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Lumineon; {4th Place}
Topic Started: Feb 17 2016, 07:50:18 PM (220 Views)
Vaporeon
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Our last juror. Sorry to see you here <3
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Lumineon
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ugh what a long way to be dragged around.
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Mawile
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Also sorry to see you here, Lumpy :(
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Wait was there no TC?
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Mawile
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Looks like they deleted the results? I can't find the TC anymore.

Lumi 3
Del 1
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Vaporeon
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THEY TOLD ME IT WAS DOUBELPOSTED.

I'll put it back ><
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Mawile
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For a brief moment I wondered if there was a mistake and Lumi would be brought back into the game. :wub:
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Gosh how many times do you want to eliminate me ani.
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Mawile
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THREE POSTS FOR EVERY VOTE LUMI RECIEVED obv
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Lumineon
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Soooo like I'll start at the f5 to here. It's really hard to know for sure because Zoro couldn't stop lying.

Basically Zoro and Fros decided to work together and they agreed to vote out Ty with the agreement to vote me out this round.

So right when Ty went out I get this PM.

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i will get back to this really sweet pm in a sec. i have to go scream for years. because oh i lied my ass off to dels face. and tys too. so im gonna go scream.


(she never got back to my wall PM about my real life stuff)

Then we had like 2 months of down time with torchwalks and the challenge. None one was really talking except for me and Zoro. We talked all about her real life stuff and kept assuring me she'd never want to get rid of me over Del due to this personal connection we had. To be clear I never asked her to tell me that. She just did it herself.

Del and Fros pretty much avoid talking to me.

Challenge results come out. And I go to zoro and ask her to vote Del like we talked about. She avoids the question and says she needs to wiat for fros. Fros comes on and tells me the truth, they had been planning to vote me since last round. And Zoro asked her not to tell me.

When I go back and confront Zoro she just says she needs to sleep on she isn't sure. (Another lie) Today she gets on and just... like honestly I can't understand. She tries to tell me it was all fros' idea. and that she wanted to tell me but fros asked her not to. Then when I ask her why she unprompted lied to me the whole weekend she changes it to be her idea. Then she tries to tell me why she is voting for me.

Zoro
 
del might have some votes locked in, but a lot of the ones she might have, she has to fight me for

Zoro
 
i really want this. ive worked my ass off through some really hellish periods for this.

Zoro
 
i didnt just spend the last couple hours crying my eyes out because it was something easy


So basically this whole afternoon has been Fros and zoro falling all over themselves trying to "jury manage" me. Zoro trying to tell me how sorry she is and that she really did want to go with me but it was fros' idea. Fros telling me that Zoro is jury managing me and blah blah blah. Pretty much everything they said contradict the others statements. Though Fros at least provided PMs.

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So like flash back to F9 where Del tells me Fros flipped, everyone came clean with me except zoro. She kept trying to tell me she just trying to do right by our alliance :3 i mean literally everyone told me where they were at post vote, she just kept trying to lie. She told me she didn't tell me because she had already sent me a PM so she couldn't send another before I got back to her.
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Here's how I feel about everyone.

Fros: Literally incapable of deciding who to trust. He basically got scared of me and even though I was being totally open about all our plans he just couldn't trust me. Like pre-f9 Fros and I were partners, he agreed to the Pika vote I gave him like 20 opportunities to change the vote and he said no. He's wanted to betray me for the entire merge and it didn't really matter how or when or whether it would work. He kept trying to tell me we were going to the end when he clearly still wanted nothing to do with me. I called him out on his hypocrisy at f7 and he told Dew I was "emotionally manipulating" him.

Being his ally was the most exhausting and demoralizing thing ever. He's totally swallowed Del's strategy of claiming she has no power while being a huge swing vote the whole merge.

Zoro: I don't really think she's had a firm grasp of where everyone stood this game. She tried to convince Maw to vote out Chan as a "move against mama lumi" totally oblivious to the fact Chan was one of the closest people to Mawile. She treated me pretty awful a lot throughout merge. Like telling me that I just got upset if anyone told me something I didn't want to hear and that PMing me was just such a chore. Which Idk seemed like no one else felt that way. All that said, she's had a lot of power ever since Maw left. All the votes involved her. That's really undercut by all these needless lies. Like really personal level lying. Also didn't seem to at all realize how bad Del being in ftc with her was.

I'm probably a little bitter obviously, but nothing else hurt as much as what she did this last round when there was literally no reason to do it. I think she is mistaking lying a bunch with being sneaky and strategic.

