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Counter claim
Topic Started: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:38 am (311 Views)
BanG
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http://s15.zetaboards.com/Sniper_League/topic/7206949/1/#new

The sit cancel out for this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrIwcX8Uqwc&feature=youtu.be
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skiD
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Who is the player? (White)
Use the right way to claim next time plz (Title and all)

Play will be reviewed that series will not be counted until this is settled
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BanG
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skiD
Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:55 am
Who is the player? (White)
Use the right way to claim next time plz (Title and all)

Play will be reviewed that series will not be counted until this is settled
Its the same player as in the game he posted.

White is tts

And i wasn't sure how to do a counter claim really sorry :/
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Trav
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This isn't a camp anyway... but it cannot be claimed (phil) because it is longer than 24 hrs after the match.
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BanG
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:20 pm
This isn't a camp anyway... but it cannot be claimed (phil) because it is longer than 24 hrs after the match.
This isn't a camp? For real??? Lol ur funny

Your camp altered the game just as much as my sit did... All I did was get a kill just as you did.
Edited by BanG, Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:52 pm.
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:59 pm
The supposed camp gave your the opportunity to save a flag, just as your sits did.
We are talking about how you 100% broke the rules by camping.. It doesn't matter why you did it or if it had a negative effect for your team...

You had so much time to run away from the rs but you chose to stay and get a free kill. = Camp no matter what you say..
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BanG
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:02 pm
If I stayed, I was protecting my partner with the flag from being within respawn range. Also, as I've already stated, you "100% broke the rules" against KoHo and yet it didn't matter.

By the way, it wasn't "a sit," there was about five clear sits, maybe even more. The disqualification was for the most obvious one, which had a considerable effect on the outcome of your win, unlike my alleged camp, which hasn't been "100%" proven.
How are you protecting your partner? your partner was out! By a lot if anything the sit i did was protecting my partner.. Rofl..

Edit:No there was only 1 clear sit in that game and thats why i was disqualified.. Stop making up bs.. Ur spewing shit out ur mouth that doesn't even make sense.
Edited by BanG, Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:08 pm.
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:12 pm
After looking at the play again, I realize that this claim was not a camp at all, as I was outside of the range of re-spawn when I locked and had to re-enter the range to shoot, therefore it was not camping the re-spawn, as that only applies to staying within the re-spawn's range. I could have easily been locked before I ever had the opportunity to shoot. Not only that, it didn't effect the outcome of the win in any way, as you have argued, as we simply traded a point... I killed one, then was killed myself. You have no basis, you are a sore loser.

How was I protecting my partner? Maybe you need to have your eyes examined.
you realize that player red didn't move. Infact he had no time to move before he was shot by you.. If you take 1 step out of range and come back in before the player even has time to react that is def a camp.

How can you defend a player that isn't even in range anymore tts? Please apply some logic to your posts when you're trying to prove a point.

And you were most def in range because you didnt even have to move 1 step up for a shot...
Edited by BanG, Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:21 pm.
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:24 pm
Re-read or read, if you haven't, or have someone read for you, if you can't, this topic if you fail to understand why even if it was a camp, which it wasn't, as I've carefully reasoned through for you, that it did not effect the outcome of the game: http://s15.zetaboards.com/Sniper_League/topic/7206287/1/
It clearly did have effect toward the outcome of the game because you did camp and gain a point and when i sat i gained a point for the same reason you camped "I was defending my partner".
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:42 pm
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Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:26 pm
It clearly did have effect toward the outcome of the game because you did camp and gain a point and when i sat i gained a point for the same reason you camped "I was defending my partner".
You prevented a 15-point flag by sitting. I traded a point by shooting then dying immediately after. Ignoring that is just dismissively retarded.
you clearly just said you were defending your p by camping me and defending a partner by camping with a 15 point flag on him is = to sitting and defending a flag.
Edited by BanG, Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:47 pm.
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Rigo
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SKID MAKE A RULING AND CLOSE THIS THREAT ALREADY! IT'S JUST GONNA GO BACK N FORTH!
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BanG
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Here you guys go I just asked taz what his opinion was on this clip and this is what he said.

Have in mind he is on your team tts and he didn't know this was against you.

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^That's a unbiased opinion
Edited by BanG, Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:17 pm.
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XpLoiTeD
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My rs didnt move cause I didnt think he was going to stay and shoot me. He gave me "time" I didnt move to lock cause I figured he was walking away, instead his teammate flagged and walked out of our base vision yet he was still within range of my rs to stance it.

Im pretty sure the rule says, dont respawn kill if the flag isnt there. I respawned, the flag wasn't there, he killed me. How can you be so slow that your flagger is gone, yet you're still within respawn range? Doesn't make sense.
Edited by XpLoiTeD, Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:12 pm.
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skiD
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Thread closed until decision
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skiD
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Ruled NO CAMP.
Main reasons of the ruling: White was not in range (albeit close), his position (poorly chosen), the unlucky respawn spot and yellow (who he saw respawn first) closing in on him gave him little to no options other than locking red.
From the rulebook: - Camping is defined as killing an opponents Respawn when the flag is not set. However, it is not camping if a player kills a respawn when the flag is not set and they are either: A ) retreating from an opponent chasing him OR B ) on their way to RE-GRAB the flag and the flag is SET when he reaches it.
Outcome of the game will not be changed.
BanG's claim count drops to 2.
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