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Challenge 2 Discussion
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Topic Started: Jun 21 2016, 07:14:53 PM (636 Views)
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Nautilus
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Jun 21 2016, 07:14:53 PM
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I copied the challenge post here:
Challenge Post 
"Let's talk about me for a minute" - Draven
Congratulations! You've passed your first tutorial, now it's time for a second! This time we're going to be a bit more focused on champions, so stay sharp!
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The mods have chosen three League of Legends Champions. You will be asking "Yes" or "No" questions to try to figure out who we chose. The tribe that does this using the fewest questions will win immunity.
You are allowed to use outside sources for this challenge. Please arrange a time which works for your tribe for one of the mods to run this challenge. Only 5 people can participate in this challenge from each tribe.
All of the questions must specifically be designated for 0, at least 1, exactly 1, at least 2, exactly 2, or all 3 of the champions. You are NOT allowed to ask compound questions. For example, you can ask "Is at least one champion female?" but you are not allowed to ask "Is at leash one champion a female that shoots a ranged weapon?"
Before beginning the game, each tribe must submit a number. That number will be their guess as to the total number of questions asked by all tribes. (If a contestant is not guessed, they score the maximum of 150 additional questions) In the event of a tie, the tribe that guessed closest without going over will win immunity.
This challenge will be performed in a topic in your Tribal forum. When you are ready to begin, please make an appropriate topic there. You have 24 hours.
Resources
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions
Sounds like it doesn't matter TOO much which five of us do the challenge as long as we have a solid strategy. people will more league knowledge and good at strategy would probably be most helpful.
Edited by Nautilus, Jun 21 2016, 07:32:30 PM.
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Teemo
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Jun 21 2016, 07:15:57 PM
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Scouty McScoutface
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I'll put myself down as an alternate. I don't think this challenge matches up with my skill set well but if we need a 5th body I'll do the best that I can to be helpful.
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Amumu
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Jun 21 2016, 07:18:19 PM
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I'm going to start making a database of sorts so it'll be easier to narrow down suspects once we start asking questions and know what type of questions to ask. Just so I can work on something rather than sitting here waiting. I don't have any bright ideas for question-asking yet. I'll think about it while I start a database :S.
If anyone know of any easy way to get data for a Champion database let me know - just data we can use to ask various distinguishing questions.
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Nautilus
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Jun 21 2016, 07:21:17 PM
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usually guess who is about narrowing down the heroes as efficiently as possible. Finding three champions presumably at the same time is an interesting twist though
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Lulu
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Jun 21 2016, 07:25:01 PM
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First thought: we could narrow this down using the alphabet? "Does at least one champion's name start with the letter A?" etc. Obviously that question wouldn't be so efficient but we could use alphabetical order to ask about a certain number of champions
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Amumu
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Jun 21 2016, 07:26:02 PM
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http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions - wooo this will make things easier!
I have a vague idea of selecting a question that applies to 1/5 or 1/6 of the characters... and ask if 1 of them is X. If yes we narrowed one die to 1/6 of the group, if no, we just eliminated 1/6 of the group from being one of the suspects. Eliminating suspects will be very useful
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Lulu
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Jun 21 2016, 07:28:59 PM
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There are 131 champions by my count 131/6 = 21 and five sixths
We could split them into groups of 22?
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Lulu
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Jun 21 2016, 07:31:31 PM
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Aatrox-Draven Ekko-Jhin Jinx-Master Yi Miss Fortune-Sejuani Shaco-Twitch Udyr-Zyra
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Lulu
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Jun 21 2016, 07:34:53 PM
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If we wanted to bet on three champions that won't be ones we're looking for, we could search in four groups of 32 with three left over. Once we find that a champion is in one of the groups, we could split the group evenly each time until we find the champion.
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Amumu
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Jun 21 2016, 07:40:06 PM
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- Jun 21 2016, 07:34:53 PM
If we wanted to bet on three champions that won't be ones we're looking for, we could search in four groups of 32 with three left over. Once we find that a champion is in one of the groups, we could split the group evenly each time until we find the champion. I don't like the idea of taking a bet, we could lose the whole thing if it is one of those three. Plus we want more than 4 groups, if we have 4 groups we'll likely get yes to 2 or 3 groups and we won't be narrowing down as many people with the same number of questions. I think we'll at least want to include the three into one of the groups.
If we do get it narrowed down to three distinct groups of 32 - I think we'll somehow be able to use the "are 2 of them X" and ask several of those questions to narrow it down with less questions than if we just simply did "is 1 X" and narrowed it by half each time.
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