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Affirmitive Action/Problems with Black Society
Topic Started: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:25 am (165 Views)
Princess
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First of all, this is intended in no way to be racist.

I think the major problem with the black society is the way in which most live. Quite a percentage of blacks live in ghettos and projects, and it's really not fair. Most end up as drug dealers or criminals to get by, because they never had a fair chance for a good education, or good job opporunities. I respect any black man or woman who is able to get themselves out of this cycle. They deserve a medal for this just as much as any war veteran.
But why do the blacks live such ways? Surely if they tried hard enough, they could find a way to break free of their financial restraints, right? Well, unfortunately, not always. The major problem is urban culture. You have to look 'fly', especially if you're black. Brands of clothes like Puma. Products like these are destroying black America. With shoes and name brand accessories costing well into 3 or 400 dollars, buying the latest fashion is far worse than any drug addiction. Bill Cosby as stated his disgust with Black America for living this way, refusing to believe his people are being destoryed by such stupid things. Enter: Affiritive Action.
Not everyone agrees with Affirmitive Action, and I can't possibly understand why. For those of you who don't know, Affirimitve Action is a code meant to help break the cycle that blacks are ensared in. If a black and white man, both equally qualified for the same job both apply, then you must hire the black man. Chances are, he needs the job the most. Unfortunately, not everyone abides by this. Some people are also misinformed about it. Some people think that it's purpose is to somehow make the workplace more efficient by being more diversified. Or some think it's just a conspiracy to get back at the white man. Not true at all.

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This crude diagram represents the state of general Americans. The white man has always had it good. We've enslaved or oppressed just about every other race, and we've kept women almost completely silenced for centuries. Blakcs, freed from slavery, are having a hard time catching up, thanks to certain conditions. Women are in a little better condition, but they have never been able to be outspoken until just a few decades ago. Affirmitive Action is designed to help future generations of blacks and other races by 'giving their dad a break', so he can help make a better life for himself and his family by getting a good job, and working his way up. But sometimes it's just up to the person.
Ever watched the show 'The Boondocks'? It airs on Adult Swim at Cartoon Network. It's created by a black man named Aaron McCrudger, and it pokes fun at black society. See the episodes 'Return of the King' or 'Nigga Moments.' It shows the flaw in black reasoning, and helps explain why our country is so poverty-stricken. If more blacks would watch this show, and realize that they could be more than just 'niggas', then they could help keep their kids from being drug dealers and working on street corners. I empathize for black America, and I wish I could do more to help. But it makes me so mad to stand by and watch as some choose to ruin their lives. Eh, what do you guys think? Sorry for the long rant, but... I dunno.


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B
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Affirmative action is legalized racism.
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Am25
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u know its not jus the black kids that spend money to look fly
theres poor white kids that do the same

n yea i got friends that deal drugs cuz they need the money n shit
cuz they dont got a role model in life
mite sound kinda funny, but shits true
i know from experince
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UnConquerable
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B
Dec 14 2006, 01:38 AM
Affirmative action is legalized racism.

I agree. we live in a society so full of oportunities thats its bullshit when people say that they dont get enough opportunity...if you maintain a GPA of 3.5 or more and get a decent score on the SATs in high school which isnt hard to do at all you will get a paid ride through college...if a kid cant acheive that its not because he is black or white or azn but because he doesnt wana do the haard work. We live in a great country where the system is very fair to everyone so to those whiners out there...you just need to work hard and results will show.
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Etra
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u know its not jus the black kids that spend money to look fly
theres poor white kids that do the same

There are more black people that receive welfare than white.

Am25
 
n yea i got friends that deal drugs cuz they need the money n shit
cuz they dont got a role model in life
mite sound kinda funny, but shits true
i know from experince

Your friends are idiots. If they needed money, they wouldn't be selling drugs, they'd be applying for a job.

I don't see how having a role model has anything to do with a person selling drugs to make money.

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Affirmative action is legalized racism.

Agreed.
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Princess
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I'm not saying their opportunities are limited. I'm talking about getting back on track. Some black guy drops out in high school, 10 years later he decides he wants to better himself. Today's world is fairly fast paced, and the only way that guy is gonna get a job is if someone cuts him a break. But yes, it IS legalized racism. But that doesn't mean it can't be helpful.
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MeLd
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I totally agree with RedStealth.
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B
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So he drops out of Highschool, decides he wants to better himself, and gets to cut infront of the white guy who stayed in high and worked hard? Bullshit, shut up.

And thanks for showing you support racism.

You're no better than the KKK not wanting black people to vote. If people want to elimate racism in the united states we can't have the goverment supporting it.
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Princess
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How am I comparitive to the KKK when I'm FOR Affirmitive Action? yes, he does get to cut in front of the white guy, because statistically speaking, he needs the job more than the white guy. More blacks are living in poverty than whites, which is the whole point of the system. I'm not saying the white guy doesn't deserve a chance, but the white applicant is probably more financially stable than the black applicant.
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B
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Maybe he wouldn't be in finaincial trouble if he didn't drop out of school. But what If the white guy needs the job more, i guess he's fucked right?

Maybe if the black community as a whole would stop living with their heads up their own ass and decided to better themselves for now and for the future, they wouldn't be living in poverty, they choose this life, we don't.

I'm strongly against affrimative action, minority scholarships, and anything that gives one race a hand up on the other.
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Princess
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That's your opinion, and there's nothing wrong with it. But the whole point of this topic was me saying what you just said - the black comminuty has problems, and the ones living in the ghettos are being self-destructive. Which is why we need Affirmitive Action. It's not always fair, granted, but it's some sort of system for those who've made mistakes.
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Wow. You wanna talk about they dont have fair chances? You're fucken stupid, If you have ever been to high school, you would see the black kids being stupid, they don't try because they don't care. Don't blame everyone else saying They never had a fair chance, they have the same chance as everyone else, they just don't take the chances they are given. I only know a few black kids that actually care about school, they stay out of drugs, they go to church, and they live in the projects, but they try, and they make best with what they have, they will be just as successful as any other white, asian, mexican, or anybody else. So don't give me bullshit its not fair, it's perfectly fair, stfu.
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Princess
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I said Affirmitive Action isn't always fair (white people sometimes get the shaft), read the paragraph better. No one's saying that blacks even under the most extreme conditions can't overcome with effort and will power.

I guess this all boils down to opinion. Every one of B's points were valid, but at the same time, you can't ignore the statistics and something has to be done. Affimitive Action has it's faults, but I think the good overcomes the bad in this case.
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ChEcKeRs
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Everyone has the same chance as anyother person that lives in the US.. Its just some choose to go other ways and take different paths. And about xtras post "there are more black people that recieve welfare then white." where did u get that information?

also "I don't see how having a role model has anything to do with a person selling drugs to make money." maybe there parents should get on there asses about that shit unstead of letting them do what ever the fuck they want........ having a role model makes a huge difference!!!
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Am25
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Dec 14 2006, 08:11 PM
Your friends are idiots. If they needed money, they wouldn't be selling drugs, they'd be applying for a job.



drug sellers might be doing a stupid thing by selling drugs, but they cannot be labeled idiots because an idiot wouldnt survive a week bein a drug dealer without getting locked up.

so lets not label people idiots when u dont know anything about them
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