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Testimonies; What Jesus can do
Topic Started: Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:47 am (544 Views)
SpeciaLisT
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:02 pm
TeaLaGe
Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:53 pm
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What are you talking about....If you read the bible you would know no human can withstand to see God and all his glory. Evidence is Jesus Christ that is correct. The whole point of him coming was to open the gates of heaven since it was Shut closed since Adam and Eve. So everyone that died Good or bad was sent to Hell. He brought everyone from Hell to heaven on that blessed day. JESUS is the evidence and FAITH is what we need today. A "story" like this would not happen from some drug addict that picked up a pen and paper lmao. Your right tho, God Does not help in anyway. All he does is show himself to you. Through Hardships we find God, its not uncommon. BUT GOD DOES NOT MAKE THESE HARDSHIPS. God simply allows it all to happen. EVerything does happen for a reason and at the end of it all it does depend on who you were and how you used your time. I know where your coming when Faith is all there is, and there have been wars. The most wars were caused by Muslims though, which is a fact. You are still ignorant. God exists...AND i've already said I'm not the best person to argue this because I'm still learning and trying to better myself. So Shut the HELL up and start reading. If you disagree, I don't care keep it to yourself. This topic is about TESTIMONIES not how God doesn't exist.


if no human can withstand or see god and all it's glory then you're referring to "faith". Where does faith stand when Christians get butchered by the Muslim in ancient times? How about when the Christian butchered every muslim in Jerusalem. LOL, you're saying god allows it to happen? Why? why does he allow people to die, why does he allow millions of Jews to die? why does 9/11 happened?

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The most wars were caused by Muslims though, which is a fact.
So now you're blaming Muslim. See my point? The blame games go on and on because of religions. You call me ignorant? Kid you don't know about about god/jesus to even talk. You're ignorant simply because you're stuck with blind faith. Before you point your fingers at Muslim, you should think to yourself "Why did it happen?" it's human nature. It's greed and lust for power and ambition.

God doesn't "allow" these things to happen simply because god isn't there. They happened because of a reason, 9/11? Conspiracy all day but god/jesus not part of this shit. 2012 Conspiracy? Not even god/jesus.

You tell me to read a bible? Kid please, you already stated you're not good at this, stop acting like you know it all. It's clear you can't back up your shit. THERE ISN'T A SHRED OF EVIDENCE GOD EXIST OTHER THEN "BLIND FAITH". WOULD YOU FOLLOW TTS IF DICE SAID HE WAS GOD? THE JESUS you're referring CANNOT EXIST simply because THERE IS NO EVIDENCE. You can play the "There's no evidence that he doesn't exist either", but in the end when it comes to the events happening RIGHT NOW, the truth comes out.

so to repeat your first line "What are you talking about...".

who are you to speak of what God does, with all these wars it's human nature just like you said, Jesus does exist and many many people have witnessed his miracles and preaching. I'm not good, yeah but it doesn't mean that I can't find someone to demolish you in this argument... as long as your able to hold profanity and actually ask questions and have an open mind instead of being stubborn and rude I can probably get someone.
and your forgetting one crucial element to all of these bad things happening, the devil
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:33 pm
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@ Druzil, If I'm the true definition of an idiot, you're a true definition of a sheep who blindly follow their master even if it mean killing themself.


Care to give some backing to your claim of me being a sheep? It doesn't make me a sheep to declare someone, who behaves in the way that you do, an idiot. I said your point had merit, despite the simple-minded way you have a knack for stating everything. Get your head out of your ass and join the adult table and have a grown-up conversation. Just because someone has a differing opinion from you doesn't make them an idiot. Behaving like an ignorant child and spouting profanities because your shit for brains can't find a more appropriate word doesn't help anyone on this forum, including and especially you.
You're a sheep because you don't have the ability to lead, the ability to follow is your greatest trait. Proven by countless years of you playing this game. Do you even play this game anymore?

The only thing you can do is sit on the sideline and act like you're a hotshit. Even with perfect grammar and perfectly formed sentences, it doesn't change the fact that you're nothing more then a stray dog looking for someone to lead on.

Why don't you get your head out of your ass and stop following people post and actually post something relevant. Get it right cow.

Your entire being here is irrelevant simply because you don't play the game whether or not this thread is related to snipers or not. Play the game? Let me know.

