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Arilliana, the Heretic
Topic Started: Sep 12 2016, 05:41 PM (224 Views)
Serethil
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Wow, again, the things that happen in others' games! I've never had those mods not work perfectly. I wonder if in Ari's game you've got a conflicting mod maybe? You're using LOOT's latest version, right?

Anyway, very well written! And sad.... As to the change of narrative style - I do that myself, and then have to go back and tweak later. It's easier now that I'm writing in WordPerfect first and then copying into the entry pane, because I tend to catch stuff like that before entering it. (Like the whole section of Anki's last night - I had done it all in first person like I do Siara's, so had to edit it before posting....)
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Holy smokes! That's a lot of dead NPCs, but I know it happens even with the mods. It's happened to me, just not quite on that scale. As I don't play DiD, I reload if any important NPC bites the dust .(usually Adrianne the smith, and once, one of the Redguards by the gate)

Great read neil, and I don't worry 'bout the change from 1st to 3rd person. :)
Edited by Andra Hawksdaughter, Sep 19 2016, 06:56 PM.
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That's not a vampire attack....its a massacre
One master vamp is enough......but two
Must be that immersive vampires mod eh!

Odd fact I've noticed....unsubstantiated but witnessed!
At low level....vamps kill citizens easily like they kill you.
But at like level 40, the citizens hold their own and a small mob defeats most vamps without casualties.....just as a master vamp can't just swat you dead either.

Now someone is going to say something like....your level doesn't affect vampires killing ability upon other npcs....but I'm just saying what I regularly see. The last attack was in Falkreath...as Adella (level 43) came out of the inn to find two guards and a civilian mob ripping a master vamp down. Admittedly Adella paralysed the two Death hounds to help, but that was all! And the mob quickly dispatched the vamp on their own!

Does anyone else notice this?

Sere....I write on iPad in a word processor app called "Textillus" then save to icloud in RTF and stick a copy on the clip board to paste into Haven. :)
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I've gotten two Master Vamps before, and I don't have any kind of Vamp mod. It's just the game doing it's thing, is the only thing I can figure.
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Yeah, things are different when you use a phone to access the net - I don't and wouldn't, so good computer programs are my stable of "use this for that". I must say however, that WordPerfect is so old I'm seriously amazed it still works - with win 10 even, and no compat settings.

Unreal. This is WP 9.... um.... I think the copyright date is 2000.... maybe? Antique. BEYOND petrified. But hey, if it ain't broke....
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A little pressed for time just now, but a quick response is in order, eh? :)

I often at higher levels get as many as 3 master vampires in an attack, wiht attendant thralls and death hounds, but with "When Vampires Attack" it hasn't been a major problem.

Anyway, I have no vampire mods that alter them in any way that I know of immersive or otherwise, and Arilliana was about level 30 when this attack took place. Also, I am using the latest version of LOOT, but when I went into MCM and looked at "Run for your Lives" and "When Vampires Attack" it tells me both mods are "stopped" and there is no option in the menu to start them. I'm thinking that I may just override LOOT and move both mods nearer the end of my load order and see what happens.

My theory is that if I move them to point where they load after whatever mod is in conflict, they should start working and the culprit might stop. That would tell me which one is doing it.

In Whiterun, I tidy up after battles by dropping the bodies over the little bridge by the gates... It took a while, but I had done that this time as well. Here's a visual for you (I don't think any forbidden body parts are visible):

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Hmmmm.

Both mods show as "Stopped" in my MCM too. But I don't have any issues with them doing what they're supposed to do. Maybe PM Arth and see what he says?
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Sep 19 2016, 09:50 PM
Hmmmm.

Both mods show as "Stopped" in my MCM too. But I don't have any issues with them doing what they're supposed to do. Maybe PM Arth and see what he says?
Or the mods/scripts are started only after an attack begins... maybe tied to some variable or condition that is changed by the game itself when attacks start.
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Ah. That's a possibility. You want to ask Arth, or want me to do it? I'm fine with it.... we get along.
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Serethil
Sep 19 2016, 09:50 PM
Hmmmm.

