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Scripting Questions...?; my brain hurts
Topic Started: Sep 2 2009, 02:19 PM (152 Views)
aceball69	Sep 2 2009, 02:19 PM Post #1
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	K so im reading up on "scripting for dummies" and i feel like a bigger dummy for not understanding half of what this guy is saying... so i have some questions i hope you can answer... Variables... example: Begin my_first_script Short controlvar If ( OnActivate == 1 ) If ( controlvar == 0) MessageBox "Voiceless it cries, wingless flutters, toothless bites, mouthless mutters. What is it?", "Bat", "Old woman", "Wind", "Wraith" Set controlvar to 1 endif endif End I get that this message box will ask me the question and give me four answers but im confuesd abou what this other stuff means. Like, == 0 and == 1 ... what do these numbers mean? and controlvar?
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lettuceman44	Sep 2 2009, 03:12 PM Post #2
Emperor Posts: 7,099 Group: Admin Member #5 Joined: December 3, 2007	Alright, you gotta start from the beginning In coding: 0 = false 1 = true controlvar is a variable Code: `Begin my_first_script Short controlvar If ( OnActivate == 1 ) If ( controlvar == 0) MessageBox "Voiceless it cries, wingless flutters, toothless bites, mouthless mutters. What is it?", "Bat", "Old woman", "Wind", "Wraith" Set controlvar to 1 endif endif End` Code: `Begin my_first_script Short controlvar` Ok, the first line is the name of your script. Scripts must always begin with "Begin (name)". Also don't use spaces, use underscores. The second thing is declaring a variable. A variable is something that changes. You declare a variable by saying short(or another command which I won't get into here yet) and then variable name. Code: `If ( OnActivate == 1 ) If ( controlvar == 0) MessageBox "Voiceless it cries, wingless flutters, toothless bites, mouthless mutters. What is it?", "Bat", "Old woman", "Wind", "Wraith" Set controlvar to 1` Alright this next part is where all the things happen. The like If ( OnActivate == 1) checks to see if the object the script is attached to has been activated. If it hasn't it = 0 and nothing happens. If it has, then it = 1 and the things underneath run. If ( controlvar == 0 ) is next. If it = 0, it runs, if it equals anything else the rest of the code doesn't. So if the above conditions are true, then the messageboxes appear, and then the variable controlvar is set to 1, so the code can't run again.



aceball69	Sep 2 2009, 04:07 PM Post #3
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	oh wow why could the guy who wrote the dang thing explain it like that? k now that i understand that im going back to the tutorial. im sure ill have more questions! thanks dude
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aceball69	Sep 2 2009, 04:52 PM Post #4
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	snip nevermind, the dude who wrote the tutorial screwed up on purpose facepalm this is so frustrating. i just dont know... is there a list of commands i can look at to get a better understanding of what this all means? really i just dont get "else", "elseif", why you put "short" before words like controlvar or button, and am still a little confused about the variables. maybe someone could explain this? and i need a test script... something i can try to do then maybe you could see if its right? Edited by aceball69, Sep 2 2009, 05:47 PM.
	"This might just feed the mother of all our needs" Tri-shards of Weye- My first mod's unoficial WIP thread. check it out! Best Oblivion Mod Ive ever stumbled across- Deadly Reflexes 5 How Cyrodiil SHOULD have been designed- Unique Landscapes


lettuceman44	Sep 2 2009, 06:42 PM Post #5
Emperor Posts: 7,099 Group: Admin Member #5 Joined: December 3, 2007	Just read the guide in order. It explains everything. Your using version 9 right?



