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Topic Started: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:15 am (13,471 Views)
777averick
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UPDATED DEC 24, 2014:
The entire list will be revealed sometime tomorrow on Christmas day.

UPDATED OCT 28, 2014:
The rest of the entries will be done with a more visually appealing presentation. The remaining 15 should be completed in November (of this year).

UPDATED AUG 2, 2014:
Slowly but surely this will be completed someday.

UPDATED AUG 19, 2013:
This is a cumulative analysis after years of playing the game. Everything is subjective, so please don't take it personally if you don't agree with where I placed certain individuals. I have also included a rubric on how I grade individuals. Read the following below on how I will evaluate players:

Criteria: Possible maximum of 45 points

A. Legitimacy [1 ---> 10]
One of the most controversial things about our game is whether or not ex-hackers should be allowed to be put into a list such as this. I think so. For those who have been caught hacking in the past, I have graded them more harshly than those with a clean record. Remember that everything is subjective.

LEGITIMACY SCORE SYSTEM


B. Skills [1 ---> 10]
Having knowledge is one thing, but being able to apply it during game time is another. While having knowledge is important in succeeding, being able to execute it effectively is much more vital. There are a lot of knowledgeable people that aren't great players. Then there are others that aren't knowledgeable in every facet of the game, but are still able to succeed due to their natural ability to play the game. Lastly, there are a rare group of individuals that are both knowledgeable and skilled at the same time. These folks are the ones that will score the highest in this category.

SKILLS SCORE SYSTEM


C. Knowledge [1 ---> 10]
Certain people in this community have been able to dissect and understand the game better than others. These individuals understand the nuances of the game that other simple-minded folks would rather ignore than embrace. Many of the skeptics of snipers have claimed that this game requires no skill. For us more experienced players, this is not the case. Certain pioneers of various tactics such as glitching, shs, dlocks will be also ranked higher in this category.

KNOWLEDGE SCORE SYSTEM


D. Teamwork [1 ---> 10]
A partner that you have great chemistry with is usually more than enough to give your team the upper-hand against your opponents. There are certain individuals that will adapt to their partners style of play to compliment their games. For others, it's either their way or the highway. There are people that I've been able to play with over the years simply because their style works with mine or that they are team players. To be clear, this category has to do with an individuals ability to play with others. There are a lot of people that have shitty personalities, but can still play a team game.

TEAMWORK SCORE SYSTEM


E. Personality[1 ---> 5]
Why did I add a category where someone's likableness counts towards their value as a sniper player? For partners, I tend to play better with people that I get along with. People that are calm and collected put me at ease during game time. People that get nervous and angry easily can ruin the momentum/chemistry of the team. If I can't stand you, there is a higher chance of me playing under stress. I hate stress. I think you get the point here. If I were facing you, games are more fun to play in when both parties have nothing to lose. These are games where the outcome won't make or break relationships. This isn't to say that I don't like competition. I thrive it, but there are those that treat this game like it's larger than life. Yes, I enjoy this game a lot, but there is no reason to create unnecessary drama. At the end of the day, one of the reasons why the game is dying simply because of these cancerous personalities. One exception from what I just mentioned are those players that are sore losers. Even if you are easy to deal with outside of the game doesn't mean that you are just as pleasant to be around during games. These people will also be ranked low in this category.

PERSONALITY SCORE SYSTEM


Tie Breaking Process:
If there is a tie in overall rating, I will decide the higher ranked player based on this order: Legitimacy > Skills > Knowledge > Teamwork > Personality
If players are tied in every single category, I will just choose the player I think is better skill-wise.
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SpeciaLisT
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Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:01 am
I'd put my money on him becoming irritated with the whining. Certain people (RIGO) seem to forget he's doing this for the community, and doesn't owe us this list. Maybe we should all shadafakup and appreciate what he's done thus far, and wait patiently for the rest?
I would consider waiting a Year for a 100 name list pretty damn patient. He technically had 3+ days for each name. He's not even trying to figure it out...It would take 2 days tops if he really wanted to figure out the order. No matter what someone will have an opposing view...Might as well get it over with.
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Princess
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I'm a little appaled by your response but I'm not going to argue.


Because you know I'm right.

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I clowned on NwS quite a bit before I joined the clan myself, so yes I'm very familiar because I was tearing people up with Larocko, and I think frost in that clan.


