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Zilean
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Jul 28 2016, 04:52:17 PM
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Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana~
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If Liss is who I think he is, I doubt he really impacted all that much with your vote really. But it's all hearsay till we see confessionals.
Lying low is still playing the game. Keeping the target off your back is key when playing a UTR game. Making moves kind of defeats the purpose
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Nocturne
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Jul 28 2016, 04:54:20 PM
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Your best nightmare
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It's a very Michelle vs Aubry argument and so far Michelle has been winning a lot more Survivors!
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Zilean
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Jul 28 2016, 05:00:11 PM
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Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana~
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Never forget the social game!
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Nocturne
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Jul 28 2016, 05:19:01 PM
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Your best nightmare
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It's not like Lulu is some social pariah though, she ain't no Gnar. She was effectively the alternate people thought would win next to Malphite. Not by the outsiders but by the people in the game. It really brings into question what people perceive as a jury threat vs what people actually vote for.
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Nautilus
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Jul 28 2016, 11:51:34 PM
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A lot of people liked Lulu when I was in. Her turning paranoid Malph into being loyal to her and voting her way so she could save her idol on Dems is a testament to that social game. Everyone knowing she had an idol while also thinking she was one of the biggest threats to win and having her not being eliminated in a blindside is a testament to that also.
Looking at it all, I don't think Shaco played this terrific UTR game by any means, but he also wasn't the limp player everyone wanted him to be either, and part of that looks to be to his own doing at least during merge. At the very least, he has to have enough game awareness in order to make that argument for himself. I don't think we need to mold Shaco's game into being something grand in order to validate his game play here.
Regardless, I don't think people are going to come out of this game exclaiming OH EM GEE WINNER X PLAYED SOOOO WELL. These juror votes are all about emotion.
Edit: I love editing
Edited by Nautilus, Jul 29 2016, 12:03:03 AM.
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Nautilus
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Jul 29 2016, 12:10:22 AM
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I'm fine with anyone winning here. All the best gooey game stuff happens in mid to late merge and I wasn't there to have an emotional investment in it all.
If Shaco wins though, it would definitely be interesting to see if it changes anyone's approach to so-called goats.
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Zilean
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Jul 29 2016, 12:22:16 AM
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Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana~
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+1, especially after the newbie guide mentioned how final 3s always have a goat. Anything that shifts how people think is good
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Shen
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Jul 29 2016, 12:25:13 AM
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TBH, I agree with Zilean.
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Nautilus
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Jul 29 2016, 01:19:11 AM
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There's something magical about players thinking it was unfathomable to vote out the 'goat' at F4 to then see that same perceived goat win, isn't there?
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Nautilus
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Jul 29 2016, 05:42:05 PM
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Nocturne has got to be sitting here being all, "uh Shaco was loyal?" 
Idk how Malph can't wrap himself around the idea of people wanting to take him out when he thought he would have won the game if he survived the last vote.
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