aceball69	Sep 2 2009, 06:45 PM Post #6
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	well it says 5th edition...? not sure what version. the one i have just pretty much throws me out in the deep end and expects me to swim
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lettuceman44	Sep 2 2009, 06:47 PM Post #7
Emperor Posts: 7,099 Group: Admin Member #5 Joined: December 3, 2007	Thats old....lol. http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?id=6083&view=Mods.Detail



aceball69	Sep 2 2009, 06:51 PM Post #8
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	oh! derrr... cool thanks ill read it through, but it looks pretty much the same so far
	"This might just feed the mother of all our needs" Tri-shards of Weye- My first mod's unoficial WIP thread. check it out! Best Oblivion Mod Ive ever stumbled across- Deadly Reflexes 5 How Cyrodiil SHOULD have been designed- Unique Landscapes


lettuceman44	Sep 2 2009, 06:52 PM Post #9
Emperor Posts: 7,099 Group: Admin Member #5 Joined: December 3, 2007	Its quite different I assure you



aceball69	Sep 2 2009, 07:20 PM Post #10
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	ya you're right, i read through the tutorial and it was different. Im still pretty confused though but i guess i just have to keep practicing. but how do i practice when i dont know what to do? shrug
	"This might just feed the mother of all our needs" Tri-shards of Weye- My first mod's unoficial WIP thread. check it out! Best Oblivion Mod Ive ever stumbled across- Deadly Reflexes 5 How Cyrodiil SHOULD have been designed- Unique Landscapes


Unpleasant_Assailant	Sep 2 2009, 07:27 PM Post #11
Chief Global Moderator Posts: 4,704 Group: Global Moderator Member #194 Joined: January 12, 2008	Maybe you just aren't scripting material.... No just kidding. Keep going through the tutorial.... Also, look at premade scripts from other events in the game and see how they work. Disect each line of code and see what the guide says those tags and stuff do.



vanir90210	Sep 2 2009, 07:44 PM Post #12
Budding Lyricist Posts: 2,792 Group: Member Member #394 Joined: May 19, 2008	Here's something you can try to do. Check to see if the character's strength is 100 or higher when activating a certain object, and if so, play a message and add a sword to the player's inventory.
	Spoiler: click to toggle "I look at the eyes, straight to the soul doorway" Redsrock Dammit, Vanir...... I had an awesome daydream of me and Anne Hathaway on a private island. And then in the daydream you came in and murdered her, then asking for my hand in marriage.


aceball69	Sep 2 2009, 08:02 PM Post #13
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	thanks U_A, good idea. Vanir, thanks for the challenge, ill see what i can do ill post back when i think im done then maybe you can check it. oh and just to make sure, if i save a script thats not complete or is just for fun will it mess my game up? Edited by aceball69, Sep 2 2009, 08:05 PM.
	"This might just feed the mother of all our needs" Tri-shards of Weye- My first mod's unoficial WIP thread. check it out! Best Oblivion Mod Ive ever stumbled across- Deadly Reflexes 5 How Cyrodiil SHOULD have been designed- Unique Landscapes


vanir90210	Sep 2 2009, 08:11 PM Post #14
Budding Lyricist Posts: 2,792 Group: Member Member #394 Joined: May 19, 2008	If it doesn't have 'end' at the end, or contains illegal syntax, it won't let you save. Otherwise, you're good.
	Spoiler: click to toggle "I look at the eyes, straight to the soul doorway" Redsrock Dammit, Vanir...... I had an awesome daydream of me and Anne Hathaway on a private island. And then in the daydream you came in and murdered her, then asking for my hand in marriage.


aceball69	Sep 3 2009, 12:03 PM Post #15
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	Whadaya think? Code: `Begin My_test_script Short Controlvar If (OnActivate == 1) If (controlvar == 0) If (Strength >= 100) MessageBox "What a powerful being you are. Take this weapon!" Player-> AddItem "katana_goldbrand_unique", 1 set controlvar to 1 elseif (controlvar ==1) Activate Endif If (Strength < 100) MessageBox "You are not worthy. Come back when you are much stronger." Endif Endif Endif End`
	"This might just feed the mother of all our needs" Tri-shards of Weye- My first mod's unoficial WIP thread. check it out! Best Oblivion Mod Ive ever stumbled across- Deadly Reflexes 5 How Cyrodiil SHOULD have been designed- Unique Landscapes


