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Topic Started: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:15 am (13,476 Views)
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Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:15 am
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UPDATED DEC 24, 2014: The entire list will be revealed sometime tomorrow on Christmas day.
UPDATED OCT 28, 2014: The rest of the entries will be done with a more visually appealing presentation. The remaining 15 should be completed in November (of this year).
UPDATED AUG 2, 2014: Slowly but surely this will be completed someday.
UPDATED AUG 19, 2013: This is a cumulative analysis after years of playing the game. Everything is subjective, so please don't take it personally if you don't agree with where I placed certain individuals. I have also included a rubric on how I grade individuals. Read the following below on how I will evaluate players:
Criteria: Possible maximum of 45 points
A. Legitimacy [1 ---> 10] One of the most controversial things about our game is whether or not ex-hackers should be allowed to be put into a list such as this. I think so. For those who have been caught hacking in the past, I have graded them more harshly than those with a clean record. Remember that everything is subjective.
LEGITIMACY SCORE SYSTEM *Scores 9 and 10 are based on purely gut feelings (bite me, I told you this would be subjective) **Some scores involve a total of 3 possible scenarios: Scenario 1: You have been caught hacking Scenario 2: You have not been caught hacking Scenario 3: You have not been caught hacking with no videos 10: I believe that you are 100% legit and I would bet my life on it. 9: You might or might not have videos, but I trust you almost as much as I can trust a person online, therefore I believe that you’re somewhere between 90-99.9% hack-free. 8: You have never been caught hacking and have more than a sufficient amount of videos recorded, therefore I believe that you’re somewhere between 80-89.9% hack-free. 7: You have never been caught hacking and have a several amount of videos recorded, therefore I believe that you’re somewhere between 70-79.9% hack-free. 6: Scenario 1: You have been caught hacking at some point at least once and have put in more than a sufficient amount of effort in trying to prove that you are now legitimate. Sadly, your reputation has been blemished and I do not intend in giving anyone who has been caught 100% hacking anything higher than this. Scenario 2: You have recorded an ample amount of games, and you might not have been caught hacking before, but this still isn’t enough proof in my mind to prove that you’re legit. 5: Scenario 1: You have been caught hacking at some point at least once and have put in a minimal amount of effort into showing that you are now trying to become a legitimate player. Scenario 2: You have recorded a few games, and you might not have been caught hacking before, but I’m not leaving out the possibility that you could be a potential hacker Scenario 3: You have not recorded a single game, but I highly doubt that you hack. Still... who knows? 4: Scenario 1: You have been caught hacking at some point at least once and have done nothing to prove your legitimacy. Scenario 2: You are someone with no videos recorded and I strongly suspect that you are hacking. 3: You have been caught multiple times and have not done anything to prove your legitimacy. 2: You have been associated with using and creating hacks, which make it hard for me to trust you. 1: You have not sniped legitimately a single day in your life.
B. Skills [1 ---> 10] Having knowledge is one thing, but being able to apply it during game time is another. While having knowledge is important in succeeding, being able to execute it effectively is much more vital. There are a lot of knowledgeable people that aren't great players. Then there are others that aren't knowledgeable in every facet of the game, but are still able to succeed due to their natural ability to play the game. Lastly, there are a rare group of individuals that are both knowledgeable and skilled at the same time. These folks are the ones that will score the highest in this category.
SKILLS SCORE SYSTEM 10: You are unstoppable. You are not to be fucked with and people tremble at your presence alone. Just hearing your name makes your opponents piss their pants nervously. Your level of consistency and unparalleled productivity makes you the envy of everyone. Simply put, you are one of the greatest players of all time. 9: You are amongst the elite of the community. Your level of talent can only be compared to by several and you win most of your games due to your ability to be a game changer. Your level of production and consistency is matched only by few in the history of the game. 8: You are considered a pro in your community. You are simply talented in your ability to execute and you win more games than you lose. Your level of consistency and production is relatively great, but you have more bad days than you’d like to have. 7: You got game. You are probably one of the better players in the game, but you are simply missing a level of consistency and production that puts you in the upper echelon group of players. 6: Perhaps you haven’t reached your potential yet. Maybe you are already at your peak and are destined to be stuck in mediocrity forever. You are decent, nothing to be proud of. 5: You are average at best, and have a limited bag of tricks. 4: You are not the most technically sound player, but you still win occasionally. 3: You are sluggish/slow/sloppy but somehow manage to get by. 2: Keep practicing because you need it. 1: You have trouble functioning a mouse and a keyboard simultaneously.
