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FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL; Locke, Sayid, Charlie
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WELCOME TO OUR FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL!








LOCKE . . .


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The three of you have been through quite a lot to get to this point. We all know that Tribal Council is the place where you are held accountable for your actions. That is definitely the case here.




You will be questioned by your JURY.




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* * * NO ONE SHOULD POST HERE UNLESS IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK. NO RANDOM COMMENTS. I WILL TELL EACH JUROR WHEN IT IS THEIR TURN TO ADDRESS OUR FINAL THREE. EACH JUROR GETS TO POST THEIR SPEECH. THE FINAL THREE WILL RESPOND BASED ON WHAT THEY STATE. AND THEN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT JUROR. * * *




* * * FOR THE FINAL THREE, WHATEVER YOU ANSWER, PUT IT IN YOUR ONE COMMENT DURING EACH JUROR'S TURN...NOT MULTIPLE COMMENTS. AT THE END, OUR FINAL THREE POST THEIR CLOSING STATEMENT. AND THEN WE VOTE. * * *






LET'S GET STARTED WITH OPENING STATEMENTS. ALL THREE OF YOU, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND POST YOUR OPENING SPEECH.









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Dear Jurors,

I feel bleedin' honored to be here at the final 3. It has been a long journey moving from the Harmad to New Marhad, and finally completing the trek through the Dharma Initiative. I am eager to answer all of yer questions and I am will dae my dogs bollocks to answer em to the dogs bollocks of my ability.

yeh might hae observed me say this before but before yeh begin with questions I would fancy to reiterate that I hae played a bleedin' thoughtful game. I played a bleedin' observant game bleedin' early on and made some bleedin' specific decisions about how I would approach my social and strategic game in the shuffle and the merge.

Anyone who takes a gander at some of the 12 topics over in the Jungle could see that big personalities were emerging in the game even before we shared the same camp. I began to size up my competition immediately and employed a game of specific restraint to ensure my survival.

Please dae not make me as a coattail rider. I think yeh will find there are quite a few players who I had engaged in bleedin' strategic conversations throughout the longevity of the game. I formed some really sterling bonds along the way, some that I greatly cherished. I altered my social play as needed to be involved but not so involved that I would be the constant highlight of a target, which unfortunately had me yakking with others much less than I would normally fancy. My hope was that other Losties were going to tighten their own noose at the centre of the town square for their over the top personalities or attempts to be over controlling. Many were downright difficult to trust because I could perceive when thou might hae different or alternative motives, plans and alliances.

That being said, I formed really strong connections with Locke and Claire which may or may not hae been all that mutual. There were many other networks which I established because I never wanted to close the door on potential opportunities and wanted as many back up plans as possible. I never wanted to intentionally stay in the box but found that the perception of "in the box" was often my bessy route for safety based on the trust I had established or gained in others.

I hope yeh find me deserving of the title of Sole Survivor. I really enjoyed the open, honest dialogues I had along the way. I considered myself a loyal and trustworthy ally. I alligned myself with those who I felt I could trust and tried to employ the dogs bollocks social and strategic game that worked for my character within my alliances and those with whom I networked around me.

cheers for taking the time and energy yeh hae put into the comments and questions we are about to answer. I am ready to tackle yer questions head on until yeh are satisfied.

*smashes Virgin Mary Statue*

yeh, don't mind if I dae, right? So, let's get this party started!

Cheers,
Charlie
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Just want to start off by saying how amazing and thankful I am to be here. I'll borrow the wise words from Christian Shepherd when I say, "Nobody does it alone," and thank most of y'all sitting in the Jury for helping me get to this point. Now, I'm not sorry for voting you off, but I do recognize that there were specific instances in this game where I needed y'all's help to get where I wanted to go and I am grateful for that, whether that is something you regret doing or not. I look forward to hearing your thoughts and answering your questions tonight. I think most of you all got to know me well enough to know that I will give you a thoughtful and in-depth response. I won't hold back on why I think I should win, and I don't expect the two gentlemen sitting next to me to hold back either. With that said, I'll fill you in on how I got here from my own limited point of view and why I think I played the best game. Now, on with the show...

Locke was my favorite character on LOST, and there wasn't a close second. The moment you realize he was paralyzed at the end of "Walkabout" has got to rank up there as one of the best television moments of all time. Terry O'Quinn always was masterful in the role, especially with his eyes, smiles and facial expressions, and that smirk he gives as he watches his wheelchair burn in the beach fire is one of his finest moments. However, when I realized I was assigned his character I actually felt a sort of burden. Here I was, one of the most pivotal, dynamic and interesting characters of the show's run, and I was deathly afraid of not doing him justice in this game. I also realized that there was no chance in the Sideways World I could play under the radar with John Locke lest I end up getting tricked into being strangled from behind. It just wasn't going to happen.

