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| 777averick | Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:15 am Post #1 |
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UPDATED DEC 24, 2014: The entire list will be revealed sometime tomorrow on Christmas day. UPDATED OCT 28, 2014: The rest of the entries will be done with a more visually appealing presentation. The remaining 15 should be completed in November (of this year). UPDATED AUG 2, 2014: Slowly but surely this will be completed someday. UPDATED AUG 19, 2013: This is a cumulative analysis after years of playing the game. Everything is subjective, so please don't take it personally if you don't agree with where I placed certain individuals. I have also included a rubric on how I grade individuals. Read the following below on how I will evaluate players: Criteria: Possible maximum of 45 points A. Legitimacy [1 ---> 10] One of the most controversial things about our game is whether or not ex-hackers should be allowed to be put into a list such as this. I think so. For those who have been caught hacking in the past, I have graded them more harshly than those with a clean record. Remember that everything is subjective. LEGITIMACY SCORE SYSTEM B. Skills [1 ---> 10] Having knowledge is one thing, but being able to apply it during game time is another. While having knowledge is important in succeeding, being able to execute it effectively is much more vital. There are a lot of knowledgeable people that aren't great players. Then there are others that aren't knowledgeable in every facet of the game, but are still able to succeed due to their natural ability to play the game. Lastly, there are a rare group of individuals that are both knowledgeable and skilled at the same time. These folks are the ones that will score the highest in this category. SKILLS SCORE SYSTEM C. Knowledge [1 ---> 10] Certain people in this community have been able to dissect and understand the game better than others. These individuals understand the nuances of the game that other simple-minded folks would rather ignore than embrace. Many of the skeptics of snipers have claimed that this game requires no skill. For us more experienced players, this is not the case. Certain pioneers of various tactics such as glitching, shs, dlocks will be also ranked higher in this category. KNOWLEDGE SCORE SYSTEM D. Teamwork [1 ---> 10] A partner that you have great chemistry with is usually more than enough to give your team the upper-hand against your opponents. There are certain individuals that will adapt to their partners style of play to compliment their games. For others, it's either their way or the highway. There are people that I've been able to play with over the years simply because their style works with mine or that they are team players. To be clear, this category has to do with an individuals ability to play with others. There are a lot of people that have shitty personalities, but can still play a team game. TEAMWORK SCORE SYSTEM E. Personality[1 ---> 5] Why did I add a category where someone's likableness counts towards their value as a sniper player? For partners, I tend to play better with people that I get along with. People that are calm and collected put me at ease during game time. People that get nervous and angry easily can ruin the momentum/chemistry of the team. If I can't stand you, there is a higher chance of me playing under stress. I hate stress. I think you get the point here. If I were facing you, games are more fun to play in when both parties have nothing to lose. These are games where the outcome won't make or break relationships. This isn't to say that I don't like competition. I thrive it, but there are those that treat this game like it's larger than life. Yes, I enjoy this game a lot, but there is no reason to create unnecessary drama. At the end of the day, one of the reasons why the game is dying simply because of these cancerous personalities. One exception from what I just mentioned are those players that are sore losers. Even if you are easy to deal with outside of the game doesn't mean that you are just as pleasant to be around during games. These people will also be ranked low in this category. PERSONALITY SCORE SYSTEM Tie Breaking Process: If there is a tie in overall rating, I will decide the higher ranked player based on this order: Legitimacy > Skills > Knowledge > Teamwork > Personality If players are tied in every single category, I will just choose the player I think is better skill-wise. |
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| Druzil | Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:47 pm Post #141 |
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The reason nobody gave a shit is because you created the hack, and then had a messiah complex once you tried to make steps in anti-hacking. Everything you ever said here was taken with a grain of salt because you were so full of shit. The fact that you still defend yourself puts more weight behind this conviction. I would really like people who contributed to the death of this game to just sack up and say, "sorry guys, I fucked up.", rather than defend themselves to the bitter end. Edited by Druzil, Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:47 pm.
