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DISCUSSION; Discussion about the league
Topic Started: Tue Feb 4, 2014 12:46 am (5,164 Views)
TeaLaGe
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Anything related to the league can be discussed here.
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Trav
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Tue Feb 4, 2014 11:46 pm
Trav
Tue Feb 4, 2014 11:39 pm
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Tue Feb 4, 2014 11:33 pm
Other than the constant dance towards the flag which people sometimes do, the only person who actually rses like this is TtS. I don't get what you guys are arguing about. Most of you guys don't even RS this way so why try to defend it haha.
Very true, I don't use this method of rsing anyway, but still... just because it is a different technique doesn't mean it is any less valid. He has to rs regardless of whether he runs straight in or if he moves laterally two clicks... That is the point.

Same thing we see in math. You could do 27 x 3 in numerous ways... using the old algorithm, lattice multiplication, or adding 3 groups of 27. Regardless, it is the same outcome...
You could also divide it by the momentum of the derivative + 2x over infinity divided by the hyperbola but noone uses it because it's fucking annoying and unnecessary.
sorry for the attack, but that literally makes 0 sense... we are now all dumber for having read that korean, thank you.
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Korean
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Trav
Tue Feb 4, 2014 11:55 pm
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Tue Feb 4, 2014 11:46 pm
Trav
Tue Feb 4, 2014 11:39 pm
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Tue Feb 4, 2014 11:33 pm
Other than the constant dance towards the flag which people sometimes do, the only person who actually rses like this is TtS. I don't get what you guys are arguing about. Most of you guys don't even RS this way so why try to defend it haha.
Very true, I don't use this method of rsing anyway, but still... just because it is a different technique doesn't mean it is any less valid. He has to rs regardless of whether he runs straight in or if he moves laterally two clicks... That is the point.

Same thing we see in math. You could do 27 x 3 in numerous ways... using the old algorithm, lattice multiplication, or adding 3 groups of 27. Regardless, it is the same outcome...
You could also divide it by the momentum of the derivative + 2x over infinity divided by the hyperbola but noone uses it because it's fucking annoying and unnecessary.
sorry for the attack, but that literally makes 0 sense... we are now all dumber for having read that korean, thank you.
My inspiration came from here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0xxGHLP81c
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Aztec
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I have no idea what video you guys are referencing, but dancing on an rs that you will have to kill no matter what is not a camp.
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777averick
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The CAMPING rule has been updated for when the "FLAG IS SET". Please read it since it is important for all participants to understand how it affects them.
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Druzil
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Trav
Tue Feb 4, 2014 10:49 pm
Druzil
Tue Feb 4, 2014 9:46 pm
Those types of plays have never been within the rules Spec, and people who do not see them as a camp are simply incorrect. If that situation were allowed consistently there would be too many instances of unnecessary respawn deaths.
Druzil, if you think that is "unnecessary" then what is "necessary" give the person rsing 1 full second of "cloak" then and the flagger has to "run" in order to flag. That is basically what you guys are saying. Why would the flagger have to keep the same motion the whole time, to give the rser advantage of an "easier" box???

The rs was going to be inevitable in camp 1... there is no way around him rsing that and flagging without killing rs. That is NOT a camp. If it was avoidable, then yes, it would be camp, but he was going to face the rs regardless of running straight in or not. So, again, that imo is not a camp.
That is not even remotely what I'm saying. I would appreciate it if you guys could discuss this without throwing out a fallacy every sentence. I did not say you have to keep the same motion. You two are just crying for the sake of crying without bringing any solid reasoning to refute the way the rule is stated.

You can't seriously be complaining about not having a distinct enough advantage over a player who you know is respawning, and WHEN he is respawning. Jesus. If you're worried about being boxed you can zigzag and dance to your heart's content, but lateral movement has never been allowed, nor should it be. That's the last I'm going to say about it.
Edited by Druzil, Wed Feb 5, 2014 12:53 am.
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SpeciaLisT
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Druzil
Wed Feb 5, 2014 12:50 am
Trav
Tue Feb 4, 2014 10:49 pm
Druzil
Tue Feb 4, 2014 9:46 pm
Those types of plays have never been within the rules Spec, and people who do not see them as a camp are simply incorrect. If that situation were allowed consistently there would be too many instances of unnecessary respawn deaths.
Druzil, if you think that is "unnecessary" then what is "necessary" give the person rsing 1 full second of "cloak" then and the flagger has to "run" in order to flag. That is basically what you guys are saying. Why would the flagger have to keep the same motion the whole time, to give the rser advantage of an "easier" box???

