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Topic Started: Jun 21 2016, 07:14:53 PM (643 Views)
Nautilus
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I copied the challenge post here:

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http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions


Sounds like it doesn't matter TOO much which five of us do the challenge as long as we have a solid strategy. people will more league knowledge and good at strategy would probably be most helpful.
Edited by Nautilus, Jun 21 2016, 07:32:30 PM.
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Dr. Mundo
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MUNDO VERY CLEAVER
MUNDO MIGHT NOT BE SO GOOD AT THIS COMP

HAS LOTS OF LEAGUE KNOWLEDGE BUT BAD AT QUESTION ASKING
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Lulu
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I got min as 16 and max as 20 with Strategy 2. I can try to type out an explanation if anyone would like one.
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Lulu
Jun 21 2016, 08:58:49 PM
I got min as 16 and max as 20 with Strategy 2. I can try to type out an explanation if anyone would like one.
I would like one to make sure we're counting the same.
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Lulu
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I'm writing one, it might take a while
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Lulu
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nerd stuff
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Lulu
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in case it wasn't clear ^ that is my work Amumu
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Lulu
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also worth mentioning is that the average result for this, if we were dealing with true 50/50 cuts each time (which we can't do), would be just barely over 16 questions. so we should be aiming for something around that.
Edited by Lulu, Jun 21 2016, 10:08:39 PM.
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Amumu
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I think any way you cut it the minimum for any method is going to be 18.

Start by cutting down the smallest group, 27
Question 4: "Is at least one champion between the word 'the' and the word 'via' in alphabetical order?" (separates first 13 from last 14)
Answer: YES

That eliminates the last 14 from EVERY group, leaving us with the following information:

I don't think this is correct. 1, 2, or 3 could be in this group, not just 1 person. And 1 or 2 could be in the other half. This question doesn't eliminate who suspect #2 or #3 are and shouldn't make their group smaller.

Also I think getting YES instead of all NO's at the beginning will increase the max #'s, because we're getting an answer to a question but not narrowing things down too much. Your third question assumes we'll eliminate half the contestants in one question - I don't think that will be likely.

If you want to do a practice round I can pick three random people and you can spitfire questions at me to see how well it works? But I think most strategies will have roughly the same stats as long as we're asking the right questions and I think the initial strategy is the most straight forward way to make sure we're asking the right questions and not overlooking anything.
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Lulu
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...true. Then, ignoring the shortcut where you can cut things from every group, that changes the min from 14 to 18. You're right. Though, getting all YES at the beginning actually makes the min 16 if you round everything to the nearest whole number.

Explain how the first strategy's mins and maxes work?
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I'm just here right now in awe of you wonderful Yordles making mathemagic happen
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