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| The Ghost of Corazon | Jul 17 2015, 10:14 AM Post #1 |
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This is where you talk about Star Trek. |
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| Gedatsu | Jul 17 2015, 12:01 PM Post #2 |
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The Bermuda Triangle
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Blue Jackets> Yellow Jackets |
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| Nami | Jul 17 2015, 12:04 PM Post #3 |
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Sigh, I really needed you guys to win this one. ![]() This is a really sucky situation for me because I DO have an Idol, but I won't use it to vote out Olvia. I'm so sorry, Gedatsu.
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| Tashigi | Jul 17 2015, 12:08 PM Post #4 |
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Super Executive Lackey Jr.
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Nami I understand you're conflicted but if we don't take Olvia out now we're all done for. Chouchou, Olvia and Laboon will vote us all out one by one. Even if we get Chouchou out next TC using the idol, if Gedatsu is gone by then, it will be a deadlock tie in the final four and I really don't want that.
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| Tashigi | Jul 17 2015, 12:09 PM Post #5 |
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Super Executive Lackey Jr.
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If Olvia goes now, we'll have a clear majority in future tribal councils. Us three can steamroll to the final three. |
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| Gedatsu | Jul 17 2015, 12:30 PM Post #6 |
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While I definitely understand that, with how much certainty can you say that Olvia will keep you around once she, Laboon and Chouchou get a majority? Especially with Chouchou. |
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| Gedatsu | Jul 17 2015, 12:31 PM Post #7 |
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And how the hell do you people keep getting all these idols? |
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| Tashigi | Jul 17 2015, 02:56 PM Post #8 |
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Nami since you have the idol, Olvia doesn't necessarily even have to know you betrayed her. Wanting to keep her in the game no matter what sends us the signal that you definitely want to be in the final with her, for whatever reason, and not only is that unrealistic considering Chouchou and Laboon exist, it's also unfair because it's saying Gedatsu and I aren't good enough. We used an idol on YOU when we thought you might have been in danger and we're willing to go with you to the end. Olvia has done neither of those things. We're the underdogs here, we need to stick together. Nami even if you somehow made it to the final with Olvia, I kinda doubt you'd win.
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| Tashigi | Jul 17 2015, 05:29 PM Post #9 |
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By the way benevolent overseers, can we get confirmation on whether Nami's idol is usable next cycle or not? Because my idol said that it "will expire when we reach the cycle of the Final 5". I assumed that meant it's no longer usable in the final five and I find it strange that different idols would have different expiration dates. |
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| Nami | Jul 17 2015, 05:30 PM Post #10 |
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Mine says the same thing but I assume that meant I can use it in the final five. |
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| Nami | Jul 17 2015, 05:42 PM Post #11 |
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Sigh. Okay im going to be honest with you guys. I trust Olvia more than anyone else in this game. We went through 4 TCs together at Trebol and at each one we had the opportunity to vote out each other but we never did. Ive made a promise to never vote her out and it is one of the two promises in this game I dont want tobreak until I absolutely have to. With that said, the other promise I made to you Tashigi and I still have every intention of keeping it. Its just that I value my word with both of you very deeply. The easy way out for me is to vote for the only option that doesnt cause me to break either promise, which is you Geda. But Im still not sure what to do. I know you guys need me to do this thing but i cant promise you anything. |
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| Donquixote Doflamingo | Jul 17 2015, 06:25 PM Post #12 |
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Every idol has the same expiration date, which is the end of the cycle of the Final 5. |
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| Tashigi | Jul 17 2015, 06:30 PM Post #13 |
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I really respect your honesty and integrity and I feel your pain but this is a game and I strongly feel like it just isn't possible for you to keep both promises and still win. You may trust Olvia more than anyone else in this game but she doesn't trust you more than anyone else. :/ She didn't tell you about Chou having or using an idol until it was too late. It was very nice of her not to vote you out earlier but I still insist that when forced to choose between Chou, Laboon and you, she'll vote you. |
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| Tashigi | Jul 17 2015, 06:31 PM Post #14 |
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Ok thanks, I interpreted it wrong |
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| Gedatsu | Jul 17 2015, 09:54 PM Post #15 |
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Well, I'm going off to bed, so I'll just make one final statment that comes from a guy that wants to save his teddy bear, but also from a guy that is trying to give a somewhat objective advice (or at least objective from my perspective). I'm obviously not entirely sure about what promises you made with each other, but if you made a promise with both Tashigi and Olvia, and that implies taking them both to the final 3, I honestly belive that is absolutely impossible. I just can't see Olvia betraying Chouchou or Laboon for that matter. You will have to choose between the two of them at some point. So which should you choose? That's a no brainer. Tashigi. Simply from a logical point of view, I don't believe there is a scenario where Tashigi could win anything by betraying you. If she did, she would just be entering a dead end. I honestly can't say the same about Olvia. I've always classified her as an incognita and I keep that. You simply can't predict what she's going to do. You mentioned above that you weren't voted off already because of her, but. There were always viable alternatives. Helmeppo, 4, Momo, Fuka, Koala, Jerry, Me I guess. The question is, what will happen once all the alternatives disappear? If there are 4 people left (you and them), why would she abandon her almost guaranteed finalist place to risk it all vs Chouchou and Laboon? With me and Tashigi, I would say a final 3 is guaranteed and a top 2 is very likely. That's just way I see it. Obviously I might be missing some pieces of info since I have no acess to your Pms. From a logical point of view, I feel like there is only one safe alternative. Anyway, I'm voting for Olvia and I'm going off to bed. If I get eliminated, I honestly which both of you the best of luck. |
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| Gedatsu | Jul 17 2015, 10:00 PM Post #16 |
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Also, just one final story. I also had a better connection with Chouchou then I had with Tashigi when the Big Shakeup happened. I was obviously going to be kicked in the first immunity cballenge we lost, but I wasn't because Chouchou reached out to me and we had/have a decent relation. So why did I did align myself with Tashigi? Because on the long run, I knew that would be my best chance of getting to a to a top spot, while with Chouchou I would always be doomed to get kicked once a certain point of the game was reached. After I kicked him, the fir |
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| Gedatsu | Jul 17 2015, 10:03 PM Post #17 |
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Sorry about that. Tablet. The first thing I did was explain 4 why I had done it and he was cool with it because he understood and agreed on my reasons, even though they obviously weren't good for him. The same happened with Chouchou when he came back and talked to me. I understand the need to keep promises, I also don't enjoy breaking them, but when it's needed to reach a better position in the game, I think everyone understand the position/stance you took at a particular point of the game. Anyway, this is it for me. Again, good luck for bith in case I get out. |
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| Tashigi | Jul 17 2015, 11:05 PM Post #18 |
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I'm voting Olvia too. Hoping it goes through.
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| Nami | Jul 17 2015, 11:35 PM Post #19 |
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Hang on i need to talk to olvia.i havent voted yet |
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| Nami | Jul 17 2015, 11:49 PM Post #20 |
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Thank you guys and i do realize that sticking with you two is the no brainer option. But... I dont know what to do. |
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