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Topic Started: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:15 am (13,469 Views)
777averick
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UPDATED DEC 24, 2014:
The entire list will be revealed sometime tomorrow on Christmas day.

UPDATED OCT 28, 2014:
The rest of the entries will be done with a more visually appealing presentation. The remaining 15 should be completed in November (of this year).

UPDATED AUG 2, 2014:
Slowly but surely this will be completed someday.

UPDATED AUG 19, 2013:
This is a cumulative analysis after years of playing the game. Everything is subjective, so please don't take it personally if you don't agree with where I placed certain individuals. I have also included a rubric on how I grade individuals. Read the following below on how I will evaluate players:

Criteria: Possible maximum of 45 points

A. Legitimacy [1 ---> 10]
One of the most controversial things about our game is whether or not ex-hackers should be allowed to be put into a list such as this. I think so. For those who have been caught hacking in the past, I have graded them more harshly than those with a clean record. Remember that everything is subjective.

LEGITIMACY SCORE SYSTEM


B. Skills [1 ---> 10]
Having knowledge is one thing, but being able to apply it during game time is another. While having knowledge is important in succeeding, being able to execute it effectively is much more vital. There are a lot of knowledgeable people that aren't great players. Then there are others that aren't knowledgeable in every facet of the game, but are still able to succeed due to their natural ability to play the game. Lastly, there are a rare group of individuals that are both knowledgeable and skilled at the same time. These folks are the ones that will score the highest in this category.

SKILLS SCORE SYSTEM


C. Knowledge [1 ---> 10]
Certain people in this community have been able to dissect and understand the game better than others. These individuals understand the nuances of the game that other simple-minded folks would rather ignore than embrace. Many of the skeptics of snipers have claimed that this game requires no skill. For us more experienced players, this is not the case. Certain pioneers of various tactics such as glitching, shs, dlocks will be also ranked higher in this category.

KNOWLEDGE SCORE SYSTEM


D. Teamwork [1 ---> 10]
A partner that you have great chemistry with is usually more than enough to give your team the upper-hand against your opponents. There are certain individuals that will adapt to their partners style of play to compliment their games. For others, it's either their way or the highway. There are people that I've been able to play with over the years simply because their style works with mine or that they are team players. To be clear, this category has to do with an individuals ability to play with others. There are a lot of people that have shitty personalities, but can still play a team game.

TEAMWORK SCORE SYSTEM


E. Personality[1 ---> 5]
Why did I add a category where someone's likableness counts towards their value as a sniper player? For partners, I tend to play better with people that I get along with. People that are calm and collected put me at ease during game time. People that get nervous and angry easily can ruin the momentum/chemistry of the team. If I can't stand you, there is a higher chance of me playing under stress. I hate stress. I think you get the point here. If I were facing you, games are more fun to play in when both parties have nothing to lose. These are games where the outcome won't make or break relationships. This isn't to say that I don't like competition. I thrive it, but there are those that treat this game like it's larger than life. Yes, I enjoy this game a lot, but there is no reason to create unnecessary drama. At the end of the day, one of the reasons why the game is dying simply because of these cancerous personalities. One exception from what I just mentioned are those players that are sore losers. Even if you are easy to deal with outside of the game doesn't mean that you are just as pleasant to be around during games. These people will also be ranked low in this category.

PERSONALITY SCORE SYSTEM


Tie Breaking Process:
If there is a tie in overall rating, I will decide the higher ranked player based on this order: Legitimacy > Skills > Knowledge > Teamwork > Personality
If players are tied in every single category, I will just choose the player I think is better skill-wise.
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777averick
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I'm currently looking at replays for #23 to make sure things are as accurate as possible.