So, I started off doing what I do best: write. I wrote all the members of my tribe, initially avoiding any strategy talk, and just tried to present myself as someone who was active, easy to communicate with and well-spoken and surmising that they'd take that as someone they'd want to work with. As the game progressed, so did the strategy. I saw the re-shuffle coming and immediately sent out a PM to both Sayid and Jack, saying that no matter what happens we would hook back up at the merge.

When New Mardah was formed, and I was lucky enough to end up with Sayid, I sent out lengthy and welcoming messages to everyone on the tribe. And they approached me back quite candidly. When the guy's alliance was formed, catalyzed by a very forward Desmond, the very first night, and not knowing the extent of James and Desmond's relationship, I knew Charlie would be a key swing player and I told Sayid to saddle up to him, much like I did, and a tight alliance within an alliance was born. I also progressed my relationship with Jame's and we seemed to have a similar take on things and bonded pretty quickly. After Shannon's blindside consolidated what was now the BAMF Alliance, I made sure to keep up my conversations with Juliet, trying my best to preserve any sort of relationship that could come in handy for a future merge.

The last tribal challenge was a huge point in this game for me. I personally played a huge role in beating the other tribe that night and unknowingly insured my tribe the numbers advantage going into the merge as well as putting a huge target on my own back at an inopportune time in the game. I said it in my confessional at the time but I truly felt if I could get through those first few merge votes, than the game would be in my hands. I knew I would be the opposite side's target and I still had skepticism of Desmond's intentions from the way he would phrase things in a short and blunt manner. I also was nervous that Juliet would be prone to jump ship with Claire and whomever she was aligned with. Nevertheless, when the merge hit I tried my best to endear myself to every person on the opposing tribe in an effort to deflect any heat off of me while keeping up constanst contact with everyone in my alliance.

We all know how that vote went down, and how drastically it shaped the rest of the game, but the point is, is that James and Juliet either trusted, liked or found me more useful in their own plans, and voted with me when they could have taken me out right then and there. I'd to think that I had a major role in that.

From that point on I felt comfortable with almost every person in this game (well, not Desmond, but no body trusted him at that point), but especially so with Charlie, Sayid and James. I truly was getting the sense that each one of them considered me their #1 ally. And they all had their own mini-alliances and side deals working so I had information pouring into me from every single corner of the Island. Sayid was close with Jack and was friendly with Desmond. Charlie was cuddling up with Claire. James had Hugo and Juliet covered. I maintained contact with everyone. I knew no move could be pulled off against me without me ever knowing about it.

Now, to some of you I was Locke, but to most I was probably the Man in Black ("I'm sorry you had to see me like that."). I ran long cons, broke promises, made alliances I know I couldn't keep. I'll be the first to admit, I played a highly risky game. I said the same things to a lot of people which gave me options, telling them that I was out there lying my ass off to people but that I was only "true to them". It allowed me to vote with whomever I felt and them feel completely like I was on their side after the fact. Whether y'all traded notes or not, I don't know and I don't care, because there was never a majority to try to take me down. And it was shocking to me, but the fact is I had enough people truly believing in me or liking me, that even those who didn't believe weren't able to make a move. I shrunk the board. And that was my goal.

Locke was a Man of Faith, and I had to have a lot of belief in the game I was playing to get to where I am. I didn't panic at the Libby vote and I didn't panic anytime after, but I certainly had my moments of anxiety. My trust in the players that made it to the F4 were always being tested, but I stuck with them because I felt like I was their best option and they enjoyed that me being in the game took the focus off of them. Go back in my confessionals and you will see that I predicted this F4 as early as when there were 13 people left in this game. Did I change my mind at points? Certainly. But that's besides the point because I ultimately decided, painstakingly, which move was best for me each and every round. I wrote every single one of y'alls names down and can honestly say I was a part of every single one of you being there in the jury. I'm not ashamed of that.