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| SpeciaLisT | Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:47 am Post #142 |
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Level 46
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sorry guys I fucked up |
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| SaVoR | Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:44 am Post #143 |
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Level 23
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If you actually read any of my posts regarding this subject, you would know that I did apologize and my attempt to remedy the situation by creating an anti for it failed due to lack of time. I'm only defending myself because its natural, as well as the fact that the description Maverick gave to me regarding how much time I spent on making hacks versus map making was ridiculous considering it took so little time to "re-create" a program that already existed, but in a different language. Where I failed was when I gave this program to TtS and sn00zer, and then actually talked about it. Would've had been better to be like 90%+ of the potential hackers in this community to have no solid proof on? Or to actually admit that I created a script and caused an issue with the community. I could have kept this to myself, raped the shit out of all of you, and be like the majority of the players on here where you have an inkling that they hack but have no real proof. It's all quite funny when you have people who praise you to get shit done, but then talk shit about you falling back on the fact I made a script so many damn years ago. When I was creating maps back then it was very well known that I created the SA in Autoit, yet it sounded like the majority of you didn't give a shit because you liked my maps, now its a problem? Either way, your thoughts on this are quite irrelevant considering my post on here was directed towards Maverick and not you. I've already tried defending myself to all of you and obviously all you fools can think about is how 'big of a hacker' I am, while in retrospect I hacked hardly at all compared to all of the known hackers that have been in existence in this game. There are quite a few on that list ranked higher than me who are well known hackers and hack often and openly, its just too bad that just because I created a script almost 10 years ago, people still hold that grudge, even after I take a ton of my energy to try to remedy - even give tips on how to spot and check for the script I created, it still doesn't matter. That's the issue I have with most of you and why this community is by far the worst I've seen in any game. |
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| SaVoR | Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:58 pm Post #144 |
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Level 23
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That is what I regret the most, giving the script out.. Whats done is done, but it ultimately lies in those who actually use it rather than the one who created it. Sure, blame me because I re-created something that already existed and still worked, but I didn't force anyone to use it. I'm not the one telling these people to use it, talk about self control. Even if I didn't create it in autoit, someone else would have. Great mentality in this community right? |
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| Rigo | Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:11 pm Post #145 |
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Level 22
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LIST, LIST LIST! lol |
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| skiD | Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:35 pm Post #146 |
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Level 9
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Uh what the actual fuck TtS you never gave me anything what the hell did this come from? Why even throw my name into this shit, I've never even seen this program or know what it looks like rofl. Such bullshit to even just put my name in there |
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| Druzil | Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:42 pm Post #147 |
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Level 7
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Just because you're addressing Mav and not anyone else doesn't take any merit from what I'm saying. What you have never seemed to understand, is you making a hack for this game trumps any good you might try to do. That's the way it is. I can't speak in certainty for everyone else, but from my experience you've always been a dark spot on this community since all of this came to light. If you offer to make a map that's better than the one we currently have, why would we say no? Not to mention, didn't you hype the map up like crazy and never release it? So there's that theory out the window. The fact that you refer to us as "all you fools" shows me how much of an immature brat you still are. As I iterated before, you created a hack, hacks are what fucked this game up. With that knowledge you still find it appropriate to have a holier than thou attitude because you "tried" to create a remedy for certain hacks. It's always the same story, and it's well past old. You were never a very good sniper, you created a hack, and you have one of the worst attitudes on this forum. In my opinion you should be thankful you're even mentioned on the list. With that said, I'm done arguing with you about how much of a piece of shit you are, clearly your mind isn't going to change and you'll always defend yourself blindly. Later gator. |
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| Rigo | Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:58 pm Post #148 |
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Level 22
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skid you been #caught |
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| skiD | Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:12 pm Post #149 |
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Level 9
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Nah this accusation is bullshit he has never sent me anything and I have no idea why he would just make that up. |
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| SaVoR | Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:53 pm Post #150 |
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Level 23