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who are you to speak of what God does, with all these wars it's human nature just like you said, Jesus does exist and many many people have witnessed his miracles and preaching. I'm not good, yeah but it doesn't mean that I can't find someone to demolish you in this argument... as long as your able to hold profanity and actually ask questions and have an open mind instead of being stubborn and rude I can probably get someone.


Show me where God and Jesus exist, and I will forever rest my case. Otherwise you're obviously clueless as daffy duck.

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Find anyone yet?

People who claim they have witness their miracles and preaching are lies or speculation. There isn't a single confirm case that involved Jesus doing ANYTHING. Ever watch those TV preachers? Damn they must be good at what they're doing.

Whether I use Profanity or not is highly irrelevant, as long as you keep sprouting nonsense, you are in no position to talk about my profanity. Same goes with anyone here.

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and your forgetting one crucial element to all of these bad things happening, the devil


oh okay, so i guess it's the devil fault that I have to take a shit or because I get into a car accident because some idiot wants to run red light.. You're tool.
Edited by TeaLaGe, Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:15 pm.
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Whatever you want to believe you may believe tealage. The human word "God" is for a higher being unknown to mankind. There are a lot of things unexplainable in this world, and a lot of things that remain a mystery. You did not solve anything, just like the Bible or any other religious book did. What we can question and believe in is that God exists, or we don't.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:14 pm
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who are you to speak of what God does, with all these wars it's human nature just like you said, Jesus does exist and many many people have witnessed his miracles and preaching. I'm not good, yeah but it doesn't mean that I can't find someone to demolish you in this argument... as long as your able to hold profanity and actually ask questions and have an open mind instead of being stubborn and rude I can probably get someone.


Show me where God and Jesus exist, and I will forever rest my case. Otherwise you're obviously clueless as daffy duck.

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Find anyone yet?

People who claim they have witness their miracles and preaching are lies or speculation. There isn't a single confirm case that involved Jesus doing ANYTHING. Ever watch those TV preachers? Damn they must be good at what they're doing.

Whether I use Profanity or not is highly irrelevant, as long as you keep sprouting nonsense, you are in no position to talk about my profanity. Same goes with anyone here.

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and your forgetting one crucial element to all of these bad things happening, the devil


oh okay, so i guess it's the devil fault that I have to take a shit or because I get into a car accident because some idiot wants to run red light.. You're tool.
no... intentions are devil, someone running a red light is human error or because they simply didn't care... and I know many people irl... ssing that doesn't mean shit... all that does is make you look like a fucking asshole.
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Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:47 am
Thought I'd share two testimonies that air on national television, and has been going on awhile now. A year ago I was in a pit. Drugs, thieving, running the streets.
I soon found myself alone. I was going through something I felt nobody could help me with, a emptiness. Nobody understood. I felt so far gone. Ever been there?
A emptiness that seems nobody can fill? Well there came a time when mine filled. I have never enjoyed life until now, and that was when I found Jesus Christ.
The story of mine is pretty wild, and my favorite miracle I've seen is myself. I can look back now and see that God had his hand on me, and pulled me straight out of a hole.
It's like looking through a oval carpet that is woven. You see one side of that carpet, but you cannot see the other side. That is God's side, He is doing something that you cannot see
that sometimes looks against you, but is for you. He makes a way, when there seems to be NO WAY. I hope you enjoy these two testimonies, the first, is my bestfriend Ashley Martin.
She came into my life a year and a half ago and everything completely changed. We both have never felt so alive in our life and God has used us as an example of a person put in your life
to bring you closer to God. See, He works with people more than things. So if someone shows up in your life unexpectedly, honor them. It could be for you. She has a powerful message
and testimony that should move your heart into another higher place. Next one is mine. Thanks and Enjoy!

****Oops it didn't load the whole thing soooo** (Part 1)
(Part 1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr3J2_dmRqI&feature=youtu.be


(Part 2 )http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4nnFOu75IQ&feature=youtu.be **The audio is not cooperating with the video but its short so I'll fix it later**
Y'all are clouded with your own disputes. This post was Icy explaining how he found God. Do not by any means make this about something bigger than what it has to be. If you don't believe in God, that's fine by me. Don't judge others thought just because their beliefs don't match yours.

