They needed something that would wow the audience and make us believe our investment in a *Wii U* was justified. Our 3DS investments have been long since justified. Wii U? Maybe not so much. (X and SMTxFE are more than #worth to me, but they're niche and as importantly, they aren't *now*.) Zelda skipping E3 was dumb as fuck and indefensible. I've heard they had some good stuff to show, but they wouldn't show it today. I... don't get it. I don't understand why you wouldn't show your biggest title at the biggest event. It wouldn't have saved this presentation unless it were like 5-10 minutes, but it would have given us something to look forward to. I don't mind the developer stories, but they did drag on a bit long. We're here to watch fucking video game footage, not ten minute developer stories. Basically the issues were nogaems and developer stuff that took too long. This is all correctable stuff (and Ninty has done better), but it requires being able to conceptualize what people will think of your presentation. Every other show had something that wowed someone. Nintendo? Lolno, fuck that, we'll rely on our meager fall/winter releases to hype people. Square Enix showed off a bunch of good stuff. Just Cause 3 was probably the *lowlight*, and even that was... I guess more Just Cause, which is good if you're a fan. I'll definitely be playing Just Cause 2 at some point because sometimes you just want a mindless romp and the game seems to deliver on that. Maybe that'll hype me for 3. Hitman sounds like it might be cool, but I'm more than a little suspicious of the language used. It'll always challenge you? It'll always grow? I feel these things are easy to say and hard to deliver on. Deus Ex looked like more Deus Ex, which is to say it looked awesome. Too much yellow filter though. I can't wait to see some actual gameplay of this, though I already know I'll be buying it at some point. The weeb stuff was cool but you know I'm into that. I'm excited about World of Final Fantasy, that artstyle is just too cute. Not Yoshi cute because I died of that game's adorableness, but still very cute. Star Ocean looked great in motion and I hope they hit 60 FPS. I don't think they *need to*, but it can only help the game. I ain't even into dat KH but the gameplay looked fun and the artstyle was great.
We already crowdfund every other game. You know how? BY BUYING PREVIOUS EFFORTS. The only difference here is that they're asking us to directly fund the product, as opposed to the usual indirect way. I don't think the difference is all that big. I hate this "omg its for teh starvin artists only" mentality. Let's be real: Those starving artists people champion aren't very well-known/don't have a lot of resources (the latter is, of course, why they're crowdfunding) and thus they won't be able to make big, ambitious projects like, I don't know, a full-fledged video game. People act like crowdfunding means poorer artists will be able to do something that outstrips all of their previous work, but without putting in the legwork to build a fanbase that can and will support that, they won't get jack shit and they won't be able to make that revolutionary indie game, that cool new album, or whatever. Need, don't need. At the end of the day they are useless terms. Everyone "needs" money. It's just that Sony can raise it via other avenues that aren't available to many people. Sony *could* afford to take a risk, but in this gaming environment, where one failure can sink a studio and make stockholders angry? Nobody takes a fucking risk. If Sony has to crowdfund so we get niche games and if people are willing to pay, the problem is... What? You might say "that money could have went towards a project that needs it more", but the inherent assumption is that people *want that project*. If they don't? It's not a lost pledge. |
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| MrMarill | Jun 16 2015, 09:54 PM Post #33 |
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This is the main thing here. While as of this second in time I still believe that the Wii U is the strongest console to own compared to PC obviously being the best, that's going to be changing soon. I bought a Wii U a few years ago and while I own twelve or so games, I only regularly play three - Mario Kart, Splatoon and Smash - the former two because I have friends who still play it and the latter because of social reasons and competitive reasons. There's still not a single game on the Wii U that's going to get non-Nintendo fans over to it except arguably Xenoblade. I'm not a Sony fan but I'll buy a PS4 for those JRPGs. I'm not a Microsoft fan but I'll buy an Xbox One for Tomb Raider (and Recored if it continues to look good). If you're not a Nintendo fan, I really don't know what's encouraging you to buy the system at all. The only Wii U game I'm going to buy this year made by Nintendo is StarFox which is not exactly a game that broadens the demographic, y'know? Also, like I said, I'm sceptical StarFox will have an acceptable level of content so I'm reeeaaally hoping it does. Also Nintendo need to spend less time between games talking about fuck all. Developer stories were interesting but not during a conference. The puppet gags were funny but, again, not during a conferences. And the "body is ready" memes need to stop. Please. |