C. Knowledge [1 ---> 10] Certain people in this community have been able to dissect and understand the game better than others. These individuals understand the nuances of the game that other simple-minded folks would rather ignore than embrace. Many of the skeptics of snipers have claimed that this game requires no skill. For us more experienced players, this is not the case. Certain pioneers of various tactics such as glitching, shs, dlocks will be also ranked higher in this category.
KNOWLEDGE SCORE SYSTEM 10: You are an encyclopedia of sniper-related knowledge. From the most vital to the most mundane of things, you really know your stuff. You are a pioneer who has helped change the way we play snipers. You are an innovator who has created styles/tactics that are still widely used today. 9: You are a sniping genius when it comes to the know-how aspects of the game. What makes you different from the others is that you utilize everything to your advantage. You are a student of the game and have put those theories to the test. 8: You understand all of the important aspects of the game and you can execute a majority of the tactics/maneuvers in game. 7: Most snipers today will be put here since they know most of the fundamental aspects of the game, even though they can't execute everything well during game time. 6: You are most likely a player still trying to grasp everything there is to know. You are a sponge that is slowly trying to gain all that there is to know about the game. 5: There is still some hope for you, because although you only know some of the basic things about the game, there is more to learn if you actually open your eyes and ears to learn. 4: You are primitive and probably still stuck in the walks era of snipers. Get with the times... 3: Oh, so it's A-Lock to kill people. Now we're getting somewhere. 2: You have the memory span of a goldfish and are unable to remember things for very long. 1: You have never played a game of snipers before.
D. Teamwork [1 ---> 10] A partner that you have great chemistry with is usually more than enough to give your team the upper-hand against your opponents. There are certain individuals that will adapt to their partners style of play to compliment their games. For others, it's either their way or the highway. There are people that I've been able to play with over the years simply because their style works with mine or that they are team players. To be clear, this category has to do with an individuals ability to play with others. There are a lot of people that have shitty personalities, but can still play a team game.
TEAMWORK SCORE SYSTEM 10: You can partner with literally anyone and carry them to victory. You are not human. 9: You are an ideal partner because you are willing to sacrifice and take advantage of your partner’s strengths, no matter what their shortcomings are. Your ability to carry individuals to victory is extraordinarily high, but you are still human at the end of the day. 8: You are a great teammate to have since you are willing to play in a team-based concept. Your ability to adapt is better than most, but you might still have a hard time adjusting to certain players styles. 7: More times than not, you are a person most people would enjoy playing with because you at least try to play a team game effectively, but perhaps this only applies a select group of people. 6: You sometimes utilize your partners to your advantage, but not on a consistent enough basis. 5: You are very inconsistent with team play. 4: You always think that it’s a 1v2 matchup and have a hard time using your partners to your advantage. 3: The only way someone will get this low of a score in this category is if I did up to a TOP 200 list. 2: And if you a score this low… just log off and never return :)1: The word teamwork does not exist in your vocabulary and you probably BS your partners thinking that they are actually your enemy.
E. Personality[1 ---> 5] Why did I add a category where someone's likableness counts towards their value as a sniper player? For partners, I tend to play better with people that I get along with. People that are calm and collected put me at ease during game time. People that get nervous and angry easily can ruin the momentum/chemistry of the team. If I can't stand you, there is a higher chance of me playing under stress. I hate stress. I think you get the point here. If I were facing you, games are more fun to play in when both parties have nothing to lose. These are games where the outcome won't make or break relationships. This isn't to say that I don't like competition. I thrive it, but there are those that treat this game like it's larger than life. Yes, I enjoy this game a lot, but there is no reason to create unnecessary drama. At the end of the day, one of the reasons why the game is dying simply because of these cancerous personalities. One exception from what I just mentioned are those players that are sore losers. Even if you are easy to deal with outside of the game doesn't mean that you are just as pleasant to be around during games. These people will also be ranked low in this category.
