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| Arbiter | Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:21 am Post #1 |
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Tell me what you think. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piuoGb-Nhfw |
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| Geofari | Sun Mar 1, 2009 12:32 am Post #2 |
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Oh yes, because a mistake cannot possibly happen.. Too stupid. |
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| Princess | Sun Mar 1, 2009 8:52 am Post #3 |
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I think the point was that he dropped the chalk every time for twenty years, and that never happened until the Christian stood up. The odds of that happening are astronomic. Now, whether or not the story is made up, I don't know. But thats pretty remarkable, no matter what you believe. I do personally believe in God. But there is a chance this is just plain coincidence, regardless of belief. Like this video for instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMFFGFmn20k The Price is Right. The retail value of the item was $23,743. The person guessed $23,743. The combination of numbers it could've been are almost literally endless, yet he guessed the right number by coincidence. So you can take from it what you want. Coincidences equally great in non-religious contexts do happen, but of course this story special for supernatural reasons. |
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| Arbiter | Sun Mar 1, 2009 1:43 pm Post #4 |
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I think you missed the point of the video... it's not so much about the fact of chalk dropping or its not breaking. Hell, for all i know its completely made up. It's the stuff that follows. I really think you needa mature a little bit. Make some quality in your posts? Back up your reply instead of just bull shitting it all? |
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| Stun | Sun Mar 1, 2009 2:35 pm Post #5 |
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Did anyone watch the Re: This should keep you all thinking?? One of the most ignorant videos I've ever seen trying to prove/defend a point... |
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| Loaded | Sun Mar 1, 2009 2:37 pm Post #6 |
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That could have easily been made up, like the bible. Just my two cents. Edited by Loaded, Sun Mar 1, 2009 2:38 pm.
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| Arbiter | Sun Mar 1, 2009 3:01 pm Post #7 |
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ya, i watched it stun. Although to be honest, i had trouble reading the text lol. and loaded, even if it was made up, when it talks about "isn't it funny that...etc" well, its sad how true it is... |
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| FaZ- | Sun Mar 1, 2009 3:56 pm Post #8 |
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My favorite part was "Nothing they said could ever shatter his faith... he hoped." That's essentially the definition of closed-mindedness. Toddlers stick their fingers in their ears and yell when people say things they don't want to hear, too. Those arguing about the validity of the video are pretty foolish. Do you actually think that a public, state-funded institution would require a course for a certain discipline essentially promoting Atheism? If you do, find me his "Rate my Professors" page. If you think that in 20 years no die-hard Christians would have entered his class and had the courage to stand up to the professor... lol. Just like the Bible, the story is meant to convey a message and a moral. It being true or untrue is irrelevant. Edited by FaZ-, Sun Mar 1, 2009 4:01 pm.
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| Loaded | Sun Mar 1, 2009 4:17 pm Post #9 |
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I love you Faz, agree 100%, as usual. The video is disgustingly illogical, no prof could actually do that, unless the class was something along the lines of "Atheism 101". While I'm sure that video gives hopes and puts smiles on the face of Christians everywhere, it totally lacks validity, like the religion itself. |
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| Arbiter | Sun Mar 1, 2009 7:58 pm Post #10 |
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pretty sure faz, thats exactly what i was trying to say? Well in some regards. Not completely. But yes, it being untrue is irrelevant. As for loaded your comment about christianity lacking validity, don't feel like getting into a religious debate. Just out of curioisty though.. how much research/self learning have you done to come to that conclusion? |
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| DeMaGoG | Sun Mar 1, 2009 9:43 pm Post #11 |
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I agree that the story is just some fictional propaganda, and it's rather hypocritical of a person promoting Christianity to use a lie to promote his/her religion. It's people like that that give my religion a bad name :-/ |
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| Gam3dbz | Sun Mar 1, 2009 9:51 pm Post #12 |
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video is ridiculous. "isnt it funny how simple it is for people to trash god and then wonder why the worlds going to hell?" how many people "trash god" and wonder why the world is going to hell? "isnt it funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the bible says" the newspaper doesnt tell you what to do or what to believe. tells you facts right there and then with evidence to back it up. wheres the evidence with the bible? "isnt it funny how everyone wants to go to heaven provided they do not have to believe, think, say, or do anything the bible says?" atheists dont want to go to heaven. if they dont think, believe, say, or do anything the bible says. chances are they dont care about a heaven. "isnt it funny how someone can say "i believe in god" but still follow satan" lets say the story is true, 1 person in every 20 years stands up. thats how many people who say "i believe in god" actually go all the way with it. "isnt it funny how you can send a thousand jokes through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the lord, people think twice about sharing" god isnt entertaining. who would spread emails about god and preaching their religion? perhaps that 1 person who stood up after 20 years. thats why. "...the public discussion of jesus is suppressed in the school and workplace?" because retarded arguments come up that surmount to nothing in the end. "isnt it funny how i can be more worried about what other people think of me than what god thinks of me?" the statements at the end are so damn presumptuous. its like that person knows exactly what we want to do but are scared to do because of what people think of us. god isnt the person you face every day. the people around you are. whos to impress? the statements at the end of his fake ass story are utterly pathetic. yeah yeah the point of this is to raise hope and encourage people blah blah. ...but couldnt it have been done in a less moronic way? im sure ill get dissed by this considering that stupid video got 4.5 stars. Edited by Gam3dbz, Sun Mar 1, 2009 9:52 pm.