Both mods show as "Stopped" in my MCM too. But I don't have any issues with them doing what they're supposed to do. Maybe PM Arth and see what he says?


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Sep 19 2016, 09:54 PM
Serethil
Sep 19 2016, 09:50 PM
Hmmmm.

Both mods show as "Stopped" in my MCM too. But I don't have any issues with them doing what they're supposed to do. Maybe PM Arth and see what he says?
Or the mods/scripts are started only after an attack begins... maybe tied to some variable or condition that is changed by the game itself when attacks start.


Mine's always been that way... I thought about stopping in the middle of a vamp attack and look, but I always for get...
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Well - I can't stop in the middle of a vamp attack - because I don't HAVE vamp attacks.
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Sep 19 2016, 09:59 PM
Ah. That's a possibility. You want to ask Arth, or want me to do it? I'm fine with it.... we get along.
If you know the individual, you may have better results asking than I would. Besides under my current circumstances, I don't often check email. I think I currently have some 2000 unread emails...

As as side note, if you have dragons and "Run for your lives" it probably works the same way.
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Well, I don't have dragons on anyone currently, because I'm just not into going there. I still have Run for your lives active.... but it has no.... reason to work!

I'll pm Arth, and see what he says.

As far as 2k unread emails.... hon, just delete the bastards. If someone needs to get hold of you, well.... they already know email is NOT how....
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I'm with Sere...I totally forget my Yahoo account for months... and then delete everything... sending out email reminders to friends...and what little family still speaks to me.. to use my Gmail account... and even then... I don't check to often.
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Sep 19 2016, 10:17 PM
Well, I don't have dragons on anyone currently, because I'm just not into going there. I still have Run for your lives active.... but it has no.... reason to work!

I'll pm Arth, and see what he says.

As far as 2k unread emails.... hon, just delete the bastards. If someone needs to get hold of you, well.... they already know email is NOT how....
At some point I guess I moved into the digital world. Over half of my bills are paid online or I'm "paperless" and my receipts and statements show up in email. Then there are occasional emails from the NRA or the EEF asking for action by contacting senators and such, and then my Senators and such contact me by email, so I can't really just delete everything. It's unfortunately necessary that I at least glance at everything not in my spam folder.
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I still just do not get this...

You guys are getting WHAT.....THREE master vamps....I have never seen even two in one city or village attack.....upto levels in the high fifties even.
Most vamp attacks fade off to being very rare after level forty or so.

In the wilds a master may have additional lower rank vamps with him.
And I have met a Nightlord in the wilds too....
But in cities I've not (yet) seen two master vamps together
You can't get more vanilla than my xbox plus dlcs
You must be suffering mod influences surely!



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I pay all our bills online. Through the CU's billpay setup. I don't bother to download the emails which tell me they paid them - I read them, then delete. It's all maintained online on the CU's website - if there's ever a problem, I'll be able to handle it.

I "moved into the digital world" 20 years ago. I've never had a problem.
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Sep 19 2016, 10:40 PM
I still just do not get this...

You guys are getting WHAT.....THREE master vamps....I have never seen even two in one city or village attack.....upto levels in the high fifties even.
Most vamp attacks fade off to being very rare after level forty or so.

In the wilds a master may have additional lower rank vamps with him.
And I have met a Nightlord in the wilds too....
But in cities I've not (yet) seen two master vamps together
You can't get more vanilla than my xbox plus dlcs
You must be suffering mod influences surely!



For me, it's been that way with or without mods since I installed Dawnguard... While it's true I don't play without mods these days, back when I spent my first thousand hours or so with my only mods being graphics oriented or body like UNP.
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That's just weird Neil.
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Well, I've been waiting for the wifey to wake up so I can fix dinner, and she's finally moving. Gotsa go...
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