PERSONALITY SCORE SYSTEM 5: You are the most lovable thing in the world. 4: Probably the most realistic target for those that have been great community members due to their positive spirits and rare instances in being a complete bitch. 3: We normally get along, but you might have rubbed me the wrong way at some point in time. 2: We might get along at times, but ultimately your moments of negativity ruin everything. Or maybe we never had a chance to get to know each other so it's hard to evaluate. 1: You are a prick, period.
Tie Breaking Process: If there is a tie in overall rating, I will decide the higher ranked player based on this order: Legitimacy > Skills > Knowledge > Teamwork > Personality If players are tied in every single category, I will just choose the player I think is better skill-wise.
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AsSaSsiN
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:54 am
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So first of all i have never heard of magnet hack so what is that, and second of all there was no evidence at all other than a statement. I don't mean to be difficult, but in creating my own top snipers list I've always held weed to the standard of never been caught. I've only ever seen accusations, that's why I was looking for clarity.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:58 am
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- AsSaSsiN
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So first of all i have never heard of magnet hack so what is that, and second of all there was no evidence at all other than a statement. I don't mean to be difficult, but in creating my own top snipers list I've always held weed to the standard of never been caught. I've only ever seen accusations, that's why I was looking for clarity. Magnet is like Rtoh Apocalypse Annihilation. And its just "he did this" word of mouth. No replay no ss nothing. So idk. Just found the link i was talking about.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:43 am
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- Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:21 am
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Lol... prove its not is brother? :P
I know you're just joshing (pun intended - gg), but the burden of proof would be on spec now considering his account did get banned. oh well. and prime late was really good. he had one of the best dlocks at the time. Nah i remember his dlocks just fine, it was 1 of the best. But he needed mh to even set it up. He would pre dlock ahead of time when u were coming down.... which is a pulse sorta but its cheating. gives u faster reaction + range.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:32 am
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Well If I go back and look at stats from old leagues, Late is present and has great stats, you're not.
And Mav put electric this high because he's in his clan.. favoritism duh.. lmao jk
I agree with hugo (Sorry spec) Late was definitely amongst the top snipers. Again when you started being "Noticed" (this is in no way an insult) late was kind of fading away. Play him in his prime he was a beast. late is definitely better than you specialist...and tealx was good sniper also...and idk who electic is...but if hes electric from clan dwo he use to hack for sure
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:08 am
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Well If I go back and look at stats from old leagues, Late is present and has great stats, you're not.
And Mav put electric this high because he's in his clan.. favoritism duh.. lmao jk
I agree with hugo (Sorry spec) Late was definitely amongst the top snipers. Again when you started being "Noticed" (this is in no way an insult) late was kind of fading away. Play him in his prime he was a beast.
late is definitely better than you specialist...and tealx was good sniper also...and idk who electic is...but if hes electric from clan dwo he use to hack for sure Electric is not Electric[DeMoN]. Electric (is a name i gave to) Torch. Idk any other akas.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:39 am
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- Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:54 am
So first of all i have never heard of magnet hack so what is that, and second of all there was no evidence at all other than a statement. I don't mean to be difficult, but in creating my own top snipers list I've always held weed to the standard of never been caught. I've only ever seen accusations, that's why I was looking for clarity. speaking of, where did ur list go?
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:27 am
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Cry to me Newbs
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Weedman proof was on the other forum i believe.
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AsSaSsiN
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:53 am
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@ Spec: Late started recording and posting every game he played after he was caught. There were tons of videos, and he still had an insane dlock.
