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Topic Started: Oct 29 2016, 09:23 AM (5,060 Views)
Serethil
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I.... hmm. I guess I got totally turned off the first time I saw Aela. I suppose.... the devs thought the Nord culture required that sort of thing. But I see it as far more a Forsworn thing.

Then again, I tend to make girls who are part of ME - and that ME wouldn't ever go that route.
Edited by Serethil, Nov 13 2016, 09:29 PM.
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Ha...my lady is a part of me....the wrong part :lmao:
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Nov 13 2016, 08:30 PM
[Enters caveat: if you never undress, you never see the underwear. If you RP, you can pretend it doesn't exist. I honestly don't get it.... but then the LAST thing I want to see in my game is undressed guys....]
For me it's this weird, nagging feeling in the back of my mind that includes things like dirt and the mitten feet of vanilla Skyrim. I know things are messed up, even if I'm not constantly seeing them, and that's enough to bother me.

Then there's the occasional reminder that those things exist, whether it's accidentally looting armor or running into an NPC without clothes, or quests that remove everything in your inventory.

But then this is coming from the person who almost killed a guard for not realizing he was in Kynesgrove when he lamented an attack "there."
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I dl'd the Clearspring cottage mod and I really like it. Even being off the beaten path is a plus!

Here are a couple pics one of the exterior and one of the interior (it's the base first house of a HF home with slight interior changes). There's an entire basement that is very well done with bookcases, wardrobes, enchanter & alchemy stations. I couldn't get good angles on the basement. If I were any good at fraps that would be better! There are pics on Nexus by the mod author if you'd like to see more.

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The whole place has a peaceful cozy feel to it!

:grats:
Edited by Brambleberry, Nov 14 2016, 07:58 PM.
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Well, monkey - all of us have our weirdities after all!

Bram, I thought that place was really cute - it's just a bit too small for what I like.
Edited by Serethil, Nov 14 2016, 07:58 PM.
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Ah, poop, that's perfect, Bram.
Perfect middle ground between the basic and fully-built Hearthfire homes, neither of which I really liked all that much. I lol'd about the insistence of "lore-friendly", though.
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I never undress male characters.

And I'd rather not have penises on corpses. That bothers me more than the diapers.
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Nov 13 2016, 10:35 PM
*squeals*
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I dunno about that theory of "if you RP you never see them". i see my characters undressed all the time as a RESULT of roleplay. When my character goes swimming, it's skinny dipping, when they go to bed, they undress and lay down on the bed. Why would anybody want to sleep in full plate armor? Let alone swim?!?

I remember once having a conversation with a guy who objected to nude mods because he didn't want to see that on dead guys after he looted them. I asked him just what he expected to see after he stole their pants, anyway? The solution is, don't steal their pants...

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I stole his pants, not his loincloth.
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I do get that nude mods are a preference thing, I just wish they *all* had underwear options. Some don't.

And it's why I don't use body mods.
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<snerk> In England...your loincloth IS your pants. And your pants are our trousers.....admittedly its a bit crazy because our pants are really also called underpants...which make more sense if trousers ARE pants. (From the French for pantalon of course).

So...question is are ladies Knickers....panties? In which case what are American ladies trousers?
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Nudity....yes....it should be possible to remove undergarments to reveal everything....at player discretion...because that is realistic....

If I pull my trousers down ( no don't try to imagine it...its not pretty) I don't then find my underpants mysteriously stuck to my butt....well not normally anyway!

I don't understand the fear...almost paranoia of....seeing a naked body....like we all have mirrors yeah!

So as Neil says if you don't wanna see a naked dead body...don't strip it!

But by the same token....all nude mods really should incorporate removable underwear...at player choice..imo
Edited by Rick, Nov 15 2016, 11:45 AM.
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During (and prior to) the middle ages, men didn't wear loincloths generally. they wore braies or breeks which doubled as underwear... except.... they often wore only the braies when working, so if you were to steal their "pants", you WERE stealing their loincloth or underwear...

Of course there is the age-old question of what a Scot wears under his kilt, eh? ;)
Edited by neildarkstar, Nov 15 2016, 11:50 AM.
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Yeah, aside from the tricky game of giving a real-life time period to Tamriel (best one can do is say "pre-industrial" and even that's not entirely accurate), I think I've already talked about getting a face-full of "nope" here. I like to think of it as leaving the useless pants that most likely have a mess in them anyways, considering that chest and legs are a single slot in Skyrim. That's if one chooses to take the armor. Another thing I found weird was that if you take the armor, you also take everything underneath whether it's useful or not(again, gross).

Either way, I rather not see dongers and vajiggers if I can help it. Can I work it in through RP? Sure. Do I actually want to see it on my screen? Yeah, no thanks. Would it be cool to have a removable underwear option? Yeah, totally. I'd even risk seeing crude imitations of nether regions to start a collection. :V
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I agree that removable underwear of some sort should definitely be optional according to taste. If it were, it just wouldn't be that big of a deal.
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I witnessed this for the first time after installing UNP the other day. Think I'd rather have loincloths, to be honest.
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I kinda find it a little weird that all of my males have the loincloth, while the females are nude... I haven't downloaded a male body mod yet since my last major FUBAR that wiped out my mods. Personally, I'm not upset by nudity in either sex, bodies just are what they are. Kinda like a book is still the same hardcopy or not. I only care for what's in it.
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