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| Tweet Topic Started: Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:00 pm (447 Views) | |
| TeaLaGe | Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:00 pm Post #1 |
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Level 50
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**start 19:00** game time not replay time. goes down mid for a second, stops goes right, lures back and forth on right side, still does it till i flag him and he still goes after me. Has very tiny vision of partner,ridiculous. after killing me, runs off to the top right comes back down again. Doesn't reach half the map, not even attempting to flag. not to mention what comes after that from 3oD[optimus] Edited by TeaLaGe, Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:14 pm.
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| DeMuRe | Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:31 pm Post #2 |
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Level 25
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In my defense, I got vision in mid after I flagged and saw that KoHo (blue) was there. I believe Trapp was on the left side, so I moved to the right side of the cliff to be safe and in an advantageous position to be visioned by my partner. I skipped TeaLaGe (white) as he came up, so I backed off and NL'd from a distance. After TeaLaGe died, I knew that KoHo was either middle or right, and I predicted (correctly) that he went right, so I went to the right above the cliff in case he went directly up instead of tapering off to the left. I predicted him coming up, MC'd, and died. I don't see what I did as a sit. |
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| TeaLaGe | Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:36 pm Post #3 |
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Level 50
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your p was at TOP LEFT in CORNER. |
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| DeMuRe | Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:37 pm Post #4 |
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Level 25
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Yep, and he eventually swooped back around to mid, I believe. |
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| TeaLaGe | Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:45 pm Post #5 |
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Level 50
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yes because it's only fair when If i kill your partner you have to run back and kill me that's good logic optimus. |
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| BanG | Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:08 am Post #6 |
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Level 20
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Just saying http://s15.zetaboards.com/Sniper_League/topic/7205578/1/#new |
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| LockeD | Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:28 am Post #7 |
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Cry to me Newbs
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Honnestly i dont know why people play so slow now.. I mean it take 2 min to move up when it uses to take 20 sec back then.. For me thats sitting ..:S but that might be because i was never a fan o people waiting. |
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| XpLoiTeD | Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:14 am Post #8 |
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† Rawr †
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Sitting should just be in base vis. Or in 1 exact location for more than a minute. Being smart and taking a tactical advantage at the risk of moving a further distance is not a sit, its a strategy, and this game is nothing but strategy, from deciding to NL to QL or SHS, or SNL to which way up and down you walk. When people play smarter instead of "RUNNING AND GUNNING UP AND DOWN" like we did in war prior to the 1900's, there is a slower pace, less death, but just as much damage. |
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| DeMuRe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:24 am Post #9 |
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Level 25
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This. Honestly, after I saw blue in the middle, I should have swooped all the way around on the right side, back up the middle where I knew they both were only to have them flag and go left - meaning I have to charge the flagger AND his partner on the left or go back down the middle and meet them further down on the left for the exact same situation with the disadvantage considering the glitch(providing my partner died)? And if blue had stayed behind in the middle while white went to go flag, I either would have died to blue in the middle or on the left as he blinds me only to have white be so far away that I wouldn't be able to catch up before he flagged or I would have killed blue, wasting the time I had to catch up to white before he flagged? Are the rules "don't think, just lose"? Edited by DeMuRe, Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:27 am.
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| TeaLaGe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:50 am Post #10 |
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Level 50
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you had a mili second of vision of blue, you didn't even try to re-vis yourself against blue or me, you pull off to the side and lured till your partner came by. This was unnecessary sitting. After I died, red was right below you, you pulling off to the side guarantee more sitting. There was no chance that blue was ever gonna come to the right side cliff, you had vision the whole time. You just went off to the side to continue your sit and mced when when blue came there. // Even if blue manage to reach the cliff, you didn't even lure that area, you ran straight to there and went down
Coming from the guy who hangs out at that place for half the game vs skid. Luckily didn't get claimed for sitting. Edited by TeaLaGe, Sat Jun 16, 2012 1:55 am.
