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Topic Started: Jun 21 2016, 07:14:53 PM (642 Views)
Nautilus
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I copied the challenge post here:

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http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_champions


Sounds like it doesn't matter TOO much which five of us do the challenge as long as we have a solid strategy. people will more league knowledge and good at strategy would probably be most helpful.
Edited by Nautilus, Jun 21 2016, 07:32:30 PM.
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Amumu
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Is X in this group of 32? Yes
This group of 16? (Yes/No)
This group of 8? (Yes/No)
This group of 4? (Yes/No)
This group of 2? (Yes/No)
This 1? (Yes/No) ... if No we spend another question askin

Min of 18 because if we find the correct groups of 32 at each starting point we'll get 18 total questions. When it's down to 2 people there's a 50% chance each time we'll pick the wrong one, so a maximum of 3 questions gets added for that. If they aren't seperated into the 4 groups specificed at the beginning (aka 2 are in the first group of 32, etc.) we'll waste a maximum of 3 questions finding out that they're not in any of those other groups.

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I'm open to doing a test run of your theory. The first 3 answers of randomly selected champions would be: No, No, Yes. I'm concerned this method has a higher maximum and potentially could be harder for everyone to follow than the straightforward 50/50 questions.
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Amumu
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Also side note, it's important that once we do start we don't rush to ask questions. We should designate one person to ask all questions when we start and pause between each question in case someone comes up with a genius idea on the spot and/or so we don't ask a question we can already deduce. Just throwing that out there!
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To clarify, 18 + 3 for if we get wrong when we're down to 2, + 3 at most if the 3 are not separated as 1-1-1-0 in the initial 4 groups.

EDIT: Is where I got the 21-24 from.
Edited by Amumu, Jun 21 2016, 10:31:13 PM.
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Lulu
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My main concern is the potential waste in questions when more than one of the champions are in the same group of 32. What are the chances of that happening, or is there any way to tell? I feel as though we can make that more optimal.
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Wait, why do we have to waste a question when there are two left? Won't we spend the same amount of questions regardless? If we know that, out of two, one of them is wrong, we don't have to confirm the other is right. So the only time that would apply would be on the last group of 32, if we want to just guess 50/50 on the last group of two.
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Lulu
Jun 21 2016, 10:32:48 PM
My main concern is the potential waste in questions when more than one of the champions are in the same group of 32. What are the chances of that happening, or is there any way to tell? I feel as though we can make that more optimal.
I'm sure there is, it'd depend on a combination as to whether once we find one suspect, if we've eliminated any suspects (we can only eliminate if we ask if one character in a group and get a no, if we get a Yes, we can't eliminate either side of the "50%").
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Lulu
Jun 21 2016, 10:36:00 PM
Wait, why do we have to waste a question when there are two left? Won't we spend the same amount of questions regardless? If we know that, out of two, one of them is wrong, we don't have to confirm the other is right. So the only time that would apply would be on the last group of 32, if we want to just guess 50/50 on the last group of two.
We do unfortunately. At least that's my understanding from what I've asked the mod. We have to use a question to identify one of the three characters.

MODS - Can we use a question to identify MULTIPLE characters in one question?

Example:
Are 2 of the characters listed below?
Character A
Character B

And if they're right that counts as us identifying two of them?
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Lulu
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Oh, so we win by identifying each champion individually, not by identifying them as a group?
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Dr. Mundo
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MUNDO VERY CLEAVER
THIS ALL GOING WAY OVER MUNDO HEAD
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Amumu
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Mod told me (just now after confirming again) individual question for identifying each character - it will affect either strategy the same way though really.
Edited by Amumu, Jun 21 2016, 10:46:13 PM.
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