The rs was going to be inevitable in camp 1... there is no way around him rsing that and flagging without killing rs. That is NOT a camp. If it was avoidable, then yes, it would be camp, but he was going to face the rs regardless of running straight in or not. So, again, that imo is not a camp.
That is not even remotely what I'm saying. I would appreciate it if you guys could discuss this without throwing out a fallacy every sentence. I did not say you have to keep the same motion. You two are just crying for the sake of crying without bringing any solid reasoning to refute the way the rule is stated.

You can't seriously be complaining about not having a distinct enough advantage over a player who you know is respawning, and WHEN he is respawning. Jesus. If you're worried about being boxed you can zigzag and dance to your heart's content, but lateral movement has never been allowed, nor should it be. That's the last I'm going to say about it.
the advtange lies with the rser if u restrict movements....lets say you run in and run out, if u give ur back to the rser u'll die if they are pro. I almost guarantee u if they are facing u and they dont mc u will either dk or die every single time just because u have to look for 3 respawn points, ur back is turned and they only need to lock u with their box. You can even time rs's and prematurely let go of ur box perfectly to select ur unit to make that no longer a disadvantage... Now if you dont restrict movements, u can skillfully move in awkward ways or be able to anticapate wh ich way they box to let them mess up their boxes or even mc.

Now all of this is within 1 very simple rule...whether or not u HAVE tos hoot rs depending on the timing. I dont know why you think this is cheap and I dont know why you think this is camp, but this rule that is being implemented gives variety in approaching this flag...and just to be clear, the rser can still kill the person flagging...the map reflex champions will easily get u up to par.
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EmChamp
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Can I waive my rights to camp protection for league games? Basically, I want you to camp me so I can shoot you in the face when you try to dance me. Nt, but no one's camping me and not getting shot ;)
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TeaLaGe
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It states youtube or veoh in his rules...

ĦMust be uploaded onto YouTube or Veoh within 48 hours from time stamp where the game was initially played (for recorders)

Read the rules...


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640x480 video recording size (if you run Windows XP, you must set your screen to 640x50)


So it's that's fine right?...

Veoh is the worst place you can place any recording, there's no way to check if the videos are 640x480, no way to check for 24/24, as others many other features youtube grants you. As well as that, ADs are nearly in every single videos creating more time and work for us to check videos.

You can't even watch the full video without having to download the "Web player". More garbage on your computer.

Specialist, make sure YOU read all the rules. I don't anyone wants to hear you threaten to quit or complain about something when it starts. Make sure EVERYTHING suits you.
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BaSe
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Guys before this escalates.. its a big deal to tealage because he reviews these videos to make sure stats are correct. Its easier for him to check youtube. So if you Have to use veoh for whatever reason. just do your best to make sure the videos are the right size so they are legible.. & we can see all the proper checks. Otherwise its a good chance you might recive some infraction points
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777averick
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If there is no way around it I guess we might have to change it to YouTube only
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LockeD
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Are we allowed to reflag on the new map? Just wondering. Reflag at SS or end.
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777averick
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The league map will have the same options as 2.4 (I actually have no clue what the beacons do). Can someone confirm for me? Now should we allow reflags at the end of the game? I personally wouldn't mind having that eliminated completely and have games end in a timely fashion.
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FaZ-
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TeaLaGe
Fri Feb 7, 2014 11:22 am
there's no way to check if the videos are 640x480, no way to check for 24/24
Can someone explain to me why this actually matters?

I used to record in 12 fps and it was perfectly watchable.
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LockeD
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Its for the detection of sa i believe faz.

@mav im down with 1 reflag allowed at end.
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TeaLaGe
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At 12 fps or 10. Its very hard to judge if a player made a kill legitimately because the video is alot slower then normal gameplay. Think of it as the opposite of lan lat on cam

With 24 24 atleast the gameplay is smooth and seems to be at the correct speed that the games are played at.
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TeaLaGe
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need to upload and post exact copy of the map you want us to play...

3.0 or "sniper bald lock league". If "bald lock league", then it needs to be distributed properly with protection on the map..
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Trav
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Question about the "lat check anytime you alt out of the game" rule. At the end of the game, is it okay to lat check and then tab out to task manager? Or do I need to tab out, task/process, and then tab back in and lat check? I'm not real sure what hack this would catch, lat maybe, but just clarifying.
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TeaLaGe
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lat check and then tab out to task manager


Makes sense.

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Trav
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ok.
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LockeD
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Fuck lat check at end.. I do it troughout all the game. If i forget at end you can go fuck yourself niggas. I tab during all game so technically it doesnt change
Anything one more time at end.
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