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| DeMuRe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:05 am Post #11 |
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Level 25
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Yeah, and that fraction of a second was enough to realize that he was there. Why would I lure there knowing that you could easily come from the left and vis or shoot me directly? I pulled off to the side because I figured it was safe there. That's called using your brain. Pulling off to the side meant I thought blue was going to be there, I already said that. I didn't have vision of the whole right side of the map the whole time. When I NL'd you, I went into BV. And who says you have to lure every single time? If I predict that he's on the right, then I head over there ready to QL. |
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| TeaLaGe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:18 am Post #12 |
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Level 50
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True you knew he was there, but you didn't know where he was coming from (where he was going to go). The point is, you were luring NOTHING there and still came after me. I don't care if you're a psychic and able to predict when blue is coming, the whole point is you lured NOTHING and had no vision of me prior to going to that spot. Your teammate was never near you, he was coming from the left side, never had vis of me till i moved into BV, you skipped me, lost vis and came after me. It would be fine if you saw me, but you never did till you stayed at the right side and lured EXPECTING blue to come out with no prior vision of him moving up and no vision from your partner. That is a sit. When you have no vision of either player and lure in the same spot until you have vis. How could you possibly know that blue would go right instead of mid, the only logical explanation is that you were sitting in that same place attempting to shoot whoever comes out by luring nothing but air. Even if blue came right you were still sitting your ass off by trying to cover the top mid from anyone coming up. You made no attempt to move right down, evident by the pulling back and forth toward top mid. I'll say it again, RED WAS NEVER near you opposite side of you, he never had vis until i was in your BV, you came after me NOT RED. Using red as a defence does not work when he's nowhere near you. Edited by TeaLaGe, Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:20 am.
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| TeaLaGe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:40 am Post #13 |
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Level 50
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replay time: 7:57 - Yellow moves down vis himself, sees blue for a mili second, pulls back up doesn't retry to vis, moves to right 8:09 - Red hugging the wall, NO vision of white 8:11: Yellow luring 2 times for no reason while red is nowhere near him, gets a vis of me coming up from left to go mid up, he "skips" 8:14: Red finally has a bit of vis of me, but then loses it STILL NOWHERE NEAR YELLOW. 8:17: White enters base, yellow pulls back and follows with nl, red comes in finally nowhere near yellow still. 8:24: Yellow kills white with NL, red directly below 8:27: Yellow runs off to side, not even attempting to lure, "psychic" walk to possible blue location "ready to ql" 8:31 red has vis of mid and right enough vis, yellow goes down right side for no reason still, blue nowhere to be seen 8:36: Red runs back to left fakes left, goes mid 8:40: Yellow dies to blue from MC 8:43 Red fakes mid goes right to kill blue 8:45 red goes mid, has mili vision of me, pulls back to base before I even get to right side 8:54: Yellow dies again, red goes up turns 8:56: 2 second later red shoot white. 9:01: Red goes mid again. --- The end --- Edited by TeaLaGe, Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:42 am.
