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Topic Started: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:15 am (13,485 Views)
777averick
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UPDATED DEC 24, 2014:
The entire list will be revealed sometime tomorrow on Christmas day.

UPDATED OCT 28, 2014:
The rest of the entries will be done with a more visually appealing presentation. The remaining 15 should be completed in November (of this year).

UPDATED AUG 2, 2014:
Slowly but surely this will be completed someday.

UPDATED AUG 19, 2013:
This is a cumulative analysis after years of playing the game. Everything is subjective, so please don't take it personally if you don't agree with where I placed certain individuals. I have also included a rubric on how I grade individuals. Read the following below on how I will evaluate players:

Criteria: Possible maximum of 45 points

A. Legitimacy [1 ---> 10]
One of the most controversial things about our game is whether or not ex-hackers should be allowed to be put into a list such as this. I think so. For those who have been caught hacking in the past, I have graded them more harshly than those with a clean record. Remember that everything is subjective.

LEGITIMACY SCORE SYSTEM


B. Skills [1 ---> 10]
Having knowledge is one thing, but being able to apply it during game time is another. While having knowledge is important in succeeding, being able to execute it effectively is much more vital. There are a lot of knowledgeable people that aren't great players. Then there are others that aren't knowledgeable in every facet of the game, but are still able to succeed due to their natural ability to play the game. Lastly, there are a rare group of individuals that are both knowledgeable and skilled at the same time. These folks are the ones that will score the highest in this category.

SKILLS SCORE SYSTEM


C. Knowledge [1 ---> 10]
Certain people in this community have been able to dissect and understand the game better than others. These individuals understand the nuances of the game that other simple-minded folks would rather ignore than embrace. Many of the skeptics of snipers have claimed that this game requires no skill. For us more experienced players, this is not the case. Certain pioneers of various tactics such as glitching, shs, dlocks will be also ranked higher in this category.

KNOWLEDGE SCORE SYSTEM


D. Teamwork [1 ---> 10]
A partner that you have great chemistry with is usually more than enough to give your team the upper-hand against your opponents. There are certain individuals that will adapt to their partners style of play to compliment their games. For others, it's either their way or the highway. There are people that I've been able to play with over the years simply because their style works with mine or that they are team players. To be clear, this category has to do with an individuals ability to play with others. There are a lot of people that have shitty personalities, but can still play a team game.

TEAMWORK SCORE SYSTEM


E. Personality[1 ---> 5]
Why did I add a category where someone's likableness counts towards their value as a sniper player? For partners, I tend to play better with people that I get along with. People that are calm and collected put me at ease during game time. People that get nervous and angry easily can ruin the momentum/chemistry of the team. If I can't stand you, there is a higher chance of me playing under stress. I hate stress. I think you get the point here. If I were facing you, games are more fun to play in when both parties have nothing to lose. These are games where the outcome won't make or break relationships. This isn't to say that I don't like competition. I thrive it, but there are those that treat this game like it's larger than life. Yes, I enjoy this game a lot, but there is no reason to create unnecessary drama. At the end of the day, one of the reasons why the game is dying simply because of these cancerous personalities. One exception from what I just mentioned are those players that are sore losers. Even if you are easy to deal with outside of the game doesn't mean that you are just as pleasant to be around during games. These people will also be ranked low in this category.

PERSONALITY SCORE SYSTEM


Tie Breaking Process:
If there is a tie in overall rating, I will decide the higher ranked player based on this order: Legitimacy > Skills > Knowledge > Teamwork > Personality
If players are tied in every single category, I will just choose the player I think is better skill-wise.
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777averick
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I've finally reached the halfway point of my list at #51. Thanks everyone for being patient, but it has been kind of hard to get this up in a timely fashion. Sometimes it's because I'm busy, and other times because I'm lazy, but I promise to get this done sometime by the end of 2013.
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Rigo
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nice that was a big jump
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Trav
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Dang, Mav, that's good stuff... I really enjoying seeing some of the names from the past of players who truly were ahead of their time:)
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skiD
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Should update a list too on the OP... maybe with the SPOILER tag idk
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Princess
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Well, Mav, you've inspired me to start my own. However, my list will only be 50 people. I'll list the 50 best Walks snipers of all time, and the 50 best Locks. I might have a couple of questions for you during the process, however. Is it cool if I PM you with any questions you may be able to help me with?
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Drinks
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YEAAA MOAR LISTS
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777averick
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Wed Feb 6, 2013 2:31 pm
Well, Mav, you've inspired me to start my own. However, my list will only be 50 people. I'll list the 50 best Walks snipers of all time, and the 50 best Locks. I might have a couple of questions for you during the process, however. Is it cool if I PM you with any questions you may be able to help me with?
Feel free to ask me anything and I'll help anyway I can.
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Thanks. I have my 50 best Walks snipers, now all I have to do is arrange them in order. I will post it when I get my 50 Locks snipers done as well.
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LockeD
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Good work mav! Keeping the hype up as usual.
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Loving the reads, keep it up bro.
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Skywalker
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Number 59, I am honored to have made the list. :)
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Rigo
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at 44 nice almost done!
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LockeD
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Quick question how do you rank legitness when you put a 7 on someone you write "records almost every game, never thought hacked and never caught person"? Just wondering lol

Btw surprised u put fizzly that low i remember when he was a real dominant snipers one of the best ive seen. The leech king :P mostly vK time
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Rigo
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fizzly sucked n sat... lol
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Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:20 am
fizzly sucked n sat... lol
Not to mention hacked .... A LOT on vK Tag
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Princess
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I'm not ZeRo[DeMoN], that's someone else, haha. I am also not a one trick pony. I'm the best at glitches and general blinds, probably the best angler besides Dj.TeC, and one of the best stancers. Angles and stancing are both "feel" shots, right to the bone, and Dj.TeC is one of the few people I've ever met who could consistently best me at it. Due to my sniper IQ, I'm also an extremely smart SHSer, definitely well above average on that. However, you're right on the money with me having no QL to speak of, I'm a wildly inaccurate clicker and always have been. Which also means I have an extremely weak d-lock and walkstance. Also, I absolutely suck at forcing HSes. I got a little more than one trick though :P

Essentially, I'm a poor man's KLiT.

I have been known to rage quit in my time, but that's generally not why I quit for months on end. I can't snipe for more than like a month at a time without getting bored and letting myself get sloppy.
Edited by Princess, Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:47 am.
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Rigo
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1.2 tricks then lol
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Princess
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Lol! 1.3*, noob.


It's funny how it's really the exact opposite. The most successful snipers really just have one trick: Lock fast, lock accurately, and the rest will come naturally. All of my sniper knowledge and all of the strategy and extra things I'm awesomely good at don't amount to shit in the end because I have a sloppy lock most of the time, and players like you and TaZ will just outmuscle me 9 times out of 10.


Oh, well. I'm not above admitting it. Ggs. Although I disagree with the individual stats and some of what Mav said, throughout all of my time plaing, I think #45 overall from '01-'13 is surprisingly accurate.
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Rigo
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cough lol
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