I don't doubt it. You were a key member in Clan sO both in the game and behind the scenes. I seem to recall you leaving because you didn't get the respect you deserved for being a loyal member (you were in the clan around a year straight when you quit, were you not?) as well as a worthy sniper, so you moved on to greener pastures. This was about 2GoD, not you. SiCcNeSs was indeed in the clan. Me, LaRoCkO, SiCcNeSs, you, EliTe, and quite a few others put us comfortably ahead of Clan sO by the time it was all said and done, although sO outlasted us by quite a bit.

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I have carried top "30" snipers for the record too by the way all the time through my career, it's really not hard to do. I have also carried you at some point or another. I have also been carried many times, all the time. Everyone gets carried at some point or another, it's not some ungodly feat.


You're acting like I'm basing this from one bad performance. Trends and consistency matter, and anyone you have to consistently carry is crap. No one plays at 100% of their ability 100% of the time, but I played many games with 2GoD @West, and I was thoroughly unimpressed with his skill for as big of a name as he was. And that was 2004, I've seen him very rarely since then, so there's no way he's improved enough to be top 30 of all time, especially since Mav is looking at the time each person played as a whole. His abilities during Walks would have a good deal of influence, since he clearly played on Walks more than Locks.
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TeaLaGe
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Sun Sep 22, 2013 3:52 am
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I'm a little appaled by your response but I'm not going to argue.


Because you know I'm right.

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I clowned on NwS quite a bit before I joined the clan myself, so yes I'm very familiar because I was tearing people up with Larocko, and I think frost in that clan.


I don't doubt it. You were a key member in Clan sO both in the game and behind the scenes. I seem to recall you leaving because you didn't get the respect you deserved for being a loyal member (you were in the clan around a year straight when you quit, were you not?) as well as a worthy sniper, so you moved on to greener pastures. This was about 2GoD, not you. SiCcNeSs was indeed in the clan. Me, LaRoCkO, SiCcNeSs, you, EliTe, and quite a few others put us comfortably ahead of Clan sO by the time it was all said and done, although sO outlasted us by quite a bit.

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I have carried top "30" snipers for the record too by the way all the time through my career, it's really not hard to do. I have also carried you at some point or another. I have also been carried many times, all the time. Everyone gets carried at some point or another, it's not some ungodly feat.


You're acting like I'm basing this from one bad performance. Trends and consistency matter, and anyone you have to consistently carry is crap. No one plays at 100% of their ability 100% of the time, but I played many games with 2GoD @West, and I was thoroughly unimpressed with his skill for as big of a name as he was. And that was 2004, I've seen him very rarely since then, so there's no way he's improved enough to be top 30 of all time, especially since Mav is looking at the time each person played as a whole. His abilities during Walks would have a good deal of influence, since he clearly played on Walks more than Locks.
2God shouldn't even be near top 30. Maybe 5-6 years ago, but not anymore.
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LockeD
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Mav is actually going to beat Savor's "new map" as best joke of all time.
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Princess
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At least this has some visible progress, unlike that mythical map.
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LockeD
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Oh trust me savor had SS posted of the progress and with the "percentage of complete" and it got stuck at 95% or Something before he just totally stopped
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SaVoR
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It was practically done.. I just wanted to get the anti-mh to work and I couldn't find the right sprite so I didn't want to release a hackable map, whats wrong with that?
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LockeD
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Nothing.. You just kept us waiting and expecting for over a year.
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TeaLaGe
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a year? year*S*
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Princess
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LockeD
Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:15 pm
Nothing.. You just kept us waiting and expecting for over a year.
Oh, there's nothing *wrong* with it, I just find it funny all the hype that was built up around a map that was never released. It's become the Chinese Democracy of our game.
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Rigo
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history repeats itself
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LockeD
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Didnt expect that from mav tho
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Rigo
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he too nice he don't wanna upset ppl lol
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BanG
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Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:43 pm
he too nice he don't wanna upset ppl lol
Too late spec is already mad lol
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FeaR
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Seems like everyone is a little peeved about the list not being finished.. Even tho they could make a list and post it just like mav did ..
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777averick
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#29 and #28 up
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LockeD
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No way!
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777averick
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#27 also up now... things will start to get interesting from this point on.
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TeaLaGe
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ow..rigo
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TeaLaGe
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I disagree with tts comment. He's just angry that rigo didnt stop me from banning him. Using that as a way to insult him for being "scared".
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