Now the two players sitting next to me played great games. Great, solid games and they were great allies. They voted the same way I did from the beginning of the game until the end, more or less. But neither of them was ever as big a target as I was. Their names weren't the names everyone was throwing around almost every vote after the merge as a "huge threat". Nor were either of them as active as I was. I don't think any of you can make a case that I wasn't one of the most active players on here. I never made you anybody wait for a response to a message they sent me. Hell, I think that is a big reason I am here. I never made a big or game changing move, not in the crazy Desmond sense of the game, but I worked tirelessly to try build relationships with everybody on some level so that the majority would always be on my side (i.e. the Libby vote). I NEVER had immunity and was vulnerable every single tribal so I had to make sure that I had all my ducks in a row, that I knew all the potential moves and I knew which way I wanted my alliance to go. I was always prepared. I would also like to remind you that Whatever Happened, Happened. Charlie is deserving to be here, I'm happy he is here, and I've loved playing with him, but he was also voted out of this game the other night and I do not think that is something that should be ignored tonight, although I won't mention it again and it doesn't take anything away from the fact he put himself in this position.

I understand that as jurors each and everyone of you can vote based on whatever criteria you feel justified. Whoever y'all decide is the winner will be the most deserving. That's the game. The jury decides, I understand that as a fundamental element of Survivor. However you vote though, I would hope you can respect how I got to be here and how hard I worked to do so. Unlike John Locke on the show, who never found the validation for his Faith he so desperately sought, I hope the John Locke, the one who is here right now with you, can.

Me, I'm a Man of Faith. This is my destiny.
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Cant' Regret, Won't Forget my journey. I came, I saw, I conquered - vote me if you can appreciate the guy who did all of Locke's dirty work. If you are tired of Charlie's fake British accent, then vote for me. I played a descent game and aligned myself with those I could trust. Hell, some of you trusted me more than I trusted myself. It's been a nice run and I enjoyed playing the game with everybody. I am looking forward to meeting you all on the..................wait for it, wait for it..............OTHER SIDE.
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SAWYER, START US OFF.
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The reason that you should vote for me over the two gentlemen sitting next to me is................oh wait, wrong speech. That was the one I should have been giving tonight. Sorry I couldn't be here in person to ask you these questions, then again if I was I guess I wouldn't be asking them, I'd be answering them.

So without further ado, lets get this show on the road. I requested to go first and here I am, your Bad Ass Mother Fuckin' brother. Some people on the jury (mostly everyone who LOST lol) will say we were boring and reducing this game to a predictable snoozefest, and I guess if we had been on the other side of things we would probably be saying the same shit but guess what? WE DID IT in spite of the fact that everyone knew we were doing it and there were more of "them" than there were of "us", so despite whatever is said here tonight, hold your head's high and be proud of what you accomplished and congratulations.

Since I know pretty much all I need to know to make my decision I will ask questions that I think others need to know or that I think there may be misconceptions about in order to give each of you a fair chance to tell your story.

Charlie, using as many fake australian accented words as you can squeeze in
A ) please make a case for why someone who was voted out of this game deserves to win it.
B )please explain why you didn't take the time or perceived effort to get to know and chat with EVERY SINGLE person on the Jury. Was it a case of using John and Sayid as a shield to spread your agenda while you were tucked away safely behind them pulling the strings, laziness, lack of social game, inability to write to many PM's in Ye Old Eglish or something else?
C ) What do you predict the final vote of this tribal council will be?

Sayid, using the foulest language you can think of
A ) Starting with the Claire vote (that is where the game really started in my opinion) please explain your involvement and thinking in each of the votes starting with that one.
B ) Please clearly explain why your were not John's lapdog blindly following his lead while putting minimum effort into the game. Highlight your relationship with me and jack in particular, as well as any others
C ) please explain whether you thought you had any possibility of beating either myself and/or Locke. If you did, detail how and why and if you didn't explain why you took us to the finals anyway. (Hint-for me 'loyalty' is a perfectly acceptable answer but I am not sure the rest will see it that way-you don't want to be portrayed as a "Denise" LOL)

John, in your very bestest Sawyer impression (my awesome version, not the second rate TV guy) (extra credit for every time you use the phrase "DRUCK" and spell a word wrong or fail to capitalize or punctuate properly)
Please explain how you were in complete control of this game in every way from "New Mardah" days on. I'd like to hear about how you were getting super secret info from myself, sayarlie, claire, des, ect. Also, in a final act of self indulgence, please give a short explanation of our relationship and my part in your master plan.

Good Luck boys---see you at the reunion! And congrats to our winner! Next we meet I will no longer be Sawyer but sadly the real me isn't much different HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! SON OF A BITCH! (I been waiting all game to say that when I got voted out, but it never came to pass :) )
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Haha, first off, I would like to say it would be a discredit to both you and your character if I even attemped to try and give a Sawyer impression right now. Secondly, I am not DRUCK, so it would probably be pretty damn hard to even try. Give me a few hours and I can get some whiskey and give it a shot? No? Alright then...

