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| Episode 14 nuclear whispers A; Penner/Julia | |
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| Topic Started: May 30 2017, 09:26:43 AM (286 Views) | |
| Lucy | May 30 2017, 09:26:43 AM Post #1 |
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TC has now been extended 12 extra hours. Feel free to chat during that time. All deadlines reset. |
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| Julia | May 30 2017, 05:15:29 PM Post #31 |
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Yeah we can't tell Cyd at all. You are right. It's against my nature but she is way too crafty!!!! |
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| Penner | May 30 2017, 05:16:05 PM Post #32 |
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I agree 100% Julia! We have saved John (against Sundra) and Cydney (against Jaclyn) and T Bird (against Tasha) all before, it's time we get to focus on ourselves! Also with Frosti, we have a solid 3 majority and can get T and John out next. This is our clearest path to the end, just sucks that we have to lie about it to acts who I do genuinely believe likes us. But st the end of the day she is playin her own, very great game and I believe she'd take John to the end over us easily. So what do you want to do about letting her know? I'd be down to even just write out my goodbye/apology and paste it into the whisper thread with her like 15 minutes before Tribal is over? Maybe 10 minutes lol |
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| Penner | May 30 2017, 05:17:09 PM Post #33 |
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Man for some reason Cyd autocorrects to acts on my phone, very obnoxious haha |
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| Julia | May 30 2017, 05:31:04 PM Post #34 |
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T-Bird kinda poured her heart out to me yesterday and said that she has tried and tried to make connections in the game but that everyone keeps turning on her. The more I thought about this, the more I realized she was right. She has been scrappy as hell to get to this point but it's because she had to be. Because of the fateful plane incident, I was the only one who was outed for wanting her out. That's when she shifted her focus on me and I kept being told by people like Frosti that T-Bird was the next to go. I operated under that thought and was trying to make it happen, but no one else went for it when push came to shove. Once again, this pinned me as the only one trying to get her out. She told me that she was willing to make a deal with me. Originally, we said that we would each spare the other until F4 and she wanted Frosti there and I wanted you there. We were going to leave it at that and just see where the cards fell, but she took it a step further and said she would be willing to make it F3 with you and me. I know she's persuasive and tricky, but she really put it all out there and said that she just wants someone to actually make a plan with her and stick to it. I said if she would agree to you, me, and her for F3 that it sounded good to me. You are my #1 in this game. What do you think about this? Honestly, Frosti and T-Bird are both big threats but I think that Frosti is the bigger threat just because he's so well liked. The 4 of us have each played really great games but I think if you and I made it to F3 then we will both move to F2. We just HAVE to win that last immunity challenge otherwise she will get to decide. This is a decision I want to make with you but I also want you to know that I have done everything in my power to keep you safe this game and I know you've done the same for me. I would never dream of taking T-Bird to F2 over you if I won immunity!! I just want you to know what was talked about so that we can make a plan together for moving forward.
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| Julia | May 30 2017, 05:31:28 PM Post #35 |
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When it comes to Cyd, I think we will have to wait until the very last minute for our apologies hahaha |
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| Penner | May 30 2017, 05:32:01 PM Post #36 |
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I think I'm gonna write out something to Cyd explaining that we couldn't tell her bc she is such a good player and this was the only chance we had to win. I'm going to use "I" a lot so it seems like my own decision and you probably should too? I think we can get some good jury management on this and salvage a relationship with her by complimenting her and saying that this sucks and it's a difficult decision (which it honestly is) but there were no other options! I think I'm gonna post that in the nuclear thread when there's like 2 minutes left before the vote is revealed |
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| Julia | May 30 2017, 05:39:04 PM Post #37 |
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What do you think about the T-Bird deal? Yeah I think that's a good plan for both of us for sure!! We definitely don't want her to be on the jury for a long time without hearing why we did what we did. Definitely will change the game if she goes the revenge route!!! She could be a very influential jury member and we definitely want her rooting for us haha |
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| Penner | May 30 2017, 05:41:28 PM Post #38 |
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Oh wow that's really interesting that T Bird had a real moment with you. Listen, I've always liked T Bird. I'm being honest in tribal forums when I say I want to work with her, yet she just kept throwing you and I under the bus. I still don't really have ill will towards her, but I personally think she's a huge threat to win the game. Frosti is likable but that is his only pro. Taking him to F3 would probably help us more because I think T Bird actually has a lot of good will on the jury (Clarence, Eddie, Cydney potentially if she hates us lol). But, T has the resume to back it up as well. Everyone loves an underdog and that has been her MO since the beginning. If she makes it to F3, beats us, no matter who she chooses we will lose. She is scrappy, outspoken, has won immunities, and somehow controlled a few votes even from the bottom. She is everything a jury is looking for in a winner. Whereas if we bring Frosti to F3, he relied on an idol, didn't really make any moves, and didn't defend or help his allies when they needed him most. He shied away from conflict and is the only person I really still see as a "low threat type" character in the game. He also trusts you and I immensely. He wants me in his F3 bc he thinks I'm one the only people he can beat. He also said he trusts you the most in the game so I think we'd all have an equal, exciting chance to win the whole thing! At the end of the day, if the final decision is on me I am taking you to the end. We have been solid for forever and I would genuinely want nothing less than to go head to head with you at the end and see who the jury ultimately chooses. I can think of no more fun Final Tribal than us 2 going at it but with a respectable admiration for each other! |
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| Penner | May 30 2017, 05:44:11 PM Post #39 |
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Regardless, I think both of them are great for our F4 |
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| Julia | May 30 2017, 05:51:16 PM Post #40 |
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I agree with you on so many levels!!! Gah it's such a hard call. I don't know what the jury will appreciate more: T-Bird being an underdog and throwing everyone under the bus or how we both fought until the bitter end for our allies. You are right about Frosti. He was never bold enough to decide a vote and he definitely hasn't made any big moves. However, being a captain and having an idol are both really huge bonuses IMO. T-Bird can convince anyone of anything. My question is whether or not having her on the jury or going against her (should she win immunity and choose me to go with her) in FTC is better. She could have a lot of say on the jury and I just don't know how that would work for either of us should we make it to the end with her, you know? I'm just so bummed that none of us won immunity over her. It makes me wonder how much stamina she actually has if she was able to win immunity twice in a row while also winning the medical visit.... |
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