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| Tweet Topic Started: Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:21 pm (248 Views) | |
| GhosTy | Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:21 pm Post #1 |
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This is part of an essay I'm going to write later... The topic of the essay is "Why did the Germans go along with the Nazi's" or something along those lines in WW2 I'm just curious what you guys think about this topic. I would rather put it in this section than homework since here I have a better chance at A) Getting replies B) Getting good replies |
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| FaZ- | Tue Jan 13, 2009 10:48 pm Post #2 |
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Just make an analogy with how effective advertising is. It's all propaganda. And definitely quote Hitler: "How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it." That's really all it was. The Germans populace is just like any other, dumb and sheep. Think of how widespread American hate is for Middle Eastern people right now, and the government barely even tries to make that connection. (Gah fuck you're Canadian... close enough.) That'd be an interesting essay to write, but the teacher is going to get 25 papers that have the exact same content if she gave this prompt to everyone. It's more of a research paper than anything else. The Nuremberg Laws and Crystalnacht are a good place to start. |
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| TeaLaGe | Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:06 pm Post #3 |
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I specialize in this so here is my answer: A. The German people felt that the burden of the war was too much on them. The allied nations blamed them for starting the war when they didn't. They felt that they were used as a scapegoat for what had happened. GUILT B. The War Reparation Bill (or whatever it was called) was astounding. Germany had no way to pay off for the damages that was caused to the other countries. The Reich mark (German cash) was completely worthless as it could not be used to pay off since it degraded over time. (The money costed more to print then to pay off) Reparation C. As result of the bill, many people could no longer live as they did before, everyone was poor. There wasn't enough food for the country and there was no money coming in. D. Hitler came at the right time giving hope to people that Germany will one day restored to it's glory. The Nazi simply convinced the German people that they can come back from what has happened... E. Using the Jews as a scapegoat for WW1, the German population no longer believe that it was their fault that they lost the war, but the Jews lost it for them. Well idk, that's what i think of why the Germans supported the Nazis... |
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| Arbiter | Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:41 pm Post #4 |
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Ya... was gonna say what faz said. The Nuremberg trials raised that question, "why did you go along with it knowing how wrong it was?" and a lot of people just said following orders... or something close to that. So if you could get info from there, a couple quotes you know.. that works. Tealage said some good things... after WWI, Germany got raped with all the reperation they were in charge of completing. Lol, Woodrow Wilson said there should be "Peace without Victory" his support behind that was that if there was a definite winner and loser... the loser would have to pay, which Germany did indeed pay, and then Wilson also believed, or its my understanding that he believed that if there was a "loser" that the consequences they would have to pay would lead to a desire for revenge... leading to another war, which it happened. Again, like Tealage said, Hitler played into that at the perfect time. As much as he was a terrible man.. and what he did can never truly be forgiven, give the man credit he was a damn smart cookie |
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| TeaLaGe | Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:04 am Post #5 |
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Fear was one of the main reason why people didn't wanna go against the Nazi. If you guys watched that movie with Tom Cruise, you would see that if Hitler was killed there, the war would of ended earlier but Hitler never died. I Enjoy WW2 so much that i read it on wikipedia when I'm not doing anything important. All theater of WW2 are exciting to me. I find that the Eastern front the most interesting because it involved so many people in it and it was more dramatic then the western front except for D-Day. I have to say that Hitler has left an impression on me, the way he used Germany, as well as the way he was able influence the population and use the resources to conquer lover half a dozen countries. Thinking like him has definitely given me more confidence in myself. (Except the racism stuff) Edited by TeaLaGe, Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:06 am.