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| CALJR_8760 | Jun 16 2015, 10:53 PM Post #34 |
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Its not the crowdfunding itself, its the fact it happened during their e3 press conference. It was basically like saying, hey we won't fund this game, so you should instead. Much more insulting from the fact that they have zero games coming this year. They'd rather pay for exclusive content instead of exclusive games. It's a middle finger to those that bought their austen that their not willing to give their consumer's actual games |
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| MrMarill | Jun 16 2015, 10:55 PM Post #35 |
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Yeah Sony's conference was great and all but everyone's totally ignoring the total absence of games this year for the system. I'm personally happy cuz it makes my decision of Xbox One vs PS4 veeeeery easy come Christmas time but I'm not sure how Sony are expecting to make money with no software. |
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| Volt | Jun 17 2015, 12:34 AM Post #36 |
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There's nothing I can really add about Nintendo's conference that hasn't been said already. They disappointed me a lot, and make me question the future of the console. I want to believe, but they're making it SO hard to. Not just that, but how poorly they've handled pretty much everything with the Wii U. Now they're talking about their next system, which basically tells me that they're finishing up the Wii U and moving focus to this new console. When I got a Wii U, I got it with the promise of a future of many great Nintendo games. So far the only truly great games I've gotten on Wii U are Smash Bros and Splatoon (neither of which are solid single player experiences). I'm really starting to feel that the Wii U was truly a failure and not actually worth getting. It saddens me. I'm still gonna get Star Fox, Fire Emblem stuff and Xenoblade though. As for the other conferences, both Microsoft and Sony delivered hard. I have so much to look forward to. Microsoft has a strong 2015 lineup and Sony a strong 2016 lineup, looks like I will have a lot to play for the next few years. EA was better than Ubisoft, but only because two of their games (Mirror's Edge 2 and Battlefront) I've been anticipating for years. Both conferences sucked in general. There wasn't really anything shown at Bethesda's that I want to get, except maybe Doom. Square Enix, I basically want everything they showed, to varying degrees. My poor wallet. If I had to rank the conferences, it'd be like this: Microsoft = Sony > Square Enix > EA > Bethesda > Ubisoft > Nintendo. |
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| CALJR_8760 | Jun 17 2015, 04:20 AM Post #37 |
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http://m.ign.com/articles/2015/06/17/e3-2015-what-metroid-primes-producer-wants-in-the-next-sequel Sounds like hints that the game is a lead up to prime 4, along with prime hunters |
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| Romanticide | Jun 17 2015, 04:22 AM Post #38 |
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Yeah, that sentiment is more understandable. The whole *point* of E3 is to get us to buy their damn games, so being like "oh lol we also want you to fund this game, in addition to buying our other games" can come across as a dick move. Anyway, the PC gaming show. The tl;dr: It was an abomination. It was easily the worst conference of the day, and it's not even close. Most of us thought Ninty was bad. This was far worse. It neared MS 2013 levels. What was good: -AMD's new cards get hype -Beyond Eyes -Tacoma -No Man's Sky -I guess Deus Ex gameplay, though it looked like Deus Ex and wasn't anything new. -Enter the Gungeon was more interesting that that WOAT name would have you believe. I doubt I'll get it any time soon after launch, but mite b cool. -Gigantic or whatever that one shooter/MOBA at Microsoft's conference was. Not into it but I can see how it has appeal. -Lorde song in the Total War: Warhammer trailer The opening trailer was straight up garbage. I should have abandoned ship when I saw a guy pouring Mountain Dew into a wine glass. US PC GAMERS XDXDXDXD!!!1!