UPDATE: #23 is up!
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LockeD
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flipz was an amazing player and a great friend! He was very funny individual on f l. Never answering any other person
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BaSe
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Anybody think they can pick the final 22?
no particular order but these are some I think are missing
1. Cribz
2. Klit
3. mav
4. legendary
5.tealage
6. Locked
7. Skid
8. Taz
9. trapp
10. Assassin
11. lil2drunk
12. Lethal
13. spook
14. Angel
15. Great
16. deathchild
17. Icy
18. Lazer

Edited by BaSe, Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:43 pm.
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TeaLaGe
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Next is lazer.

Ill be somewhere in top 10... atleast with our history
Edited by TeaLaGe, Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:36 pm.
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BaSe
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:35 pm
Next is lazer.

Ill be somewhere in top 10... atleast with our history
and the other 20?
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TeaLaGe
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Thats as far as i got =) till he drops more hints
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BaSe
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Sigh... you're a horrible spy

Complete Failure!
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777averick
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#22 is up now.
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TeaLaGe
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Seee
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BaSe
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Find out more hints!
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777averick
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#21 up. I'm going to try to do at least 5 more today so stay tuned!
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777averick
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#20 is now up. I'm going to take a break for today, this is exhausting :X
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BanG
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:07 pm
Current Rundown
I can't believe you did this once again after i specifically pointed it out to you earlier in the topic..

people like you just wow...

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777averick
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It's ok BanG. As long as he spoiler tags it. My reason for not wanting this is because I want people to actually look at each entry and read the things I had to say about each individual. I have put a lot of time and work into this project; and I feel like by having a list that summarizes everything, my efforts would seem like a waste. If people want to enjoy the full experience, please click HERE to start and navigate the list the way it was intended to.
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Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:57 pm
It's ok BanG. As long as he spoiler tags it. My reason for not wanting this is because I want people to actually look at each entry and read the things I had to say about each individual. I have put a lot of time and work into this project; and I feel like by having a list that summarizes everything, my efforts would seem like a waste. If people want to enjoy the full experience, please click HERE to start and navigate the list the way it was intended to.
This is exactly what i explained earlier in the topic and he refused to understand that.
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TeaLaGe
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So while we are on the topic of prediction the next 19 players who will appear on Maverick List, let's do a recap:


XpLoiTeD - Already Made it

GreaT - This guy is just a copycat of Klit, the reason everyone accepted him is simply because he was in 3oD. Even when he sat, he was still very horrible at it. I'm thinking this guy will end up between 10-20 area on maverick list

WooD - Father of SHS and amongst other thing, he was a good player atleast, I never had the chance to witness his "rising" to the top as I was still on West. There is a spot for him on the list but not very high

DaMeiN - Our previous and current mapmaker, the man who also created the Sniper Assist when he was "Bored". He might not appear on this list as he is more of a creator rather then a player.

StoNe - Stone cold rock. Asian, chinky, hilarious, all in 1. Easily one of the best GHSer I have ever seen, I'm certain there isn't a spot here for him. He didn't have that much exposure when he started playing. He was at his height of his career at one point.

Snoopy - This guy was one of the few that took forever to embrace recording, but now he's streaming. I haven't had a chance to view his recordings but I have heard that he had a previous history of hacking. That's just on the down low however. Only 6 recordings in his entire career and he doesn't do it every game he plays.

EdGe - One of those "kids" who got great over night and suddenly got caught hacking, admitted and came clean. I never did trust this guy enough to play with him. Like 3oD, giving a chance for this sucker opened them up for another hacker that would soon to come.

2Drunk - 2Drunk! Back when he was good, he was REALLY good. That's all I can say about him. He got really sloppy and disappear later on

AsSaSsiN - Same with this dude, He went from very very talented and expected to be one of the best to "I can't take this anymore, I quit" gone. There is a spot for him in the top 20 however.

SpOoK - This person is one of those "suspicous" person, ( I had a screenshot of another chick talking to her about hacking ), Strangely every game that she didn't record; she was dodging every glitch/blind you could throw at her. Other then that, she was great, calm and had talent if she didn't hack her ass off.

StormS - This guy is old. Does he even play anymore? I don't even remember the last time he was GREAT.

