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Left or Right?; Which are you?
Topic Started: Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:36 pm (735 Views)
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Princess
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He better not be straight :angry:
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TeaLaGe
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man i dont care about my government, i just wanna another world war :S
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Princess
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Just make sure you sign up to fight it. I ain't dying for your dumbass.
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noob
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Feb 25 2008, 12:30 AM
I'm pretty sure that in past societies where the government has done things like free health care and other free things, the society eventually broke down... I don't think that has happened since the technological age began though, so it may have no effect any more.... we'll just have to wait and see.

I am a conservative in just about every realm of politics, by that i mean i'm by no means a republican because since they took back the congress from the spending trigger-happy democrats they proceeded to let me down and do the worse that the dem's did.

I just wish we could elect people who do what they're expected to. Cutting taxes and starting wars bankrupts nations, it's not that complicated.

I believe in small governmentand personal accountability. I think minimum wage is a retarded idea that counteracts the entire free market system, along with unemployment, socialized healthcare, and wellfare. These, along with social security are the main reasons our government is bankrupting itself more and more by the hour.

Highschool's nowadays have so many seemingly useless requirements as far as classes go, yet we don't ask them to take a class on managing money. I think that is probably the most important thing one could take from school if it were taught. I mean, we're already cutting back on vocationaly courses which is also a huge mistake IMO.

It's shown time and time again, that no matter how much money you make you can still blow through it and end up sucking on society's teet (See the 13451235 has been celebs with hopeless cocaine addictions)

By the way, i'm working towards a political science major right now and i might end up venturing into politics itself, possibly just a speech writer or lobbyist/advisor, but who knows where i'll end up eh? So naturally i have strong opinions on the major issues, but i'd be interested in people who disagree with me explaining their viewpoint.

Or people who would like to bring up any other issues importnat to them as i am, right now, writing a detailed explanation of my beliefs on just about every issue i can think of in an attempt to outline my own philosphy and try not to flip flop on my reasonings.
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straight the middle of i dont give a fuck who wins
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Cribz
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woah woah guys i lean towards the left becuase it is more comfortable for my back but i am right handed..weird eh?
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Tonic
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Jul 19 2007, 12:42 AM
I ignore the "left" and the "right" and make up my mind based on the issues, not what I'm supposed to think based on my party or political leanings.

This is exactly why the U.S. Congress sucks so much right now.

It's your stances on issues that usually determine whether you are right or left. If someone is "left", it's because they agree on the same issues as other "lefties". Your political affiliation doesn't shape your opinions. Your opinions shape your political affiliations.
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I don't know if the people who are talking about all this left handed and right handed bullshit are trying to be funny or are mentally handicapped. But I will say that party affiliation is complete bullshit. Candidates that represent a party always have a few beliefs that are counter to who they represent. Therefore I say fuck parties and vote for who is most qualified for the job.
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Sun Dec 7, 2008 11:26 am
I don't know if the people who are talking about all this left handed and right handed bullshit are trying to be funny or are mentally handicapped. But I will say that party affiliation is complete bullshit. Candidates that represent a party always have a few beliefs that are counter to who they represent. Therefore I say fuck parties and vote for who is most qualified for the job.
I don't get it though... being the most qualified for a position is just that. How they interpret laws and other essential ideals is the larger issue. Hell, I could be a scout leader, war hero, and dedicated polititian but still be a fascist. This may be an extreme example but do understand the point. Yes, I too believe that party affiliations are whack. People just like to vote with what they are affiliated with, even regardless sometimes.
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What I'm saying is voting for someone just because you think they represent the party you chose to belong to is retarded. I'm not saying do blind voting either. And if people want to vote for fascists...then let them vote.
Edited by Dope, Tue Dec 9, 2008 1:18 am.
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I don't know if the people who are talking about all this left handed and right handed bullshit are trying to be funny or are mentally handicapped. But I will say that party affiliation is complete bullshit. Candidates that represent a party always have a few beliefs that are counter to who they represent. Therefore I say fuck parties and vote for who is most qualified for the job.
I don't get it though... being the most qualified for a position is just that. How they interpret laws and other essential ideals is the larger issue. Hell, I could be a scout leader, war hero, and dedicated polititian but still be a fascist. This may be an extreme example but do understand the point. Yes, I too believe that party affiliations are whack. People just like to vote with what they are affiliated with, even regardless sometimes.
Nowadays the number of people who vote majorly along party lines is dwindling more and more every election. Fact is 90 some odd % of the electorate is damn near the middle of the spectrum and tend to change sides with every couple elections. Personally i don't believe in giving one party both the white house and congress, because all too often it leads to reckless government. To be honest, I'd rather have a government that does nothing for my generation than a government that does nothing but fuck things up for my grandkids.
Edited by noob, Tue Dec 9, 2008 3:29 am.
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Tue Dec 9, 2008 1:18 am
What I'm saying is voting for someone just because you think they represent the party you chose to belong to is retarded. I'm not saying do blind voting either. And if people want to vote for fascists...then let them vote.
If you think about it, no true fascist would want to be The President of the United States. Not a smart fascist anyway. A fascist President would be in a world of frustration and failure in regards to what he wants. I don't know of any person, despite political party, that would want to live in that kind of world. Seems like a perpetual headache to me.