lettuceman44	Sep 3 2009, 03:14 PM Post #16
Emperor Posts: 7,099 Group: Admin Member #5 Joined: December 3, 2007	aceball69 Sep 3 2009, 12:03 PM Whadaya think? Code: Begin My_test_script Short Controlvar if ( MenuMode == 1 ) ; added this so it wont run in menu mode which isn't needed, so it won't slow down the menu in anyway. return endif If (OnActivate == 1) If (controlvar == 0) If (Strength >= 100) MessageBox "What a powerful being you are. Take this weapon!" Player-> AddItem "katana_goldbrand_unique", 1 set controlvar to 1 ElseIf (Strength < 100) ;Added this to go along with the first strength since its the same, seperate if isnt needed MessageBox "You are not worthy. Come back when you are much stronger." endif ElseIf (controlvar == 1 ) ; Changed this so when first if isnt correct, it will automatically move onto this else if. Activate set controlvar to 2 ;Added controlvar to 2 so the script wont be able to run again Endif Endif End My comments are by the ;. Also, what object are you activating? Edited by lettuceman44, Sep 3 2009, 03:15 PM.



vanir90210	Sep 3 2009, 05:03 PM Post #17
Budding Lyricist Posts: 2,792 Group: Member Member #394 Joined: May 19, 2008	Instead of activate, do disable. Otherwise, you get the weapon(if it is a weapon) that is in the world as well as Goldbrand.
	Spoiler: click to toggle "I look at the eyes, straight to the soul doorway" Redsrock Dammit, Vanir...... I had an awesome daydream of me and Anne Hathaway on a private island. And then in the daydream you came in and murdered her, then asking for my hand in marriage.


aceball69	Sep 3 2009, 05:21 PM Post #18
The Ace Posts: 3,316 Group: Member Member #9 Joined: December 3, 2007	i was thinking a chest i guess. thats why i added the "if (controlvar == 1) Activate". But i think you have a better idea to just end it after the player gets the sword cause chests are everywhere. Vanir, sorry im not sure what you mean...? ok lettuce, so you added the menu mode and return so it would stop processing the script every frame? and then you added the set controlvar to 2 because if that wasnt there the player would be able to activate it and get the weapon as many times as they wanted, right?
	"This might just feed the mother of all our needs" Tri-shards of Weye- My first mod's unoficial WIP thread. check it out! Best Oblivion Mod Ive ever stumbled across- Deadly Reflexes 5 How Cyrodiil SHOULD have been designed- Unique Landscapes


vanir90210	Sep 3 2009, 05:28 PM Post #19
Budding Lyricist Posts: 2,792 Group: Member Member #394 Joined: May 19, 2008	Oh, if it's a chest nevermind. I was thinking you'd put a sword in the world with the script attached to it. Then, you'd be getting the sword AND Goldbrand.
	Spoiler: click to toggle "I look at the eyes, straight to the soul doorway" Redsrock Dammit, Vanir...... I had an awesome daydream of me and Anne Hathaway on a private island. And then in the daydream you came in and murdered her, then asking for my hand in marriage.


lettuceman44	Sep 3 2009, 05:44 PM Post #20
Emperor Posts: 7,099 Group: Admin Member #5 Joined: December 3, 2007	vanir90210 Sep 3 2009, 05:28 PM Oh, if it's a chest nevermind. I was thinking you'd put a sword in the world with the script attached to it. Then, you'd be getting the sword AND Goldbrand. What? Activate has to do with what the actual object is. For example, lets have a door. You put a script on the door that does something. So it goes through the scripted thing Activate makes the object do its original thing, which for the door is teleport you inside. Disable has nothing to do with it. edit: Why would you get goldbrand? Edited by lettuceman44, Sep 3 2009, 05:45 PM.



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