@2#! I love Mountain Dew as much as any other gamer, but reducing us (or any group) to a bunch of stereotypes is lazy fucking humor. There was too much fucking talking. I get wanting to hear from people who are making cool shit, but every interview dragged on and on and on and I aged about twelve years tonight. If I had bothered to time the talking, I'd probably have gotten 75+ minutes, easily, which is longer than some of these fucking pressers have been in their entirety. I would have been very surprised to see 10+ minutes of gameplay. We don't watch these for the talking; we watch them to see NEW FUCKING VIDEO GAMES. This concept is not hard to understand, people. Show new video games (and gameplay, ideally, but trailers without gameplay will always exist) first, then talk. Too many guests. Again, I get wanting to hear from people, but does anyone want to sit through 15-20 guests to enjoy new video games? I sure as shit don't. If I did want to hear from these random jabronis I'd be watching that company's events/YouTube channel. I *do not care* about most of these people. It's that simple, really. I would have enjoyed it if they cut the guest count in half, if not further than that. Not everyone who's making some random shit deserves to be on fucking stage, even if PC has by far the widest variety of games. The show opened with... Killing Floor 2. Because nothing gets me more excited about video games than what amounts to a gore simulator. Good fucking job. No other medium would revel in such absurd amounts of gore and violence (because their fans recognize schlock and do not give it a place on the biggest stages), but video games? A lot of people are happy to roll around in it like pigs roll in shit. Strafe looks like the hottest pile of garbage I've ever seen at a conference. Minecraft aesthetic? Procedural generation? Fuck outta here. I know, graphics aren't everything but I don't see how that game looks like any amount of fun either. We had a WORLD EXCLUSIVE for a fucking feature in an MMO. Sure, Guild Wars 2 might be a good game, but... Really? We needed to dedicate time to a feature instead of an expansion or a new video game? I guess that adds to Guild Wars 2, but again: Really? I don't think I can emphasize this level of stupid enough. I got nothing else. Most other things I haven't mentioned weren't that great, but they didn't annoy me enough to post anything about them. It was two and a half hours of mostly meh tier shit, along with some real stinkers. As with Nintendo, every problem is *correctable*, but it takes being able to see what we didn't like and realizing, "hey, maybe we need to show some VIDEO GAMES at a VIDEO GAME CONFERENCE". I was hyped for this and this is the biggest letdown of E3 for me, by far. Probably ever. I never expect anything of MS, so 2013 didn't disappoint, but this did because I expected a quality presentation with quality video games. I got none of the former and very little of the latter. |
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| DucksFAN93 | Jun 17 2015, 04:34 AM Post #39 |
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You literally worded that perfectly. I have no words. *slow clap* |
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| MrMarill | Jun 17 2015, 02:06 PM Post #40 |
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I take offence at "Guild Wars 2 is a good game". People around the internet defending Nintendo because they "don't necessarily have to show new games". Someone fetch me a shotgun. |
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| Outlaw454 | Jun 17 2015, 04:02 PM Post #41 |
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Also the little clip of Day[9] struggling to stand while he was playing on the Oculus Rift was pretty amusing. |
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| Romanticide | Jun 17 2015, 11:54 PM Post #42 |
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Just leaving the undisputed best game of E3 here. (inb4 "But that's not The Last Guardian/Nier 2/FF7 remake", etc.) http://kotaku.com/new-shin-megami-vs-fire-emblem-trailer-is-a-hot-jrpg-me-1711813671 http://kotaku.com/i-am-so-hyped-about-shin-megami-x-fire-emblem-1712088833 |
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| Antunee | Jun 17 2015, 11:59 PM Post #43 |
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>Best game at E3 >Not Fallout 4 Okay. |
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| DucksFAN93 | Jun 18 2015, 12:26 AM Post #44 |
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I don't think Fallout 4 was very impressive at all. I'm most excited to see Horizon. THAT game stole the show for me. |
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| MrMarill | Jun 18 2015, 06:44 PM Post #45 |
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Horizon looked fucking Godlike. That and the seven JRPGs Square showed off are enough to bring me over to PS4. Realistically I was always going to get one for Street Fighter 5 as it'll almost certainly be the system the competitive community settles on (try bringing a PC on the train to a venue for these things) but y'know. |
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