Icy, I'm glad you have found a better position in life and I hope you continue down the path of righteousness. :D
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:20 pm
Whatever you want to believe you may believe tealage. The human word "God" is for a higher being unknown to mankind. There are a lot of things unexplainable in this world, and a lot of things that remain a mystery. You did not solve anything, just like the Bible or any other religious book did. What we can question and believe in is that God exists, or we don't.
True there are unexplainable things, but god/jesus is not one of them. The widely debated theory that god/jesus exist has never ended simply because those supporting the theory that they exist state a ridiculous liner "You have no evidence that they don't exist".

If you follow some rules in life then that's fine, but if you act like they are omniscient and can see all and do all, then you should join Scientology. Isn't Hubbard widely recognized as the "father of Scientology". It's the very same with Jesus. The only differences is Hubbard is completely batshit where as Jesus took it slow, brainwashing one at a time.

The word God/jesus is just another tool to control you. As long as the church has that imaginary person, you would believe anything they say.

It's not a matter of solving, it's the matter of arguing the FACTS. WHERE WAS GOD WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED? WHERE WAS GOD WHEN THE WAR ON TERROR HAPPEN?

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no... intentions are devil, someone running a red light is human error or because they simply didn't care... and I know many people irl... ssing that doesn't mean shit... all that does is make you look like a fucking asshole.


So what is the devil responsible for? If someone running a red light is human error "or they simply didn't care" COMPARED to someone shooting another person. it's the same shit.

Stop arguing about something you don't understand. Hit me with facts, not fictions
Edited by TeaLaGe, Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:35 pm.
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:28 pm
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Whatever you want to believe you may believe tealage. The human word "God" is for a higher being unknown to mankind. There are a lot of things unexplainable in this world, and a lot of things that remain a mystery. You did not solve anything, just like the Bible or any other religious book did. What we can question and believe in is that God exists, or we don't.
True there are unexplainable things, but god/jesus is not one of them. The widely debated theory that god/jesus exist has never ended simply because those supporting the theory that they exist state a ridiculous liner "You have no evidence that they don't exist".

If you follow some rules in life then that's fine, but if you act like they are omniscient and can see all and do all, then you should join Scientology. Isn't Hubbard widely recognized as the "father of Scientology". It's the very same with Jesus. The only differences is Hubbard is completely batshit where as Jesus took it slow, brainwashing one at a time.

The word God/jesus is just another tool to control you. As long as the church has that imaginary person, you would believe anything they say.

It's not a matter of solving, it's the matter of arguing the FACTS. WHERE WAS GOD WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED? WHERE WAS GOD WHEN THE WAR ON TERROR HAPPEN?

To say that Jesus didn't exist is laughable. He clearly was on Earth. There's proof. Do your research. Now, I am skeptical myself that he was "the only son of God," because we have new documents uncovered and time-stamped to be of Jesus' era that reveal Jesus actually saying we all have God inside us. The questions that remain about his life, and of his position in the world all remain "unknown." Some say he was buried in India around the age 100. Some say he rose up to heaven and will be seen again. These are all questions that we cannot answer because we do not have the indisputable evidence to determine what really happened with his life. We DO know he was here though.

The questions you ask at the end of your post are normal human questions. Some believe God cannot tamper with free-will, and I guess we all have to wonder about the unknown of one or two acts of individuals. The world is a magnificent place, and I personally believe the good in this life outweigh the bad. At the end of the day, your statements are all based on predictions too. God is unknown to mankind until God decides to reveal "itself." (Politically correct) :P
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:39 pm
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Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:20 pm
Whatever you want to believe you may believe tealage. The human word "God" is for a higher being unknown to mankind. There are a lot of things unexplainable in this world, and a lot of things that remain a mystery. You did not solve anything, just like the Bible or any other religious book did. What we can question and believe in is that God exists, or we don't.
True there are unexplainable things, but god/jesus is not one of them. The widely debated theory that god/jesus exist has never ended simply because those supporting the theory that they exist state a ridiculous liner "You have no evidence that they don't exist".

If you follow some rules in life then that's fine, but if you act like they are omniscient and can see all and do all, then you should join Scientology. Isn't Hubbard widely recognized as the "father of Scientology". It's the very same with Jesus. The only differences is Hubbard is completely batshit where as Jesus took it slow, brainwashing one at a time.

