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Topic Started: May 6 2015, 03:02 AM (3,114 Views)
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I have been going to seminary for a while, and Heyward is very knowledgeable as well. We want to answer any and all of your questions concerning the tenets and beliefs of Christianity: Who Christ is, why suffering exists, who God is, what is the nature of God, why Jesus had to die, is the Bible accurate, what does the Bible say, etc.

We want you to be comfortable with talking about Christianity, we will not try to argue our assert our beliefs upon you, we will just state them. Anything you want to ask, we will answer without judgement. If we don't hold up to our promises here, I am sorry.
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May 7 2015, 12:27 AM
they keep deleting my questions.

can god melt steel beams
21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

22 Then said Elijah unto the people, I, even I only, remain a prophet of the Lord; but Baal's prophets are four hundred and fifty men.

23 Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under:

24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the Lord: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.

25 And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under.

26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.

27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

28 And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them.

29 And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded.

30 And Elijah said unto all the people, Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the Lord that was broken down.

31 And Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, unto whom the word of the Lord came, saying, Israel shall be thy name:

32 And with the stones he built an altar in the name of the Lord: and he made a trench about the altar, as great as would contain two measures of seed.

33 And he put the wood in order, and cut the bullock in pieces, and laid him on the wood, and said, Fill four barrels with water, and pour it on the burnt sacrifice, and on the wood.

34 And he said, Do it the second time. And they did it the second time. And he said, Do it the third time. And they did it the third time.

35 And the water ran round about the altar; and he filled the trench also with water.

36 And it came to pass at the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near, and said, Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, let it be known this day that thou art God in Israel, and that I am thy servant, and that I have done all these things at thy word.

37 Hear me, O Lord, hear me, that this people may know that thou art the Lord God, and that thou hast turned their heart back again.

38 Then the fire of the Lord fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.


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ok cool.
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Here's a classic one; Can God create a stone so heavy that he can't lift it himself?

Also Planshy made me think how did Noah and his family and all of the animals etc survive without food.
You would imagine that if having a pair of each species was a lot then what about enough food for all of them for a month?
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Could Jesus actually walk on water?
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can Jesus see why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch?
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May 7 2015, 12:07 AM
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May 6 2015, 09:04 PM
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May 6 2015, 08:57 PM
they're not really either.
a wave is systematic motion of a medium, a particle is a localized amount of matter. light isn't either.
it certainly has properties of either
but it's not one or the other.
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once you get to a quantum mechanical scale, things start to get messy because the uncertainty principle comes into play (the statement that you cannot know exactly all of the information about a particle. think of it like a probability distribution, it has a certain probability centered around a point where it could be or what it's energy is or what it's momentum is or a lot of other formulations. in theory it could be anywhere, for a split second an electron normally associated with your body could be on the moon or jupiter or another galaxy.)
I believe the metaphor can still stand. Does a photon show properties of both at the same time?

What about triple point, it's a little weaker of an analogy, but eh?
dont try and argue with someone who majors in a topic that you have very little knowledge compared to them it makes you look foolish
I was trying to get his opinion on whether my metaphor was still viable, not argue. thanks.
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May 7 2015, 03:53 AM
Here's a classic one; Can God create a stone so heavy that he can't lift it himself?

Also Planshy made me think how did Noah and his family and all of the animals etc survive without food.
You would imagine that if having a pair of each species was a lot then what about enough food for all of them for a month?
That's a paradox and paradox's are in no way any decent means to find truth.

But, in my head I'd say yes, God can make a rock that big, and then no, he can't. Because God is yet again ab;e to move outside of our logic of the world. But who knows?

Pichu, Jesus walked on water.
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May 7 2015, 10:33 AM
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May 7 2015, 03:53 AM
Here's a classic one; Can God create a stone so heavy that he can't lift it himself?

Also Planshy made me think how did Noah and his family and all of the animals etc survive without food.
You would imagine that if having a pair of each species was a lot then what about enough food for all of them for a month?
That's a paradox and paradox's are in no way any decent means to find truth.

But, in my head I'd say yes, God can make a rock that big, and then no, he can't. Because God is yet again ab;e to move outside of our logic of the world. But who knows?

Pichu, Jesus walked on water.
Also to answer your question about Noah; I don't believe it explicitly says anything anything about food, or anything, but I'm sure they packed some. Or I think I've heard someone you can survive around 40 something days without food. Or who knows, maybe God did something to keep them fed, he fed the almost 200000 people out in the Sinai peninsula for 40 years.
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May 6 2015, 05:58 PM
Meant to quote Heyward here but forgot. But yeah this is directed at Heyward

Ok let's see.

God just makes one guy suffer for no apparent reason
Then the guy asks why
God is like "Nigga you can't question me"

Yeah instead of taking it seriously and describing him the best I can
I'll take the easy route of calling him an asshole.
A dick, a douchebag. Whatever term may you prefer.

I am very sorry if this uhh... is offensive to you. I have nothing against you
But that's my point of view atm.

Don't worry, I did think this way before this thread too, and was aware of Job's book.
I went to a confirmation class where we learned about God, Jesus and what good churches do for a week.
I don't think I ever accurately answered this question.

God told Job not to question his ways and his means, because he has created everything. He is powerful enough, God wanted Job to rest in his power and worry about nothing. God created everything and is in control of everything, even suffering. If he is powerful enough to create everything out of nothing, then he is smart enough to what he is doing, yah know? It wasn't God being a dick and telling Job not to question him, it was God being a father and telling his son not to question him because the father knew what was best and (in the instance of God) would know what would come of everything--it would be Christ's glory.

In this instance, even in one of the oldest Biblical stories we see God's diving knowledge of the future he has written for his Son. All things are made through, for, and sustained in Christ. It is for his glory that suffering exists, and this isn't a bad thing--because our happiest is when Christ is glorified the most. Our happiness is found in Christ, so when our lives consist of nothing but focusing on Christ, that is when we will be most happy, because he is our savior, our creator, our sustainer, our shepherd, our friend, our father.

So God is not a dick, he is a father who is in control of everything, he knows what's best, so why are we going to question a perfect being, who innately knows the best course of history, who is always on our side, who will never forsake us, who is doing this for us, and who cares for us in a way we can never care for anything? Even if we are going through tough times, why would we question him? I'm not saying it's a sin to question God, it just shouldn't be taken lightly. If you ever have a chance to read the ending of Job, I would suggest it. You see ultimately God's divine power and knowledge displayed in one of the best ways in the Bible.
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God doesn't control what happens down on Earth. Wouldn't you agree? If one person suffers then it doesn't make God a dick because God isn't responsible for that person's suffering. The world and its natural worldly circumstances are.

My idea:
You're not born with a disability because of God, you're born with a disability due to whatever circumstances made it be.

Some Christian's Idea?:
Everything happens for a reason, and God is responsible for a lot of those things.
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