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| Loki | Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:16 am Post #6 |
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Nice post TeaLaGe. Both you and Faz had good points. Germany was the first country to come out of the depresson, thanks to HItler. Germany was pretty fucked up after WWI, Hitler was a pretty smart man. |
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| GhosTy | Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:58 am Post #7 |
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Thanks guys xD although I don't know what the Nuremberg Laws are or the Crystalnacht w/e o_O |
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| Arbiter | Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:30 am Post #8 |
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Nuremberg Laws or the Nuremberg Trials were basically War Crime trials that many high ranking officers, British officials and military personnel were put through, like i said b4, asking why they did it and putting them on trial for the inhumane things they did. Wasn't a very nice time... to say the least, lol. |
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| DeMaGoG | Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:03 am Post #9 |
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Didn't read everything, but don't forget, Hitler was a demagog :-D (or demagouge if you prefer the alternate spelling). Hitler was also supposed to have been a brilliant tactician, he just made a big mistake when he tried to take Russia. |
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| Tonic | Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:07 am Post #10 |
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Cause I fucked their zombies up in Wolfenstein. |
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| FaZ- | Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:25 pm Post #11 |
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Nuremberg Laws are very different from the trials. These were laws created in order to disallow Jews of basic freedoms, like marrying anyone who was considered to have German blood, working for any civil service, etc. |
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| TeaLaGe | Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:16 pm Post #12 |
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lol Arbiter, nice try. You need to learn more history. Here's the excerpt from Wikiiipedism
So ya, them bitches nazi kept adding more laws every month, effectively raping the jews. |
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| Loki | Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:19 pm Post #13 |
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Lmfao. Wish history professors put it down like you. It would be more interesting. |
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| TeaLaGe | Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:19 pm Post #14 |
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Krystallnacht was the night that Hitler secretly ordered the SA or was it the SS to destroy the Jewish buildings across Germany. Known for the amount of glass destroyed during the event... What ironic was, the Jewish was blamed for destroying their own business and homes... lmfao.. You gotta admit.. Hitler was one crack duck. Well, i try to make history exciting by adding humor to it, never gotten bored of it because i always laugh when something funny happens like when Hitler 6th army got owned so bad by the Soviets lol, shit was hilarious. Edited by TeaLaGe, Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:23 pm.
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| Arbiter | Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:53 pm Post #15 |
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didnt mean laws there... that was a typo... or rather a misunderstanding :P the nuremberg trials though i had right though.. if im not mistaken. Edited by Arbiter, Wed Jan 14, 2009 7:55 pm.
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| GhosTy | Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:52 pm Post #16 |
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If you guys really want I could post my half-assed 5AM essay lol |
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| MusT | Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:28 pm Post #17 |
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If you want a good insight on this, you may want to read some Ian Kershaw, hes got some really good books on this. Don't knowif you already written your essay! And yeah please post it, I studied this last year :) My input would be firstly, the Great Depression, for the beginning you can say that well the German people went with Hitler and the Nazi party because it seemed like the way out, they promised so much to the German people. Also, the rejection of the Treaty Of Versaille in 1919 (i think, was a while since i talked about this!), people hated the Treaty as it was very harsh towards Germany, the Nazi Party promised to get rid of it as they did (you can see from the way they re-militarised the rhineland in 1936(i think) and the invasion of Czech (1938), or the increase in military size. The Nazi party offered so many jobs, from 1933 when they came into power to around 1939, employment fell from around 6million to around 400,000, thats a reason why some of them were content and beared with the Nazis, especially for the early years. Now, there are different ways you can look at this: The people were terrorised/indoctrinated into the Nazi party by different methods or they went along with it because they thought it brought them prosperity. The answer (for me anyway) is a synthesis of the two, i mean i could write a whole essay about this but i dont know if i can be bothered...if you want i could probably find one on my computer about this.. Edited by MusT, Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:37 pm.
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| GhosTy | Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:30 pm Post #18 |
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Yeah sure, I'll post it when I get home :p it's on my computer |
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| MusT | Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:37 pm Post #19 |
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i just editted btw lol. oh shit i realised u meant only in WW2! sorry!
Edited by MusT, Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:40 pm.
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| GhosTy | Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:31 am Post #20 |
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Well that's kind of when Hitler was around lol Alright here it is
I didn't really try too hard on this essay since he said it wasn't to follow proper essay format and such since it wasn't english class. I got a 5/6 on it because my 2nd paragraph sucked xD |
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