LoKz - In the beginning, him and reveal were 1 pair of assholes. Constantly harassing me and trying to mess me up but then... Something happened between them and they broke up. Later on when I joined TkO, I had a chance to play with this person, amazingly we clicked so well together, it was ridiculous. Within the 6 months that we played, TtS has lost more games against us then anyone else. That was a sight to see. He's asian, I'm asian. We think alike, thus we work together REALLY well. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy appeared on maverick top 10. One of my finest partner I ever had.

TtS - Liar, deceiver, sitting, cheater, camping, hacker. All-in-one. it's a package deal when you play against him or with him. There has been a few topics of him hacking (2008/2009), having "FROG SA" and admitting to giving SA to Xploited himself then denying it later. There has also been a topic of him using OBLIVION; dropping after pause. He has been disqualified by no less then 4 tournament/leagues in his entire career for sitting/cheating. While It can be said that he is bi-polar. We also had the chance to witness him lashing out at his entire clan for losing for him (3oD) last year. Not to mention numerous time where he went completely berzerk and bitched at everyone for not sitting hard enough. Some consideration that people should know: This guy has smurfed on 100's of accounts. That enough warranty suspicion of hacks. In this case, It can be said he hacked on almost if not all of his accounts, which is the reason why he was never banned during the warden bans. While smurfing, he has the habit of lying about recording games because they never appear.

When it comes to lying, you will know. there has been so many topics regarding his behaviour. From making up imaginary wins "4-0 in dodge" to lying about hacking. There is another topic in the shit talk where he was outted for lying about winning games "tko vs xx" war. When it comes to games, he doesn't care about how he achieves the results, he only cares about the end result. If it takes 2-3 sits to win a game, it will happen. There is a spot for him since it's maverick list. He will show simply because of the time in XX he spent with maverick. Using his "tricks" warming up to the players to gain their sympathies. He's the only sniper player on battlenet who would spend real money to buy an "illie" username ( ])$@useast ). That certainly says a lot about him.

IcY - Already Listed

DeathChild - Overrated.

TaZ - Now this guy has so much "popularity" with the kids simply because he can "wow" you with things that aren't normally possible. Let's put this way, how many times have you guys skip/stalled for no reason whenever he was in this game? This doesn't normally happen when you play with any other players. But when he is in the game, weird stuff bound to happen. He did get caught hacking at once point as well so let's not forget about that. I'm certain he's not legitimate but this is maverick list, so he will appear in top 10 for sure.

LaZeR - Already listed

skiD - No talent. talk talk talk

LocK - one of mav besties ( quicklock bfs ) will make the top 10

Cribz - He was great no doubt, but without recordings to show that. We don't know for sure.

Legendary - should be #1 on maverick list. Because it's fun to play next to each other with each other vision.

KLiT - Overrated because he evolved from playing normally to sit moving aka "It's not sitting because im moving".
Edited by TeaLaGe, Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:21 pm.
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Lol tts i honestly feel good that you have suspicions on me. Makes me feel so good but legit since day 1 son. Record all day plus i was the first one to catch hackers and recording with task manager.
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Theo
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I think i should be number 81 lol
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LaZ
My name is Gokhan.
I'm not surprised to lose points in the legitimacy category, but it's a shame that it's due to VAL, of all things. The claims about how it helped you in snipers really were/are a bunch of lies.

Anyway, thanks for the kind words Mav. I have always enjoyed playing you over the years. Looking forward to the remainder of the list.
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SpeciaLisT
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Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:17 pm
I'm not surprised to lose points in the legitimacy category, but it's a shame that it's due to VAL, of all things. The claims about how it helped you in snipers really were/are a bunch of lies.

Anyway, thanks for the kind words Mav. I have always enjoyed playing you over the years. Looking forward to the remainder of the list.
yeah I already stated to everyone that I tested val and did my research on it. it does absolutely nothing to change sc latency which is the key to lat hack.. whoever spread it was lying and speculating which got lost in a game I like to call "telephone".
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