I thought more about it and realized that a fascist President actually might be fairly successful. Because if he or she were elected, that means the majority of people support him or her, which also means that congress probably supports him or her, and that's the President's biggest enemy. But obviously, we won't be having a fascist President anytime in the near future. Our country would have to nearly fall apart for that to happen. And if it did fall apart, we probably wouldn't even have an election and totalitarians will eventually rise to power and we will be amidst a civil war. Exciting stuff. So actually, a fascist President would probably never occur because of the way things naturally unfold. And the phrase "fascist President" is kind of an oxymoron.

Lol sorry I know you weren't talking about that, but I had to say something. :o

Edited by Aztec, Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:03 am.
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Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:57 am
I thought more about it and realized that a fascist President actually might be fairly successful. Because if he or she were elected, that means the majority of people support him or her, which also means that congress probably supports him or her, and that's the President's biggest enemy. But obviously, we won't be having a fascist President anytime in the near future. Our country would have to nearly fall apart for that to happen. And if it did fall apart, we probably wouldn't even have an election and totalitarians will eventually rise to power and we will be amidst a civil war. Exciting stuff. So actually, a fascist President would probably never occur because of the way things naturally unfold. And the phrase "fascist President" is kind of an oxymoron.

Lol sorry I know you weren't talking about that, but I had to say something. :o

booo! what a retarded situation!
but it could happen.. america today could use a nice fascist kick in the nuts
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A hell of a lot of people that vote, are just democrats or republicans no matter what happens... like my cousins hardcore republican no matter who the hell is voting. And then theres the people in the middle, who may be like.. oh hes against abortion, vote him, or oh, he's a certain religion for him. Then theres people who are truly attracted to ideas and propositions, no matter that some downfalls will occur. I mean you can't have a perfect president. Even if he believed everything you did, it wouldn't all go through.
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I hate blind voting too. I also hate people who said this " I'm voting for Obama because he is black" It's like wow, are you that ignorant. No one votes because they believe someone is a good candidate to lead the United States, it's all about who they like. Well, All I can say is the next four years are going to be one hell of a ride with the big "O" in the white house.
I am for a strict interpretation of the Constitution as well.
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FaZ-,Jul 19 2007
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I ignore the "left" and the "right" and make up my mind based on the issues, not what I'm supposed to think based on my party or political leanings.

This is exactly why the U.S. Congress sucks so much right now.

It's your stances on issues that usually determine whether you are right or left. If someone is "left", it's because they agree on the same issues as other "lefties". Your political affiliation doesn't shape your opinions. Your opinions shape your political affiliations.
That may be true, but how is it that so many people have the same idea on abortion and gay rights? And on the death penalty, and countless other issues. You may choose your political party based on the opinions of what matters most to you, but your other opinions are forced, especially for a congressman, because going against your party's typical ideal is political suicide.
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That's a good point too. Which is why I say politics is bullshit. Most of the political figureheads in the US used financial influences and did dark deeds for other people to get to where they are at. Shit is really corrupt as fuck. You have to know people, or know shit about people to get there.
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That it is. Politics is full of corruption and theres no way to get around that. Power and corruption almost always go nearly hand in hand. And at Loki, you say that voting in America is bad, look at like Canada. I swear, if you politics is not serious in America, compare it to Canada. Nearly half of my fucking country doesn't even get off their sorry asses and vote..
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Damn, see I'm very active when it comes to voting...I believe everyone needs to vote, use the right. I just hate ignorant votes.
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