I think it is unfair to say you are ever in complete control of this game. I was always very wary and very conscientious to never let my guard down, even when I felt I was shielded by strong allies. But as I said in my opening statement, I had conversations going with EVERY PERSON ON THIS ISLAND more or less. I was usually on and almost always sending out messages. Every person's name I wrote down they went home, and most of the time I was the one kick-starting the conversations of that vote. I tried my best to make both Claire and Juliet believe I was a solid ally of theirs and I had multiple Group PM's going out that included Sayid and Person X, often times with the same messages. I can honestly say I that I was your number one, I was Sayid's number one and I was Charlie's number. You know how I know that? Because I wouldn't have made it this far if I wasn't. You all had the ammunition to turn on me and you didn't. That is a damn hard thing to accomplish in this game. Also, I really had a pretty complete picture of the Island. I traded notes and stories and knew that no move could be pulled off against me without me ever hearing about it first. That's what happens when you ingratiate yourself with everyone on some level, and I was able to do that. So, I might not have been the puppet master, because that would degrade the two sitting next to me who both voted along with me most of the time, but I certainly think I knew the most about what was going on, and that was because I put in the time to find out.

And to you James, let's just say if it were a F2, it would have been a really hard decision to choose between Sayid and yourself. You both were extremely instrumental in getting me here. There were times when I trusted Sayid more than you and times I trusted you more than Sayid. We just seemed to hit it off right after the reshuffle and continued to build from there. You saved my ass at the Libby vote, you know that, everyone knows that, and then I knew I had you on my side from there on in. If you were going to get rid of me, it would have been there, but you chose me. I'm thankful for that. I know you had chances to turn on me again, and you didn't and I'd like to thank I had a major influence on that.

Now, if you only weren't such a DRUK...
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*If we don't have an answer by 5:40 from Charlie and Sayid, we move on. Sawyer's question was posted almost 30 minutes ago. That is more than enough time.*
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YOU'RE UP, DANIELLE.
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Congratulations to all of you,I'm not going to be one of those bitter jury members, but it appears as a viewer, Survivor Lost would be cancled, and I would be changing the channel.I guess, that's why hidden immunity idols are used. We can't all be a Richard Hatch, Russell Hantz, Rob Cesternio or  Boston Rob,but my question for all you is, did you ever think outside of the box , or make any bold moves during the game and when was it, or were you playing a game of musical chairs and waiting for your number to come up?

Thank you and good luck.
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Hey Sawyer, let me start out by saying........you were one crazy mother fucker and I'm eager to meet you on the other side. Reality is an illusion created by lack of alcohol in my opinion and today I am toasting the fun I had with you in this game. Bottoms up my friend.

The Claire vote and my involvement in it? I knew that Charlie and Claire were close and Claire needed to be eliminated. Locke was in agreement with me on that and we had a final three deal with Charlie. It's that simple, she had to go.

I'm no one's lap dog, you can't put me on a leash so fuck off. I agreed with the decisions Locke and I made together. My biggest mistake was not voting him out after I won the last immunity challenge. When it came right down to it, I didn't have the heart to cut him loose. Loyalty is more important to me at the end of the day. My relationship with you was based purely on testosterone and alcohol. You kept me laughing and kept the game light and I love you for that man.

Jack was a good man and I trusted him from the very start. My relationship with Jack was built on some funny ass email exchanges. Both of us were busy in the outside world and were not able to contribute as much time to the game as other players but we stayed connected. I wish I could have taken Jack to the F3.

I knew I had no chance of beating you or Locke in the end but damn it, I was loyal to the both of ya. I was all about the BAMF alliance to the end. I don't give a damn if anybody wants to portray me as a "Denise", who the fuck is she anyway???

So vote for me you sorry mother fucker and don't make me have to twist your arm.





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Sawyer,

I'd be chuffed to squeeze in as many aussie words, however I am not aussie. I will dae my dogs bollocks to squeeze in as many British words though. Hopefully yeh will accept that just as well.

A ) please make a case for why someone who was voted out of this game deserves to win it.

I would fancy to think that part of the reason I was voted out is that I was competition for the final players in the game. That bleedin' much became the reasoning for taking people out in the final rounds. thou might not think that someone being reinstated is deserving of the prize, but regardless one should not undervalue the game I chose to play. Survivor is a game of twists and turns. whilst Survivor has its predictable parts, taking the famous Big Brother saying, we should always expect the unexpected. And the unexpected doesn't make people any less deserving it means we all hae to hae the flexibility to deal with the new situation and see it in a new light. My arrival to final 3 may not be conventional, but I don't think I am any less deserving as John or Sayid. We all played hard, smashing games.