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Ok "gator" Hacks killed this game? Hardly. This game is over 10 years old, the mentality of always playing the same retarded map without adding new features bores the shit out of people and they move on. Hacks are in almost every multiplayer game, yet those games still thrive on, why is that? Maybe because its much more interesting than this I would assume? Probably. Hacks have been in starcraft since the game was released, is starcraft dead? No. Hacks do not kill games, communities kill games. You think I have an all 'holier than thou' attitude? You're sadly mistaken, child. I know I'm not pro at this game, I couldn't give a shit if I was the worst player either, that doesn't matter to me. I couldn't care less being the best map maker of this game, and I really don't give a shit what you think Druzil. You've been the most ridiculous person I've had to interact on this forum as well as playing the game years ago, we never got a long so I don't expect your attitude towards me to change at all. Its unfortunate you still think just because I created a 'hack' (re-iterating the fact that this hack already existed before I 'created' it) that I am all evil and destroyed this game, that shit I did was almost a decade ago and people still play this so I'm very certain that what I did had no impact on the decline of players. So you tell me Druzil, since you can sit there on the side lines and point fingers and judge, what the hell have you done for this game? Jack shit. What have I done? Plenty, both good and bad.. but you know what? At least I did something for this community which is much more than what anyone can say for you. You bitch and moan and complain about every other person on this forum because you feel that you are better than all of us, sad to say this but your e-chat skills only go so far. I have one of the worst attitudes on this forum? Seriously? I chime in with more insightful information than shit talk, get your facts straight. I may have been a hard head many years ago, but at least I respected all(most) of you enough to the point where I wouldn't be a bitch and say "Later gator" |
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| Rigo | Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:25 am Post #151 |
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Level 22
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nah the evidence is clear as day |
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| skiD | Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:55 am Post #152 |
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Level 9
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eat me rigo |
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| Druzil | Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:01 am Post #153 |
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Level 7
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What games have thrived alongside hacking? Thrill me. You're high if you don't think hacks are what killed this game. Hacks were so rampant that even legit players were questioned for making good plays every single game. You could argue this evidence falls under the community category, but anyone who is directly involved with half a brain will tell you it stemmed from hacking. With no intuitive and fool-proof way to counteract hacking, the game dies. We'll agree to disagree on that one champ. Ok, you didn't actually create the hack, I gave you too much credit! I've done plenty positive things for this community, I'm just not so insecure as to have to spout them incessantly everytime I post, hint hint. I don't disagree that you've done SOME good for this game, but what I take exception with is you acting like those nullify the negative stuff along with your shit attitude. You have never been a positive force in anyway for this game, so stop acting like you are. Simple enough? I'm not complaining, I'm straight up calling you a piece of shit and a liar. Either you're so full of shit you actually believe these delusions or you're just too pig-headed to man up and admit you contributed to fucking up this game. The fact is, I don't have a problem with most people in this community, you just happen to be one of them. The only insightful information I ever see you contribute, is you beating the dead horse with self-praise about how you created a map, (which you didn't release) and made steps in preventing people from using a hack you had previously written. And for someone who doesn't give a shit about what I think you certainly get all hot and bothered to defend my allegations. We both know what I'm saying holds weight, all I ask to bury the hatchet is that you stop side-stepping like a pussy and face the facts. I'm sorry if I ever communicated in some way that I respected you, because that was never the case. My bad for misleading you! |
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| SaVoR | Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:16 am Post #154 |
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Level 23
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Any FPS game that you can think of - Hacking in FPS is by far one of the easier games to obtain and use a hack in versus most games.. but if you need a few names - Counter-Strike, Battlefield, Call of Duty, GTA, All Points Bulletin, Unreal, Quake. Non-FPS? Starcraft, SupCom, Age of Empires, Command and Conqueror. All of these games are still plenty active, have a large community, and vast amounts of hacks compared to 'Snipers'. Is Snipers really the only thing you play? lol..
Hacks have been around for Snipers before it was ever created, please remember that this game is technically a custom game using the Starcraft engine, which of course has oodles of hacks - more importantly map hacking which affects Snipers the most. There was no way to tell at all back then who was hacking, yet this game thrived and grabbed hundreds of players, so I don't see your logic that 'hacks' directly killed this game, if so - this game was killed before it even started.
Good sarcasm, but you missed the point.
Not listing any right here proves that you have done nothing. Stating what you have done for something is not called insecurity, its called proving a point. When did I say that me trying to remedy the situation 'nullified' the negative things I did? I never said that anywhere. Me stating that I was wrong for doing what I did and trying to do what I can to make up for it would show that at some point I actually cared about what you all thought, and that I wanted to make up for the crap I did. I've never been a positive force in any way in this game? Aside from the fact that I made a few maps, I have helped the current mapmaker in his finds with other little features that have been added since I stopped making maps, as well as assisting trying to stop maphacks and the Autoit script I made. It would only make sense that someone who is trying to make progress in a game would be positive, aside from you - which your contributions are null.