Del: As much as I'd like to say something bad about Del I really can't. I don't super love his sorta back seat driving style of game, but it reallly really worked him. He's also super social like I mean wow. Anything you conversation you have and he makes you feel like you are his best friend and you are super special and close. He was NEVER really in danger and the only votes this entire merge he didn't have exactly what he wanted was me idolleding out Pika and Zoro and Fros insisting Ty needed to go before me. Like as long as he tells us he did all this on purpose it's hard for me to see how del made any missteps this merge. Plus he sent me great songs :wub:
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Lumineon
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Oh also, I told zoro this after all her messages about how much she was crying and how sorry she was and basically trying to somehow make me feel guilty she was voting me?

Me to Zoro
 
Don't ask anything out of me Zoro. Stop telling me you are sorry or how much you are crying. Just stand up straight. Say you liked me but you think I'm gonna beat you and then vote me.


She never messaged me back.

Plus that thread she made seemed pretty tasteless?
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When I saw the thread Zoro made, I wrote in my confessional

Mawile
 
Given I don't think anyone is voting for Zoro, her party thread is urgh and in-your-face to whoever is leaving this TC.

It felt like a slap in a face for either you or Del going.

I don't know why Fros or Zoro would go into an F4 with either you or Del. Why in the world would they even risk you winning immunity at F4 given you have won individual immunity more than Ty had at the time?
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ugh okay at least it wasn't just me.

me in my confesh
 
that party thread of theirs makes this all worse. Like what am I supposed to do with that? If zoro felt in danger of going out here, she probably would not have made that.

TC should always be a time of humility and respect. It's not humble of you to be so self-assured you aren't going out. And it isn't respectful to the people who are actually trying to make their case to stay here.




Oh yeah also? part of the reason Fros made the move at f9 was because of some meta reason which really fucking sucks.

Fros @ f9
 
i did this is because i had a very bad and emotionally scarring experience with a very close ally in the last game i played. and you reminded me a lot of them, very sweet and fun, but also making a bunch of allies and telling different people different things. and i got incredibly paranoid that the same thing would happen to me here.


Idk who hurt him but it wasnt me
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So Zoroark was being a serial liar? The TC where Banette was eliminated, him and Banette both said that the other one was responsible for trying to shift the vote to me. Banette was my link partner, but since I couldn't say that, and literally everyone else trusted Zoroark over Banette, I couldn't really press him on it. I doubt I'm going to be voting for him anyway, but if he doesn't come clean about that I'm not even going to consider it.
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Fros's game is bad Lum, don't feel bad about it. Like I dont really know what to say beyond that but I got my impressions of everyone at F9 and it was basically, Lum = badass and Fros = untrustworthy and sloppy

Whatever way she is trying to rationalize it is I believe insincere. She wanted to make a move on you so she didn't seem like a floater at FTC. She told me so. She made a bad move
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I think Zor's double dealing with Maw and me was incredibly sloppy and excessive, he was trying to play both sides while lying about it when it was so obvious he was. He didn't need to lie about it
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Lumi wants to be allies with EVERYONE and it's scaring me. and most of it is with Maw. there's her/me/Maw/Chan, her/me/Maw/Zoro, and of course there's the little assumed thing you and me have with those two. this is all stuff Lumi wants to do. and i'm hearing Lumi and Chan are getting close to Delphox too like i said. and who knows what else she's doing. basically i'm a little scared Lumi is going too crazy with working with a bunch of people.

i can't help but feel like we're at the bottom of everything Froggy :(

I don't know if this actually provides any new information, but this is what he was thinking with regards to Lumineon at F10. I responded saying that I'd keep my eye on you, but aside from that, I was too concerned with what I wanted to be doing with my idol to focus on that discussion thread.
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Gren, yeah Zoro wanted you out bad. But none of us were having.

Zoro was soooooo obvious in what she was doing. like I knew she was going around me cuz maw was sending me the PMs. But like??? Nope had to keep lying.

Basically I feel like Zoro was trying to overplay every round for no reason and thought she was being clever about it. The fact she was still lying to me AFTER the chan vote and everyone had told me whats up says she has no idea where anyone stood.

I think Pika is probably right Fros was saying w/e made sense at the moment to justify her move against me. It didn't make any sense, we talked about everyone having too many friends and everyone was being friendly with us on the surface but I told fros I didn't trust a lot of those friendships and I specifically said we needed a vote not dew to actually test to see who was with us.

There was never any Fros in our relationship once merge started. I was always like "what do you want to do, who do you trust" and nothing. I was an idiot to not realize he was trying to betray me. It was just like..... f9.... with pikachu.... why....
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welcome home finny. I wish we coulda helped you win, sorry 8(
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This changes things.

Sorry to see you here, pre FTC I thought you played the best but I guess they still got you.
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