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| Tweet Topic Started: Thu Nov 1, 2007 12:47 am (1,522 Views) | |
| FaZ- | Tue Nov 6, 2007 6:45 pm Post #41 |
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True. Evolution and Creationism are not necessarily disjoint theories. |
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| Bravo | Tue Nov 6, 2007 9:45 pm Post #42 |
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Lol your asking if i can contradict a single thing? Alright well lets see.. So God created the world in six days and rested on the seventh right? Well by tracing back the geneaologies of the Bible which are laid out in the Genesis, as you gave me, it is accepted that this "divine action" occured about 6 thousand years ago. Thats really to bad because the earth is at least 4.5 billion years old. And what the Genesis suggests that this act occured suddenly, well that can't possible be true because the earth has seen millions of years of gradual change, through scientific proof. Yes those "various layers of rock and segmented layers of the earth" do show us these, even though that is not what anthropology is about. Contradict much? Well, lets move on, God also said that he created the first man in his image and created the women to help out the men aka Adam and Eve. That's also to bad considering modern Humans have been on earth at least 130 000 years ago. This is where that Intro class in Anthro reputes this BS, since you seemed so interested. Don't see a contradiction? Speaking of Biblical figures, these so called people of Genesis lived around 900 years old. Adam himself lived 930 years old. Considering that the oldest person to ever live on earth to this day was 122 years old and considering that humans have been on earth for at least 130 000 years, and there have never been a single human ever living past 150 years old, before the creation by this "divine god" during and after, as studied by fossils. Again, Intro Anthro. But I'm still sure you don't see a contradiction. How about when Eve ate the forbidden fruit and God cursed the serpent that tempted EVeto crawl on its belly thus becoming a snake. Snakes, like all other animals, evolved due to a response from their environment in order to keep up with the environment and ensure their survival, so really it's not a curse, just an acquired characteristics in order to ensure their survival. I'd rather believe something with concrete and alot of evidence such as Charles Darwins theory of evolution then some joke story about how the earth evolved where contradictions can be found in every page of the bible. This does not mean that relgion does not have its uses because it does and sometimes brings out the best of people, such as Mother Teresa, whom I admire alot. |
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| Geofari | Wed Nov 7, 2007 12:07 am Post #43 |
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nobody knows how old the earth is or how old or how long humans have been on the earth even carbon/uranium dating fails sometimes scientists uranium dated a clam shell, that was a few weeks old turns out that its over a million years old go figure? |
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| TeaLaGe | Wed Nov 7, 2007 12:25 am Post #44 |
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tell me, what has god done for you? has he prevented the death of your family members?? have he ever shown any proof of existence?, until i see some proof, i wont be a full believer. |
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| FaZ- | Wed Nov 7, 2007 1:29 am Post #45 |
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Again, you're evaluating God. Who says he can't put fossil remains of humans into the ground that are older than the world, or alter the carbon levels in various remains. No, there's no proof, but there is no disproof either. Also, I highly doubt you've ever carried out a carbon dating, just like you've never actually witnessed a miracle. Both religion and evolution require faith, the places where it lies are simply different. |
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| Late | Wed Nov 7, 2007 1:31 am Post #46 |
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the explanation : not even god can stop FATE. |
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| Bravo | Wed Nov 7, 2007 1:35 am Post #47 |
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So your telling me that "God" would intentionally contradict itself in the Bible/Tanak? C'mon even religious fanatics don't use this kind of retarded excuse. |
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| Geofari | Wed Nov 7, 2007 1:41 am Post #48 |
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thats a false comparison =\ i havent done a carbon date but it has been done |
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| FaZ- | Wed Nov 7, 2007 1:56 am Post #49 |
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Miracles have been done too. There's one you can read about earlier in this thread. It has exactly as much proof to me as someone telling me that a carbon dating revealed that a bone is 74,000 years old: none. Again, Bravo: you're missing the point. The Bible might be wrong, but that doesn't make evolution right. They are two entirely different things. |
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| Geofari | Wed Nov 7, 2007 2:24 am Post #50 |
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ur a person with little beliefs carbon dating works its uranium dating that is sketchy |
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| Etra | Wed Nov 7, 2007 6:00 pm Post #51 |
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Carbon dating is only accurate when used on something that is estimated to be up to about 50,000 to 60,000 years old. |
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| Lintendo | Wed Nov 7, 2007 10:39 pm Post #52 |
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there can't be if the blowoff to any proof we show is that god had madeit that way and god put that there on purpose, just to fuck with us all. another weird thing i notice is that alotta ppl say
well then who started god, was god just always there?, u can accept that there is this being that had always existed but u can't accept that all matter had always existed, in a giant clump or however the big bang theory goes. It's essentially the same thing. Either way, something had always been there since the beginning of time. |
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| Dai | Wed Nov 7, 2007 11:32 pm Post #53 |
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Way off to the side of the argument at hand..my opinion. I believe in Satan far more than i do in God. I believe one should not be rewarded for living a "good" life. But rather one should not be punished for living a good life. If you steal a cookie; you get punished. if you don't steal the cookie; you get no cookie. |
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| Geofari | Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:53 am Post #54 |
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yeah like all the christians out there |
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| Xtreme | Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:08 pm Post #55 |
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God does not exist. I have my reasons and do not feel my need to share them for if I am wrong I do not want to bring everyone to hell with me. If you knew my reasons you would think he does not exist as well. |
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| TeaLaGe | Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:24 pm Post #56 |
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this jumped from god/satan/jesus to physics.. |
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| Etra | Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:28 pm Post #57 |
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Not only physics but all science is related to religion since most people believe in the "God of the gaps" view, whether they're aware of it or not. The view states that the more science is able to explain, the less there is a need for a "God" to explain "miracles." |
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| Garrett | Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:51 pm Post #58 |
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god has no beginning and no end |
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| Username | Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:02 am Post #59 |
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Deep. |
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| Tonic | Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:26 am Post #60 |
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Well, I think we've done this before so I'll keep this concise. The choice(which I'm deliberately simplifying) is to place faith in religion or science. Faith in science means faith in the scientific method, which is a standardized, systematic way of evaluating our physical world. Gathering data and testing hypothesis under carefully controlled circumstances, basing theories on factual evidence, using a regimented method that has been developed and constantly improved for hundreds of years. Faith in religion mean placing your faith in an omnipresent, detached, and apparently unconcerned entity in which we are morally obligated to place our everlasting and unwavering trust in, for fear of being punished in an alledged afterlife. No factual evidence of this entity exists, and the only semblance of proof we are given is almost completely anecdotal in nature, along with random and unsubstantiated accounts of "miracles" which are almost always explainable by modern science. The choice is yours. |
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