Piece of shit and a liar? For what? Because I re-created a hack and attempted to fix it by trying to stop it? Where am I lying here? I am being wide open admitting to everything I have done, there is nothing to hide - if that makes me a piece of shit then so be it, I'd rather be honest than be a little bitch pretending I'm something that I'm not. You apparently were not around when I released 3 versions of maps, introducing pretty different features. Just because I didn't release a fourth - doesn't mean I wasn't working on it. I actually gave what I had completed to DaMieN so he could continue with the map making because I never had time to finish. I already admitted it was a bad idea to release what I made, but I won't admit that it contributed to killing this game, like I've said before (since you weren't around back then apparently) this game STILL thrived, even when my script was out in the open. You are just trying to point a finger in the wrong direction at the lack of activity in this game, can't you just admit that this game isn't that appealing for everyone else like you? Simplicity is nice, but it gets boring real quick when its repetitive, coupled along with the fact of people like you who happen to hold grudges for years and don't know how to get over shit. --- Oh I'm sorry Druzil for creating this script and killing your precious game! What will you ever do with your life!?
You apparently are bad at reading - I stated that you never respected me and at least I still attempted to respect you. In your eyes, when I write these small responses to your thread - its caring. In my eyes, I am killing time. It only takes a few minutes for me to write this up and get a rise out of you, pretty much proving how much of a dipshit you are by still crying about the old days when I wrote a script and it ruined your precious game. I feel sorry for you that you feel so strongly about it, maybe you should go outside and pick up some other hobbies than this game, maybe then you will understand how important this really is. Edited by SaVoR, Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:17 am.
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| SpeciaLisT | Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:41 pm Post #155 |
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Level 46
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who cares loool |
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| TeaLaGe | Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:25 pm Post #156 |
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Level 50
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Why dont u guys shut the fuck up and snipe. No point arguing. Prove it through snipers. Thats how the game was meant to be |
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| LockeD | Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:07 pm Post #157 |
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Cry to me Newbs
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You know what's funny about you beside the fact that you're a nerd for life? You keep thinking we're all idiots and we haven't read your game that you started years ago. Matter of fact, I don't even know why I even respond to a vermin that won't accomplish anything in this life. When I say 'We', I'm writing for the community, when I say you I mean you, tts, a liar and an hypocrite. As it was proven over the past, you have hacked (More than once), yes you have indeed had to rely on hacks to beat us. You also lied, (so many times we can't even count). Reminder of your last and pity attempt: http://s15.zetaboards.com/Sniper_League/topic/7289169/1/#new 2 Faces lol that you be your nickname. If you haven't noticed yet, you failed at everything, we know you by now and we are laughing. ''The fixation you have on me'', look who brought me in this first, you did buddy. You are an hypocrite and you are 2 faces. I don't give a fuck about you, yet I always ignore your message and you still try to suck on it. You try to add me recently, tried to act nice and suck my dick, but guess what? I don't give a fuck about you licking my ass, I've understood your sorry ass for a long time and I'm done with your shit. Yes I've killed your entire clan more than once and yes you are still in denial of everyone superiority over you but it's okay, no one cares anymore beside you. Take a look and everyone top list for a fresh reminder of where you stand compared to me. And if mav could complete his, I bet you could still find tears to drop from your sore and anorexic body. Wake up, live life you already wasted and stop being such a faggot. No one likes you. Open your eyes. Edited by LockeD, Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:58 pm.
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| TeaLaGe | Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:31 pm Post #158 |
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Level 50
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tts is just a sad loser who can't win without cheating. Fun fact: Smurfed as x)flipz(x, got caught, blatantly hacked/cheated, didn't admit or deny. Totally scandalous. |
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| SpeciaLisT | Sat Jun 22, 2013 9:20 am Post #159 |
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Level 46
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again who cares.... drama seems like the only activity on forums these past years....a strong motivator. might as well being Oragami back |
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| BanG | Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:56 pm Post #160 |
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You got -8mil posts man Caught by warden again..? |
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