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| DeMuRe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:40 am Post #14 |
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Level 25
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Well, if you're in the middle, you can only go up or to the right, unless you're going to circle back. Which do you think is more likely? I wasn't LURING, I was getting vision for myself AND by doing so, I caught sight of you moving from left to right and then back up. That's how I was able to skip you before you got into BV. I mention that red was on the left side because he could have easily went towards mid to vision me, which is what I was hoping he would do. I have the video - I was getting vision for myself in the middle for when blue came up, and I spotted you. Have you never anticipated a movement before? You act like what I was doing was aimless. I knew blue was in the middle, that he would most likely go up to flag or circle around behind me. My bets were on him moving up to flag especially considering I SAW YOU in the middle before you even moved into BV. How could I possibly know that blue would go right instead of mid? I can't. But I can PREDICT where he is going. Blue was KoHo, so my bets were on him moving around to the right instead of coming back up to where he knew 1 (possibly 2) enemies were. I already explained why I didn't move down on the right. Why would I do that when I know both of you are there, attempting to flag? I'm almost to the point of thinking that it is pointless explaining myself to you as you just don't seem to grasp 4 key points: 1. Red COULD HAVE moved towards the center of the map to vision me, a scenario I set myself up for. 2. I was not LURING, I was getting VISION, and I did it successfully despite skipping from the gained vision. 3. It's possible to move to an area of the map anticipating a moving sniper and preparing to QL said sniper. 4. It's possible to ANTICIPATE movement, especially in such a closed scenario. |
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| DeMuRe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:44 am Post #15 |
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Level 25
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You're contradicting yourself now. |
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| TeaLaGe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:51 am Post #16 |
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Level 50
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You were getting vision from luring in the same spot over and over, YOU HAD no prior vision of me, You didnt know where blue was going that's what i'm saying, You just happen to get lucky with vision that I came out there, you did that by sitting on the right side moving back and forth until someone came out. Moving to the right side was unnecessary add on to the sit. You didn't have prior vision of blue ANYWHERE other that small milisecond of vision. You're confusing "What could of happen" with "What happened" 1. Red is not part of you sitting, He is not there, you cannot say "it's not my fault red didn't vis me". 2. You were getting vision for a nonexistent player until white(me) stumbled from left. You were doing that back pulling back and forth TOWARD the mid, not right side, not below. 3. Fact is true, It's not the same when you have no idea where he is and didn't even try to angle/lure or anything, you just moved straight there without knowing where he was. If anything blue could of came middle and you would be sitting your ass off even more. Don't try explain to me "what could of happen" when it never happened. 4. It's not close at all, You has no prior vision of me, Red was nowhere near you, nowhere near me, nowhere near base, hell he was jacking off in the corner. He came when he saw me from your vision pulling back and forth twice for no reason. You saw blue with a milisecond of a vision, and suddenly you know exactly where he's going to go? Fuck off. because it takes effort to repeat to until you get the point. I'm already losing my mind trying to explain this to you since you don't understand the concept of sitting.
You didn't know where blue was so you decide to think "i know you're both there so I'll stay there and vis myself repeatedly until someone comes out while my partner is nowhere near me" Edited by TeaLaGe, Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:01 am.
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| TeaLaGe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:14 pm Post #17 |
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Level 50
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Trapp, you would know about sitting, you got DQed for in a tournament. Whether I bitch out at sniper or not is irrelevant, everyone does the same when they're losing.. The point here is that I was sat by demure not you, quit insisting that it was my fault we lost. We won the first game and it was a great game, now you/demure resort to sitting "outplaying" by running off to the sides every fucking time regardless of 1 dead or non dead. If everyone would play as slow as you, we might as well just stay in BV and come out when we have a mili second of vision.
Edited by TeaLaGe, Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:15 pm.
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| LaZ | Sat Jun 16, 2012 8:53 pm Post #18 |
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My name is Gokhan.
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Pathetic sit claim..he vises for about 5 seconds in anticipation of someone he's already seen. If that's a sit then we might as well DQ everyone and not bother with a league. Complain about slow play throughout a game all you want, but if they don't go over the top in any single play (assuming this example was the worst), you have no case. |
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| TeaLaGe | Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:31 pm Post #19 |
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Level 50
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anticipation of someone he seen with 1 milsecond of vision, he didn't even try to go revision himself, he walked away and lured until someone came out. Anyone who can't see that is clearly out of their mind. He did not attempt to revis himself on mid where he "thought" blue was coming, he walked away and lured till someone came out. That is a clear example of sitting. After killing me, there was no reason for him to run off to the sides, he was was walking aligned to the pillar, "ready to ql" what he had no vision of. Laz would defend because he partners demure all the time. But this one time demure was caught sitting. |
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| BanG | Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:55 am Post #20 |
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Level 20
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Wow someone else notices... |
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