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The End of the World: 2012
Topic Started: Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:21 pm (1,728 Views)
FaZ-
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How the hell is it politics for Gore to claim that global warming is happening? You're really just fucking stupid.

I'd love to know the name of this "scientific" book. Are you writing it, and it's being peer reviewed by the friend that's reading it now?


Whether or not we're causing it, global warming is happening.
Edited by FaZ-, Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:36 pm.
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Tonic
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Actually, FaZ-, I think the contention is whether we are to blame or not.
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DeMaGoG
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Oh I'm not gonna give you the name of the book for now, that will ruin my fun. In due time.

And I'm not saying global warming ISN'T happening. I'm saying it's a theory, and in all honesty, there is evidence supporting both sides.
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Tonic
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Exile, global warming is a theory. It's not real because it hasn't been proven yet.


Maybe you'd like to rephrase that.
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DeMaGoG
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Ya, maybe I misphrased. What I'm saying is there isn't undeniable proof that it is occurring, and/because there is evidence showing the opposite, that we are heading towards another ice age.
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TeaLaGe
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even reference from the book, u still need to reference those references to see if their theory is true.. you can't just say "according to this dude, blahaha" you need to do research on those people who conducted experiments and whatnot...
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DeMaGoG
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Journals are peer reviewed Tealage. They don't get published until experts in the field review them.
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FaZ-
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Tonic
Sun Jul 12, 2009 4:39 pm
Actually, FaZ-, I think the contention is whether we are to blame or not.
That is a worthless contention. Does placing the blame accurately somehow alleviate the problem?
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Tonic
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Umm, yes? If we discover that mankind is to blame, then we can or should take steps to "alleviate the problem". If it's a natural phenomenon, then there's not much we can do about it, now is there?
Edited by Tonic, Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:02 pm.
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TeaLaGe
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DeMaGoG
Sun Jul 12, 2009 5:24 pm
Journals are peer reviewed Tealage. They don't get published until experts in the field review them.
experts in the field? only experts in the field are those people who "support" the theory.

It's like you making something up, and getting your friends to vouch for you. Books aren't alway the most reliable source of information, you have to read the author biography and understand where and who he is.

Infact, what is the name of the book and the author?
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FaZ-
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Tonic
Sun Jul 12, 2009 6:02 pm
If it's a natural phenomenon, then there's not much we can do about it, now is there?
Says who? The whole concept of terraforming belies that thought. Technology may not exist currently, but that doesn't mean that it can't.
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DeMaGoG
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I already said, you'll have to wait for that. And experts in the field of climatology are climatologists. All they do is look at if the conclusions made are accurate based on the data. There's no biase.
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TeaLaGe
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seem like alot of bullshit, not knowing the book name or author, you could try asking your friend for that instead of just delaying us the bs when we can just google the damn book
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DeMaGoG
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Would you rather go out and buy the book and read it or have me give you the information from it?
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TeaLaGe
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DeMaGoG
Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:00 pm
Would you rather go out and buy the book and read it or have me give you the information from it?
i would rather you give me the fucking name of the book or atleast the author so i can google the fuck out of it, don't make it so complicated when it's simple.

Why would i buy a book when i can just hijack it of google.com
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DeMaGoG
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Well if it means so much to you Tealage, it's Michael Crichton's book State of Fear. Although I doubt you'll get much of the data from it off google.
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TeaLaGe
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Michael Crichton.. are you serious...

this is not a journal, this a fucking novel...What do you take me for? an idiot? man get out of here. Look at the Review.

"The book contains many graphs and footnotes, two appendices, and a twenty page bibliography, all either contributing to the book's scientific authority, or giving the impression that such authority exists, depending upon one's perspective."

Book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Fear

Author:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Crichton


You cannot base your opinion base on a thriller-techno novel from a guy who wrote fucking jurassic parks


Edited by TeaLaGe, Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:23 pm.
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DeMaGoG
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Duh.

He uses information from journals. I wouldn't be using information from the novel, but from the journals he used.
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NighT
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2012, uh ye love how these topics go from to. Climate change is a fairly serious discussion why not make a separate thread for that. Now demagog refuses to give up the name of a book and tealage wants it, i guess the suspense is killing him and maybe turning dema on since he doesn't get turned on from sex jk jk dema any way
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FaZ-
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This novel received criticism from climate scientists, science journalists and environmental groups for inaccuracies and misleading information. Sixteen of 18 top U.S. climate scientists interviewed by Knight Ridder said the author was bending scientific data and distorting research. Several scientists whose research had been referenced in the novel stated that Crichton had distorted it in the novel. Peter Doran, leading author of the Nature paper, wrote in the New York Times stating that "... our results have been misused as “evidence” against global warming by Michael Crichton in his novel “State of Fear”


Michael Crichton writes Science Fiction, if you weren't aware.
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