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Hypothetical Situation
Topic Started: Sep 4 2015, 10:14 AM (247 Views)
Mike
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Inspired from withheldforprivacy.

Hypothetical Situation
Hypothetically, say the units read from all of the scouters in the series were in indecipherable, some alien unit + number we didn't know, and Bulma never fixed the scouter to have normal readings. So we couldn't determine power gaps in the series (i,e; not knowing Saiyan arc Vegeta is 2.25x Goku, not knowing 1st form Freeza is 12x Nail, not knowing Raditz is 3-4x Goku, not knowing Goku when arriving on Namek is 1.33x weaker than Ginyu (since we couldn't divide his Kaioken x2 by a number), etc..). Or simply put, there were no scouter readings, and no supplemental guidebook information on battle powers. Who do you think would win these fights?

1. Yajirobe (Saiyan arc) vs. Goku (23rd TB)
2. Krillin (post-Guru) vs. Vegeta (Saiyan arc) - (If Krillin loses, make it Saiyan arc Goku; no Kaioken)
3. Monster Zarbon vs. Nail
4. Base Goku (Arrival on Namek; no Kaioken) vs. Captain Ginyu
5. Base Goku (Arrival on Namek; Kaioken x10) vs. Freeza (1st form)
6. Vegeta (Saiyan arc; Great Ape) vs. Captain Ginyu
7. Gohan (Saiyan arc; has the will to fight) vs. Raditz
8. Chaozu (Saiyan arc) vs. Goku and Piccolo (Beginning of Z)
9. Goku (Saiyan arc; Kaioken x3) vs. Zarbon (Beautiful)
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Koshka
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1. Yajirobe being stronger just seems to make sense considering his feats against Vegeta and the fact that God never singled Yajirobe out for anything after he let everybody leave.
2. Vegeta was more shocked by Gohan's power and he mistakened Gohan for Saiya-jin arc Goku so Vegeta would win. Not sure about Goku.
3. No idea.
4. Goku seemed to be a bit above Ginyu without Kaio-ken so he would win.
5. Goku stomps.
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1. Yadjorobe was just stated to be above Kami, whereas 23rd TB Goku was implied to be way above that level.
Verdict: Goku.
2. Without numbers, nothing supports this Krillin is even Nappa's level. Verdict: Vegeta.
3. Nail is also viewed as below Nappa without numbers. Remember, at Saiyans Saga, Nappa treated that race
with contempt. Verdict: Monster Zarbon.
4. This is the most tricky. When Ginyu arrived, Goku said he wonders whether he can handle him, which
implies Base Goku~Ginyu. On the other hand, we have Ginyu's confidence before seeing the kaioken, but
that can be the classic villain's cockiness. I'll go by Goku's statement and have them even, with Goku finding
a way to win. Verdict: Goku.
5. Freeza was viewed as omnipotent at this point, but we also have Ginyu believing 2x Kaioken Goku is
the legendary Super Saiyan. I think that, for plot purposes, if those two fought, they'd be even and Goku
would find a way to win. Verdict: Goku.
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Mike
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Sep 4 2015, 07:42 PM
2. Without numbers, nothing supports this Krillin is even Nappa's level. Verdict: Vegeta.
Would you really assume Gurd is much weaker than Nappa, though? Krillin's power up is implied to be massive and Vegeta's Saiyan arc level is really fodder at this point to most of the new enemies.
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Lol, i never viewed Gurd as above Nappa.
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Mike
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I thought of more match ups.

1. Vegeta (Saiyan arc; Great Ape) vs. Captain Ginyu
2. Gohan (Saiyan arc; has the will to fight) vs. Raditz
3. Chaozu (Saiyan arc) vs. Goku and Piccolo (Beginning of Z)
4. Goku (Saiyan arc; Kaioken x3) vs. Zarbon (Beautiful)
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You are a sad motherfucker, Yoshi.
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Koshka
Sep 4 2015, 10:47 AM
4. Goku seemed to be a bit above Ginyu without Kaio-ken so he would win.
Goku only surpassed him in flight speed during that fight. In terms of power, he was unable to put up any resistance against Ginyu's hold and called him "monstrously strong" or something along those lines. All things considered, Ginyu had the edge in power - not to mention that Jheese stated that Ginyu's maximum power was 120K, but never stated that he had raised it to that yet (while this is a hypothetical situation, it is worth noting Ginyu appears to not be at full power there). Without Kaioken, Goku's inferiority in power was evident.
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