B )please explain why you didn't take the time or perceived effort to get to know and chat with EVERY SINGLE person on the Jury. Was it a case of using John and Sayid as a shield to spread your agenda while you were tucked away safely behind them pulling the strings, laziness, lack of social game, inability to write to many PM's in Ye Old Eglish or something else?

There are many reasons why I spent more time with specific lads and lasses than others. First, as I mentioned in my opening statement, in my eyes, there were numerous overpowering personalities. I did not expect these personalities to dae graft for me, but I did expect em to slowly dig their own graves with their over the top social games.

The fact of the matter is that Charlie does not fancy to be a fake chap. There were some conversations I began with players that would just go no where. I fancy to speak much more candidly and openly. When I get message after message of vague inuendos, surface level talk, and an unwillingness to dialogue then I find it greatly difficult to trust em and build a relationship. I find it even more difficult to continue pretending we are more than what we are just to pacify the person. I will say that there are a few people who I did not give much time to and that was partly because I had sterling difficulty seeing a vision where they would be integral into furthering my game. Both Hurley and Danielle are probably the two people I owe the biggest apologies to for not really pushing the conversation further. I take responsibility for my lack of initiative there but please understand that I was not caring to create false hope or relationships and I was trying to remain under the radar socially as to not make myself a target.

I did not use Sayid or Locke as a shield. I did not hide behind em. I was an integral conversationalist with em. I also feel I had really mint dialogues with Desmond, before Desmond-gate and even shortly after it before Desmond-gate part 2. Desmond was probably the one person I was most wary of, but he became one person that I felt I was able to confortably dialogue with. Lastly, I also felt bleedin' strong about my connection with Claire. Claire and I had a genuine connection in the game. ring up it predictable but it was real. She and I had discussed many things socially and strategically and were looking at all of our options. By not hiding behind Sayid and Locke, I was working on ideas and plans in case Sayid and Locke were not the real deal. I think that it was my relationship with Claire, whilst I was NOT hiding behind my too allies, was part of her demise. I believe they found our partnership threatening as they should hae.

And, yes, maintaining character does require graft and effort and time. And, I really wanted to dae justice to Charlie but also respect my real life as well and my desire to get at least 5 hours kip a night. I knew I had to make tough choices about my social game trying to play a lower key social game with restraint. As it is not my nature.


C ) What do you predict the final vote of this tribal council will be?

I think that the jury will probably not see value in the games that Sayid and I played. I expect they will gander to Locke being a more public figure throughout the season. whilst not as public, I still worked hard to get here with a sterling deal of teaming and strategy.

That being said, I think that
Locke will get 5 votes
Charlie will get 1 vote
Sayid will get 1 vote.
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Well, I disagree with your logic Danielle.

First, Richard Hatch invented Pagonging. He didn't have hidden immunity idols and he just stuck with his initial numbers the entire time. So, this notion he was an ultra-aggressive player is really just a myth.

And I wouldn't compare myself to Russell Hantz, Rob C and Boston Rob...because none of them played winning strategies.

I played this game to have fun...and win. But those aren't mutually exclusive. I wanted to be here as long as possible and that takes sound strategy. If I ever thought that a move could better position myself to be here than sticking with my allies, than I would have done it. The truth is I never needed to make a bold move in this game because I was PROACTIVE and set myself in a good position each and every round.

I was always thinking outside the box though and I always weighed various options. There was a time I seriously wanted it to be and Claire at the end, and there was a time I wanted to save Desmond. I always went through options and scenarios. In the end, I took the best path to here...and well, here I sit. I'm not complaining. Maybe it wouldn't have been your favorite season, but I loved Palau and the theme for that was...dominance.
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Hello Danielle you sexy beast.

My bold move was made when I voted for Desmond and forced a tie the night Libby was voted out. I voted out of pure emotion and feelings of betrayal. It was pretty awesome to get the excitement stirred up that night, if only for a moment.




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I know I'm breaking the one post rule (Don't tell what I can't do!) but I'd also like to add that aside from Claire and Desmond (in his dying hours), the players I was with at the end were the ones I enjoyed speaking with the most and the ones who were the most responsive to me. I had fun with them, so I wanted them around as long as possible. I didn't want to be stuck in the end with people who would give me short and vague responses.
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