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| Arbiter | Sun Mar 1, 2009 10:55 pm Post #13 |
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Not about to start a debate. I understand where your coming from. And I know lotsa people don't believe in God. Fine. I appreciate your opinion though lolz. I thinkthe one thing you have to realize though, is to come respect peoples decisions ;/ thats all i got ;o |
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| Gam3dbz | Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:22 pm Post #14 |
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decisions to make videos or decisions to be religious? if you are talking about the ladder, then i have already said my share about that. i dont care if people are religious and whether or not they preach it. just dont do it in an idiotic way. thats all. |
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| Arbiter | Sun Mar 1, 2009 11:35 pm Post #15 |
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Was talking about the ladder. And sure I agree with you. Some people debate with soul purpose of arguing/causing trouble. And some just believe it and talk about it, not getting into huge arguments or anything. But there's also tons of anti-religion people out there that just shove all of religion down other people's throats. |
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| Geofari | Mon Mar 2, 2009 6:02 am Post #16 |
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Sigh.. stupid arbiter.. did you tell me to grow up. It was late and I did not feel like putting that much input into it. ANYWAY I think the ending statements overgeneralize the population. Not all of us are satan worshipping heathens. Furthermore, the statements have a pretty condescending tone, as if to call us out for our mistakes and misguidedness when, chances are, the creator of the clip is a huge sinner him/herself. It is so insanely hypocritical how these 'devout Christians' can judge others when they themselves have faults. It's as if the phrase 'do not judge less ye be judged' holds no meaning for them even though it's in the B-I-B-L-E. Aside from that, the story told is obviously made up. What stopped the professor from just picking it up and dropping it again? If he ran out of the room then he must not be scared of God, but from sheer humiliation. I understand that the theme also had to do with standing up for your beliefs, which is the only one that I will accept as valid. It's always a recurring theme though and belongs in a book. Lastly, the text came too slowly which really pissed me off. |
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| Arbiter | Mon Mar 2, 2009 9:27 am Post #17 |
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lol, i'll agree with the fact that the text came slowly. And sure, it may overgeneralize the population. I don't really think it's necessarily supposed to represent everyone. The video is titled "this should make you think" or something. Maybe it's not real, meh? Makes you think, got a discussion going here? And I think the idea about standing up for your beliefs was quite major throughout this. As for being a sinner, course we are. Everyone is. And I don't see the creator so much as judging people, as pointing out facts, but maybe I'm blind, lol |
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| Geofari | Mon Mar 2, 2009 8:47 pm Post #18 |
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The reason why I said that the creator of this is judging us is because of the tone that the statements imply, atleast to my interpretation. I might be wrong but that is how I see it. I do hold a personal bias against these things (not Christianity). It's the process by which they (the faithful) point out little bits and pieces of the faults of conventional reason. The clip, regardless if it were true or not, can be used time and time again to reinforce faith. Know what I mean? I don't mind so much that their strongest argument against the evolution of man is the lack of fossil history. What I do mind is the little things like the clip. To me, it's like arguing with an eight year old - to them, their logic is the only correct one. |
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| Arbiter | Mon Mar 2, 2009 9:06 pm Post #19 |
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fair enough. And I agree, lol. and it definatelycan be used to reinforce faith. I mean thats what religion, of any kind is based around |
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