@ Rigo: It was taken down
@ Lock: I used other forums as well and never remembered anything like that.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:57 pm
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Late was good. Better then specialist. He was my rival since clan lost
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:38 pm
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Weed man is listed as being caught by Warden on sD)Weed. If that is accurate, there isn't more clear cut proof than having a LOSS after a snipers game. Furthermore, as good as Cody was, he was one of those that seemed to disappear right after a patch. Just my personal two cents ... Leo_Extreme was more devastating with Cribz, in my opinion. Although I have has great matches versus both duos
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:54 pm
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Btw, dont take anyone "top list of players" seriously because like everyone else, mav is biased. To say that his list is more important then anyone else opinion, then your only believing one person opinion out of all. Remember this list is based on how maverick does with that partner he is ranking. It does not necessary determine who is greater then who. If anything his #1 p would be legendary and #2 would be dicksucker tts.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:49 pm
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Well If I go back and look at stats from old leagues, Late is present and has great stats, you're not.
And Mav put electric this high because he's in his clan.. favoritism duh.. lmao jk
I agree with hugo (Sorry spec) Late was definitely amongst the top snipers. Again when you started being "Noticed" (this is in no way an insult) late was kind of fading away. Play him in his prime he was a beast.
late is definitely better than you specialist...and tealx was good sniper also...and idk who electic is...but if hes electric from clan dwo he use to hack for sure
Electric is not Electric[DeMoN]. Electric (is a name i gave to) Torch. Idk any other akas. inferno another aka tko fire
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:32 pm
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inferno another aka tko fire
Yeah. EleCtRiC[DeMoN]'s aka was Camper - and he usually hacked. I'm not sure what his actual name was. ELeCtRiC's aka's were Electricity, TkO-sTaR. 4xF]StaR[, eX]ThundeR, vK[BLaZe], IvIS-InFerNo, InFerNo, Torch, CranKeD, RocK, and xX]sMooTh[Xx. This was Keith. Electric got kicked from tko for blowing hard.
^ fact.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:39 pm
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inferno another aka tko fire
Yeah. EleCtRiC[DeMoN]'s aka was Camper - and he usually hacked. I'm not sure what his actual name was. ELeCtRiC's aka's were Electricity, TkO-sTaR. 4xF]StaR[, eX]ThundeR, vK[BLaZe], IvIS-InFerNo, InFerNo, Torch, CranKeD, RocK, and xX]sMooTh[Xx. This was Keith.
Electric got kicked from tko for blowing hard. ^ fact. Thought u kicked him out by banning him, then he left the clan...and then It became official since he didn't talk to fresh or leader at the time.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:55 pm
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No he lost every match while in TkO even with the best TkO partners.
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inferno another aka tko fire
Yeah. EleCtRiC[DeMoN]'s aka was Camper - and he usually hacked. I'm not sure what his actual name was. ELeCtRiC's aka's were Electricity, TkO-sTaR. 4xF]StaR[, eX]ThundeR, vK[BLaZe], IvIS-InFerNo, InFerNo, Torch, CranKeD, RocK, and xX]sMooTh[Xx. This was Keith.
Electric got kicked from tko for blowing hard. ^ fact.
Thought u kicked him out by banning him, then he left the clan...and then It became official since he didn't talk to fresh or leader at the time. Regardless of who kicked him I stated the reason.
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Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:52 am
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inferno another aka tko fire
Yeah. EleCtRiC[DeMoN]'s aka was Camper - and he usually hacked. I'm not sure what his actual name was. ELeCtRiC's aka's were Electricity, TkO-sTaR. 4xF]StaR[, eX]ThundeR, vK[BLaZe], IvIS-InFerNo, InFerNo, Torch, CranKeD, RocK, and xX]sMooTh[Xx. This was Keith.
Electric got kicked from tko for blowing hard. ^ fact.
Thought u kicked him out by banning him, then he left the clan...and then It became official since he didn't talk to fresh or leader at the time.
Regardless of who kicked him I stated the reason. Who cares the reason he left. He does not even play anymore.
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Updates have stopped for a bit :(... We made it to 30 at least!
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Sun Sep 1, 2013 11:13 pm
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Yo mav you straight up fucked up the schedule lol... let's get this going school starts soon
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Sun Sep 1, 2013 11:47 pm
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we had a good run lol i don't think were getting passed 30 lol
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