The word God/jesus is just another tool to control you. As long as the church has that imaginary person, you would believe anything they say.

It's not a matter of solving, it's the matter of arguing the FACTS. WHERE WAS GOD WHEN 9/11 HAPPENED? WHERE WAS GOD WHEN THE WAR ON TERROR HAPPEN?

To say that Jesus didn't exist is laughable. He clearly was on Earth. There's proof. Do your research. Now, I am skeptical myself that he was "the only son of God," because we have new documents uncovered and time-stamped to be of Jesus' era that reveal Jesus actually saying we all have God inside us. The questions that remain about his life, and of his position in the world all remain "unknown." Some say he was buried in India around the age 100. Some say he rose up to heaven and will be seen again. These are all questions that we cannot answer because we do not have the indisputable evidence to determine what really happened with his life. We DO know he was here though.

The questions you ask at the end of your post are normal human questions. Some believe God cannot tamper with free-will, and I guess we all have to wonder about the unknown of one or two acts of individuals. The world is a magnificent place, and I personally believe the good in this life outweigh the bad. At the end of the day, your statements are all based on predictions too. God is unknown to mankind until God decides to reveal "itself." (Politically correct) :P
Never said Jesus didn't exist. I SAID A JESUS IN THE RECORD BOOKS EXISTED.

You keep telling me to do my research when you offer no EVIDENCE whatsoever. WE do NOT have any evidence he existed. How do "WE know he was here?" SHOW ME THE FACTS. YOU GUYS OFFER NOTHING.

All you're doing is speculation "some says he rose, some day he was buried in..., we have new documents..."

Nothing. No concrete evidence.

Because of faith, we turn away from things that are right in our face.

God cannot tamper with free-will? Who are you kidding.
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I'm going to end this by saying. Faith is faith.... for the people who lived during Jesus's time, they are the lucky ones... we indeed are living through a true test... and one day close something will happen that I can't speak of since its from the revelations....it'd be considered preaching which would be a sin... unless I quote it correctly.
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@ Druzil, If I'm the true definition of an idiot, you're a true definition of a sheep who blindly follow their master even if it mean killing themself.


Care to give some backing to your claim of me being a sheep? It doesn't make me a sheep to declare someone, who behaves in the way that you do, an idiot. I said your point had merit, despite the simple-minded way you have a knack for stating everything. Get your head out of your ass and join the adult table and have a grown-up conversation. Just because someone has a differing opinion from you doesn't make them an idiot. Behaving like an ignorant child and spouting profanities because your shit for brains can't find a more appropriate word doesn't help anyone on this forum, including and especially you.
You're a sheep because you don't have the ability to lead, the ability to follow is your greatest trait. Proven by countless years of you playing this game. Do you even play this game anymore?

The only thing you can do is sit on the sideline and act like you're a hotshit. Even with perfect grammar and perfectly formed sentences, it doesn't change the fact that you're nothing more then a stray dog looking for someone to lead on.

Why don't you get your head out of your ass and stop following people post and actually post something relevant. Get it right cow.

Your entire being here is irrelevant simply because you don't play the game whether or not this thread is related to snipers or not. Play the game? Let me know.

I know what your meaning of sheep was, I asked you to provide some evidence to back your claim. Seeing as you failed to do so I'm going to surmise that you're just responding emotionally, given the fact you're just spewing baseless insults.

I did post something relevant. You attacked people based on their religion rather than having a discussion, and I called you out on it. If you had the mental capacity to go into a conversation with an ounce of open mindedness you might learn something in your life.

