Letter to Baba

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Letter to Baba
Topic Started: Aug 15 2008, 05:44 PM (448 Views)
Hypedupturtle	Aug 15 2008, 05:44 PM Post #1
The British Dude Posts: 5,437 Group: Member Member #45 Joined: December 6, 2007	I just sent this to Baba. I admit, it is meant to be a guilt trip. I hope it will suffice...: I am very disappointed. I started writing this angrily, but that wont solve anything. What you've done is done and there's not likely to be going back. I don't want to hear excuses - it's too late for that now. I have read your comments in the GS TESFU article. However, the actions you took were unnecessary and foolish and I don't believe any action warranted what you did under any circumstances. I'm sorry - I had planned for you so much. Now, you've lost that, along with the friendship I was more than willing to offer. I'm also sorry for what I have lost. You are no longer the great moderater you were to me. You are no longer the great friend you were to me. Now, all I have and all you have, are the memories of the great times we shared together. Maybe in a few years, we shall think about lifting your ban. We shall see what time presents. As for the moment, you are banned and that ban will stand. I will be happy to stay in contact, but know this - the scras you have caused to me and worse, to TESFU and yourself will never heal. They will always show and you must now bear what they display. Those scars have marked something very good. Eventually, they may stretch and thin, but for the moment, they stand out more than ever and they spoil what you and I once shared. Maybe once they stretch and begin to fade, we will feel more confortable in each others company again, almost like we did when you were a trusted member. Almost, never quite - those scars will never disappear. No surgery can replace them. Nothing you can do will make them go away. You are marked... I wish you the best in the rest of your life. I am willing to talk with you if you wish. Bear in mind what you have done and try to learn from it - learn anything positive you can and I hope you enjoyed the time you spent with us. I enjoyed it - until you wrought those scars. The ice between you and me and you and TESFU will never fully melt. You must live with that. I must live with that. TESFU must live with that. Best of luck, Hypedupturtle.



Unpleasant_Assailant	Aug 15 2008, 05:55 PM Post #2
Chief Global Moderator Posts: 4,704 Group: Global Moderator Member #194 Joined: January 12, 2008	While it was nice, there is one part that I don't agree with, and that's the possibility of unbanning. Not that I'm all out hate on Baba right now (nor that I have a friendship with him anymore) but even suggesting an unban is not a good thing in my mind.



Hypedupturtle	Aug 15 2008, 06:00 PM Post #3
The British Dude Posts: 5,437 Group: Member Member #45 Joined: December 6, 2007	yes you're possibly right - I hold my hands up, but I did think about that while writing it, which is why I included the maybe, which is just a way of letting us do whatever we want, based on how we feel at the time. It's my way of putting across a statement without binding myself to it, essentially allowing me to do whatever I want despite what I say.



Unpleasant_Assailant	Aug 15 2008, 06:00 PM Post #4
Chief Global Moderator Posts: 4,704 Group: Global Moderator Member #194 Joined: January 12, 2008	Okay. I understand.



Hypedupturtle	Aug 15 2008, 06:04 PM Post #5
The British Dude Posts: 5,437 Group: Member Member #45 Joined: December 6, 2007	Unpleasant_Assailant Aug 15 2008, 06:00 PM Okay. I understand. Method in my madness



redsrock	Aug 15 2008, 06:51 PM Post #6
Jefe el Heffalump Posts: 15,129 Group: Admin Member #54 Joined: December 8, 2007	Nice letter, very emotional. But like Weezy said, I wouldn't even give the guy false hope.



ninja_lord666	Aug 15 2008, 07:02 PM Post #7
Level 21 Wizard Posts: 1,143 Group: Member Member #235 Joined: February 5, 2008	Now it may just be me, but does it really matter? I think he's made it quite clear that he doesn't like it here. He doesn't want to come back. As it stands, I thought the banning was in itself just a mere formality. I'm betting that even if we unban him this very minute, he's not going to care. He's not coming back by his own accord. I'm sure that when he reads over that he'll just laugh and say something like, "Ha, like I'd really ever return." Baba strikes me as the kind of person who stands by his convictions out of sheer stubbornness. Whether or not we say that there's a chance he'll return is completely irrelevant. He won't have hope of return, false or otherwise. Besides, even if he wanted to come back, he knows that he never will, no matter what the letter says. If we are so adamant about never letting modman return after he just lied and stole a couple times, then why would we ever let Baba return after he tried to destroy the entire forum?



Unpleasant_Assailant	Aug 15 2008, 07:12 PM Post #8
Chief Global Moderator Posts: 4,704 Group: Global Moderator Member #194 Joined: January 12, 2008	ninja_lord666 Aug 15 2008, 07:02 PM Now it may just be me, but does it really matter? I think he's made it quite clear that he doesn't like it here. He doesn't want to come back. As it stands, I thought the banning was in itself just a mere formality. I'm betting that even if we unban him this very minute, he's not going to care. He's not coming back by his own accord. I'm sure that when he reads over that he'll just laugh and say something like, "Ha, like I'd really ever return." Baba strikes me as the kind of person who stands by his convictions out of sheer stubbornness. Whether or not we say that there's a chance he'll return is completely irrelevant. He won't have hope of return, false or otherwise. Besides, even if he wanted to come back, he knows that he never will, no matter what the letter says. If we are so adamant about never letting modman return after he just lied and stole a couple times, then why would we ever let Baba return after he tried to destroy the entire forum? Good point Ninja.