I play the game and this thread is relevant to me, so I'm not sure where you're going with this, no where as per usual I suppose. I don't see any point in continuing this quibble with you because you aren't able to conjure a coherent counter for anything I've mentioned, so if you want to continue this bullshit make another thread, I won't be replying in kind on this thread.
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Hey Yo IcY don't let Tealage Ruin it. Great stuff keep it up.
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Oh do not worry, this is the only subject I ENJOY talking about. First off, nobody can say anything in the Bible never happened, nor is not true.
The bible IS God's Word. People think the bible was written by man, which it was, but it was written by the Holy Spirit IN the man. God will work through you, if you believe Him and receive him. If you need proof or evidence of God, take a look around. How can I walk, and chew bubble gum at the same time? How does my brain wake up everyday instead of going dead when I go to sleep? How does the warm blood flow through my veins, while I breathe? God. The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit IN One. Now it might not make sense at first, it didn't to me either. When I first started reading the Bible, I started in the book of proverbs. Proverbs is about wisdom, understanding, rules, dark sayings, very good book. I was clueless. I asked God to show me what all this meant, and it seemed like forever to finally get the picture. You have to BELIEVE what your reading. You have to RECEIVE what your reading. You have to know that what is before you is something very, very important. The most important thing in life. Only then when you read, can you understand, with the help of the Holy Spirit. It takes time, it takes trials, tribulations, faults, longsufferings. The most important things in life are the things unseen, right? Love, appreciation, the good things. You cannot see those things. It's the things UNSEEN. God is unseen, He's not going to come out of a genie bottle to impress you. He's going to make you believe Him through faith. Through people telling you. Once preachers steer from Jesus and God's Word, and sidetrack you though other things, is how you know their false. By their fruits. Now we can also go on about the millions of testimonies, the thousand sightings of Jesus, the miracles and healings performed IN JESUS NAME. You have to step out of your own self righteousness, what you think is right. We as humans, our emotions are constantly changing. We are fucking clueless individuals. But there is a Rock, we all can lean on. Something that NEVER changes and NEVER speaks a promise that won't be fullfilled. Billy Graham was asked by someone, " Why did God allow the Oklahoma City Bombings?" Billy Graham answered, " I don't know. " This guy KNOWS EVERYTHING. God used him to save a quarter of the world! But apparently not, He must of knew the scripture in the Bible, "Lean not on thy own understanding." It's a personal road you have to take. If you just ask Him to show you, He will. But once He does, are you going to believe it? It's all up to us. He's there waiting, it's up to us to make a move.
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This thread is full of facepalm, im out
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If you need proof or evidence of God, take a look around. How can I walk, and chew bubble gum at the same time? How does my brain wake up everyday instead of going dead when I go to sleep? How does the warm blood flow through my veins, while I breathe? God.


Really? I can perfectly understand people having faith and their beliefs, but how can you say shit like simple motor function is evidence of God? Or the fact that you don't die during your sleep? Because you have faith, basic physiology is fully accredited to a higher power? That.. is ridiculous.
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Simple motor function? My opinion, it's much more complex than that. I cannot explain the human body functioning other than what I've learned from professors and scientists. It goes beyond what I can even explain. It might be ridiculous to you, but for me, HE saved my life
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Simple motor function? My opinion, it's much more complex than that. I cannot explain the human body functioning other than what I've learned from professors and scientists. It goes beyond what I can even explain. It might be ridiculous to you, but for me, HE saved my life
That's what I'm saying. If you feel that God is the reason you straightened your life out that's fine, I can respect that. But the point that I don't understand, is how you feel that being able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time is an admission of God's existence. In the same line of thought, how is it logical in your mind, to credit your body being able to breathe while simultaneously blood is being pumped through your veins (among other things)to God? Is that the way your life is? Everything that can be explained is proof that God exists?
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This is beyond logic. It's beyond everything your questioning. We can explain HOW the heart pumps blood to keep you alive through technology, among other things. I'm talking about the WHY? It's a personal testimony and my walk in life that showed me His existence. I cannot explain something that you haven't experienced.
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I think something similar to what icy is talking about is like how life didn't exist. it was a vast universe full of all these various elements... the big bang.... the placing of it is impeccable... it's not too close to the Sun, and not to far. we'd either be deep fried or a popsicle. either way we wouldn't have had life in earth. For both planets to hit at the perfect distance, with perfect elements for the perfect ingredients to create life is work of God. the bodily function is incredible, to have responses like when you swallow food, a flap closes upon your airway so you don't choke and die.... think about how we are all here, how we got here, what we are even doing here... now look at our history. we've had millions of testimonies about Jesus doing this and that... now throughout history, the devil as clever and cunning as he is, he would do whatever he can to try to stop, disrupt God's plan... throughout history people have been influenced even possessed by the devil to manipulate factsof history and to even create different religions etc. like Hitler killing 6 million Jews, wars in religion.... so many people thinking they ar fighting for their cause.

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