milk_is_white	Aug 15 2008, 07:21 PM Post #9
The Milkman Posts: 4,640 Group: Member Member #41 Joined: December 5, 2007	According to what he said at GS, that's not true, though I think he realizes there's no way hes going to be able to come back.
	I have 20600.0000000001 KP


Unpleasant_Assailant	Aug 15 2008, 07:24 PM Post #10
Chief Global Moderator Posts: 4,704 Group: Global Moderator Member #194 Joined: January 12, 2008	milk_is_white Aug 15 2008, 07:21 PM According to what he said at GS, that's not true, though I think he realizes there's no way hes going to be able to come back. Yes, he did claim to be sorry for his actions....



Julian	Aug 15 2008, 07:30 PM Post #11
2nd TESFU Leader Posts: 4,382 Group: Member Member #8 Joined: December 3, 2007	Can someone give me a link to where he said that?
	My union.


milk_is_white	Aug 15 2008, 07:31 PM Post #12
The Milkman Posts: 4,640 Group: Member Member #41 Joined: December 5, 2007	http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/unions/read_article.php?topic_id=26542772&union_id=11961
	I have 20600.0000000001 KP


Hypedupturtle	Aug 16 2008, 07:54 AM Post #13
The British Dude Posts: 5,437 Group: Member Member #45 Joined: December 6, 2007	redsrock Aug 15 2008, 06:51 PM very emotional. Guilt trip material. And good points ninja...



Christo_2992	Aug 16 2008, 08:35 AM Post #14
happy dance YAYAY Posts: 4,013 Group: Member Member #100 Joined: December 15, 2007	Wauw...almost sounds like a story or even a poem!!
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Scythe	Aug 16 2008, 10:51 AM Post #15
Slaughterfish Posts: 129 Group: Member Member #415 Joined: June 7, 2008	er, Quote: Trust - so hard to gain, so easy to lose.



Hypedupturtle	Aug 16 2008, 11:55 AM Post #16
The British Dude Posts: 5,437 Group: Member Member #45 Joined: December 6, 2007	Scythe Aug 16 2008, 10:51 AM er, Quote: Trust - so hard to gain, so easy to lose. Ye, I know - I gave Modman something similar when he was banned.



lettuceman44	Aug 16 2008, 01:35 PM Post #17
Emperor Posts: 7,099 Group: Admin Member #5 Joined: December 3, 2007	ninja_lord666 Aug 15 2008, 07:02 PM Now it may just be me, but does it really matter? I think he's made it quite clear that he doesn't like it here. He doesn't want to come back. As it stands, I thought the banning was in itself just a mere formality. I'm betting that even if we unban him this very minute, he's not going to care. He's not coming back by his own accord. I'm sure that when he reads over that he'll just laugh and say something like, "Ha, like I'd really ever return." Baba strikes me as the kind of person who stands by his convictions out of sheer stubbornness. Whether or not we say that there's a chance he'll return is completely irrelevant. He won't have hope of return, false or otherwise. Besides, even if he wanted to come back, he knows that he never will, no matter what the letter says. If we are so adamant about never letting modman return after he just lied and stole a couple times, then why would we ever let Baba return after he tried to destroy the entire forum? Exactly. If we don't modman come back for petty things compared to what Baba then, then Baba is never coming back.



chris 07	Aug 16 2008, 09:31 PM Post #18
Minotaur Posts: 1,072 Group: Member Member #204 Joined: January 14, 2008	Never saw this coming, was too busy to visit TESFU the past week or two so i apologize for not, but this is sad news, i always saw Baba as some kind of patriot to this site. He did get too mad at ninja at times tho. Even more so than me lol.



aceball69	Aug 17 2008, 03:52 PM Post #19
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	ninja_lord666 Aug 15 2008, 07:02 PM Now it may just be me, but does it really matter? I think he's made it quite clear that he doesn't like it here. He doesn't want to come back. As it stands, I thought the banning was in itself just a mere formality. I'm betting that even if we unban him this very minute, he's not going to care. He's not coming back by his own accord. I'm sure that when he reads over that he'll just laugh and say something like, "Ha, like I'd really ever return." Baba strikes me as the kind of person who stands by his convictions out of sheer stubbornness. Whether or not we say that there's a chance he'll return is completely irrelevant. He won't have hope of return, false or otherwise. Besides, even if he wanted to come back, he knows that he never will, no matter what the letter says. If we are so adamant about never letting modman return after he just lied and stole a couple times, then why would we ever let Baba return after he tried to destroy the entire forum? exactly... hes not coming back. first of all, like ninja said, he did what he did for a reason. second, in a couple years, he will have lost all interest in forums (most likely...). third, even if he did come back, there would always be a vibe of dislike, mistrust (is that even a word?), and a feeling of self regret, in which case hed get sick of it anyways and leave...
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vanir90210	Aug 18 2008, 02:19 PM Post #20
Budding Lyricist Posts: 2,792 Group: Member Member #394 Joined: May 19, 2008	aceball69 Aug 17 2008, 03:52 PM ...mistrust (is that even a word?)... I think you want distrust.
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